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  1. Comments from the super coach! Sometimes i feel like these forums are like american politics. If you disagree with me you must be a complete and utter idiot who I will immediatly insult and wish bodily harm to. Sigh.
  2. Ok so - you dont have a max level character.... do you even understand how the game works? do you understand what a L60, bis character does with their time? Sorry dude, i dont wanna rag on you - you appear more capable of putting a sentence together than the average forum poster but come on. PvP isnt supposed to be about R14 gear, those are rewards for the few who can manage to achieve them. If you wanna argue that the entire Vanilla PvP system is broken (which it is), and that its rediculous that it takes 13+ weeks of playing 16+ hrs a day to achieve R14 then i'd be right there with you. But to argue that we should destroy one of the pillars of the game to make it easier for 50-100 people to get gear is rediculous. One of the main reasons people go and raid, is to get gear, so they can go into PvP and kill people. We have removed that ability, you can't actually engage in PvP on elysium. You either world PvP jumping ppl who arnt expecting, you join a premade and honor farm empty BG's all day long or you solo queue and get farmed by Premades. (Part of the BG problem is people have given up, those that do solo queue usually just afk when they notice its a premade, if we could fix that then bg's would be better sure) So my understanding of what your saying is this "Theres 50-100 ppl who want to rank and get gear, we should allow them to dominate the PvP scene because they want gear, and we shouldnt do anything that makes an already overly difficult processes harder." What i see missing from your thought processes is what about the other 200,000 people who might want to occasionally step foot into a BG? What about them? What about the literally thousands of players who just want to go and fight someone of the opposit faction? Should we ignore them? Because so far the project has been and the result has been we went frm 45K ppl online + queue to 10K online.
  3. reagan

    Development Update 08.09.2017

    LOL this argument always makes me laugh. Its a regressive argument, you can throw it out there and i can refute it and you will just throw out another pointless argument. Making the point that any player CAN create a premade does not negate the fact that the current premade behaviour is damaging the project as a whole and 99% of the population would be benefited by them changing. Its kinda like me saying theres a hole in the boat, were sinking - i think we should plug it. You argue back by saying - look, you could just choose another boat. Your making an argument that you THINK defends premades but your missing the very crux of the issue, that the boat is sinking and we should do something to stop it.
  4. Wrong, sorry its not expected that 90% of battlegrounds are vs' a premade. This started to become a problem on retail and they took great steps to stop it (removed the ranking system, arenas, Rated BG's - all of these things were set up to create a situation where the average player can enjoy PvP as it was supposed to be rather than by farming millions of honor for gear). I know this whole thread is going to turn on anyone who disagrees but sorry Phoosy you dont know what your talking about, You dont understand the game and you dont understand the vast majority of the player base. Your to close to the PvP scene and you think that they matter more than they really do. This change does not stop people from being able to rank, it stops them from being able to game the system. Everything in your original post Phoosy talks to fixing the issues that face the 50-100 people activly ranking, it does nothing to address the fact that there are literally hundreds of thousands of players on the server who gave up PvP'ing because of the premades. None of what you have suggested actually improves the server for the vast majority of the player base. I get why it matters to those 50-100 people, I understand why this is so emotional to you all, but I would suggest that you take a step back and realize - a very very small group of people is dominating the entire server's pvp and the rest have given up. The reason we saw a huge population decline back in April/May was because people hated PvP.
  5. reagan

    PVP BG 3 MAN CAP

    Cya - dont let the door hit you on the way out. Ever since Nost launched a small group of PvP players has basically ruined the ability for the vast majority of the player base to pvp and have fun doing it. You argue your entitled to do this, that its "blizz like" blah blah blah. I could explain to you why it isnt, but frankly you dont listen or learn. Leave, quit the server. seriously - 100 people who are the "pvp scene" could all leave and the server would be better for it. Wanna know why? because literally 100,000 people quit this server when they got to L60 and went into a BG and discovered that the experience SUCKED. They wanted to PvP, they wanted to actually enjoy vanilla PvP. They couldnt and left. So flame away, claim its not bliz like, i and any rational member of the playing community who understand how this has all gone down really dont give a flying hoot. So cya, i wont miss you. I'll be enjoying PvP for the first time in 3 years.
  6. reagan

    Development Update 08.09.2017

    Nice patch again! Heh - brave decision on premading, will be interesting to see if it brings players back to PvP. I know my friends and I all quit because we couldnt PvP, it was worthless to try. Expecting to see 20-30 people viciously attack the project over this change. Mind you, if you stop for a second it doesnt stop you from pvping, or from ranking it just makes it harder for you to game the system and honor farm empty BG's. You argue its not blizz like change, i argue the whole way the player base plays isnt bliz like. Speed running BWL (an instance that took 4-6 hours for guilds on retail) in 23 minutes isnt bliz like. Killing bosses in <30 seconds isnt bliz like. Farming 2-6 Million honor isnt bliz like. Nothing will ever be "Bliz like" because of the player knowledge of whats coming, and of how best to game the system. Enjoy the damn game and stop bitching at a group that does this for free. Want full R14 gear? compile your own server and give it to yourself. Want to play the game and actually PvP? then stop premading and have some fun for a change.
  7. Premaders are so full of themselves - im already wearing my big boy pants so flame away all you like. Facts: 1) Premading did happen on Retail Vanilla, it was usually for 4-6 hours a day and as a pug you came across a premade less than 10% of the time. 2) When premading started to get really serious, and people understood the ranking brackets and started to push the boundaries blizzard blew up the entire system and created buying items with honor - during vanilla. 3) It never got even 1/4 as bad on retail as its been on Nost/Anathema/Elysium. This is a failure of the leadership of the project to correctly address this issue from launch. They are too afraid of 50-100 people who actively Rank to realize the 100,000 other players have given up on PvP (a key tenant of the game) and ultimately get bored and quit. 4) Premading as it currently stands on Elysium does not require any skill, it doesnt even require you to be friends with anyone and it certainly hasnt created a vibrant close nit community. Its created a group of people who follow instructions to sit at certain honor caps and rank. Sorry Premaders but your not the best, most skilled PvP'ers on the server - those people either quit or gave up because its no fun afk'ing to farm honor. When you DO come across another premade you wintrade while trying your hardest not to look like your wintrading instead of engaging that Premade and having fun fighting each other. 5) The same small group of people who control the PvP ranking are also hyper active on the forums and will flame anyone who threatens to disrupt their syndicate. The sad thing is, they arnt having fun, they arnt enjoying the game and a huge % of them burn out and quit. You defend something you dont even like doing all because you want the epics that come along with ranking. But what are you going to do with those epics? your not going to enjoy PvP with them..... If you cant accept that the premades are fundamentally hurting the project then you need to step back a bit. Ask why are these posts made so frequently by people who just want to PvP for the fun of PvP? This isnt about me not being good enough to get into a premade, or me needing to get a life and make friends. This is about the fact that a small group of people, less than 0.1% of the population is engaging in a behavior that is fundamentally weakening the entire community. Its not against the ToU, i dont have a solution for the problem but it is a problem and to pretend it isn't is ridiculous.
  8. reagan

    Development Update 30.08.2017

    Sorry hunters - but your DPS was pretty bad in vanilla, much like Boomkins, Feral druids, Shadow Priests, Enh Shamans, Ret Paladins. You bring utility (Tranq shot) and you buff your group but you wont do as much damage as the core DPS classes. Its tough because in many ways it would have been nice if the classes were balanced more but it is what it is. Dont roll a hunter if you want to do amazing damage. Roll a Rogue/DPS warrior/Warlock or mage. If your pets should keep buffs, this isnt the place to complain about it. Make sure its correctly documented on the git-hub with as much relevant evidence as possible and then find an open source dev to fix it for you. Love seeing the weekly Patch notes! Keep it up Elysium!
  9. i literally lolled at this post.
  10. reagan

    Server Population Cap

    you guys make me laugh - the servers have a population similar to most retail servers if not higher. if you want to play with 9K ppl go level on elysium. if you want to raid naxx, play on Anathema. continuing to beat the drums of "dead server" only creates a self fulfilling prophecy as more players believe it. Repeating something over and over makes it true to you, it doesn't make it actually true. Anathema is not a dead server, it peaks at 2K which is what retail server cap was on launch. What I honestly think we are seeing here are a small group of people who are deliberately attacking the server in an attempt to force a merge (Like we saw with ZK). These people are doing it because they will personally gain from it, maybe they have a lot of gold/consumables they want to sell on Ely. So if you really do want to attract players to anathema to increase the population, stop saying its a dead server because its having the exact opposite effect. There is no possible way to merge the servers in the next year, so stop asking for it - level on Elysium if u really dont want to play on anathema anymore. If you are trying to sabotage the project/server because you will personally gain from a merge - go f*#k yourself.
  11. Reclearing a raid ID is by definition bug abuse, and its of a significant level. Your not stupid, you knew raid ID's resetting was a bug and you chose to abuse it. Its pretty clear in the ToU. Bug abuse is bannable. You shouldnt NEED an announcement to know not to abuse bugs.
  12. You do realize this is the epitome of racism... you dont think your racist but you'll propose your racist views as being normal. Take your racist crap and f*3K right off ok? I suppose black people deserve a ghetto as well? And red? and women should be in the kitchen making you dinner? When good people allow shit like this to be said and say nothing we normalize your view point. Your viewpoint is wrong, its racist and you need to understand that. By the very fact that you call them asians is racist, you just lumped multiple unique cultures into one broad bucket and said get rid of them. Welcome to Nazi germany buddy. Now go back to what ever primordial ooze you crawled out.
  13. Theres a world of difference between abusing the game design and abusing a bug. Do you really think blizzard intended for the FR buff from UBRS to be used for progressing through MC and BWL and making encounters requiring FR a joke? There are countless examples of game design being exploited (Engineering bombs on vicidus, stacking DM/DMF/Felwood buffs to do crazy damage, Ubrs FR buff, Engineering Chickens prior to combat just to name a few) that dramatically change the game experience. While MC'ing people out of a portal shouldnt be allowed, its certainly not an exploit. Its not a GM related issue IMO, its a Dev problem. The Dev's should fix the game so it doesnt happen. The more you push the GM's to moderate the game the more likley they are to moderate something you dont want them to.
  14. reagan

    Upcoming PvP Update

    This whole "Blizzlike" argument makes me laugh so hard. Wow is a MMORPG - it evolves and it changes and can never truly be "blizzlike" ever again. 12 years of knowledge and player development mean people play very different today than they did 12 years ago. Blizzlike 12 years ago - was there were very few/no premades who pvp'ed 20 hours a day 7 days a week, because the R12-14 gear sucked. Few people seriously tried to rank because it was a vanity thing, not a highway to BiS PvE gear. Now, people know the 1.11 gear is coming, they change their playing behavior and suddenly the game is not "Blizz like". Its a matter of perspective. You can't make a "blizzlike" server because everyone knows all of the changes that are coming to content/gear. That in-turn changes the way players behave and the outcome is a non blizzlike game. You can argue all you like, but one thing is true - the PvP change IS bliz like, you couldnt use lifetime rank to purchase R12-14 gear, it wasnt until patch 1.6 that you could even wear the gear if you didnt have the rank. Respec cost is so so, personally i dont care. It certainly does not make the server a "fun server" lol thats the most rediculous statement ive read all year. Changing the respec cost suddenly makes it a fun server, lolololol no.
  15. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    I'm actually quite intrigued by your debating style QQsya, your pulling a Trump. The whole crux of the debate was around how premades were ruining the experience and in so doing hurting the population of the server. You stated what appeared to be few facts about the argument about what the rest of us were wanting that and then began arguing back about those points. The problem is your stated reasoning behind our position is blatantly wrong (we want to make it easier for the casuals to get gear). You took over the conversation and drove it down a road going nowhere, because your arguing back against a position that basically noboy holds. We don't want to make it easier for casuals to get gear, we want to make it so the vast majority of the server can enjoy PvP. You either missed the entire point of the conversation, or your cleverly trying to divert the conversation away from an inalienable truth. Premades destroy the PvP scene, they drive everyone except for themselves away and then argue 'we are the scene". I don't care who gets what gear. I don't care how easy or hard it is, I care that the game is being completely bastardized into something it never was on retail, and never should have been on a private server. Premades are not "playing the game like it should be" playing the game like it should would be premades vs premade, hour long WSG games where the best team wins. Honor farming is not, and never was "playing the game" You can continue to debate the non topics, but the rest of us will continue to discuss honest ways to create an environment where the majority can enjoy PvP. I don't mean get welfare PvP gear, I mean where we can do 5-10 bg's a week and actually enjoy it.
  16. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    Im not convinced that lowering respec costs (although i think its a good idea) will impact PvP very much... Do we really think people will queue for BG"s more if they are the right spec, but still being face rolled by premades honor farming? The way I see it the staff need to do 2 things. Break up the premades and encourage people to come back to pvp who have given up. Does lowering respec costs achieve either of those? maybe it entices people back but i'm not sure id stand behind that in a shitstorm.... Disabling group queuing alone will not prevent premades btw - there are several mods that coordinate queuing, so they can disable the option to group queue but the syndicates will still just run the mod and presto 9/10 of you are in the same BG. Ending premades needs to be about ending the need to premade, otherwise they will just find workarounds. Unfortunately whether we want to admit it or not the only way to do that is to fundamentally change the rank structure. Either by making it MUCH easier to rank thereby lowering the amount of honor they had to farm, or do as blizzard did and blow it up entirely. I know i dont, and i suspect most others dont really care who/how many people get R14 gear, they care about themselves getting it (if they are a premader) or enjoying the game (the rest of us). Can we not just give all the premades R14 gear and then get down to actually playing the game? can we not just change the system so that anyone who really wants the gear, can obtain it without ruining the game for every else? I dont think EVERYONE should get the gear, thats silly, but we need a solution that doesnt involve 50 people farming the rest of us for honor all day, every day forever.
  17. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    The argument for blizzlike or not blizzlike is pointless. Its not 2006, people aren't playing on Pentium 1's on shit internet connections. There's databases that everyone uses to know exactly what items to get, where to farm gold/items. The player knowledge is far greater and the player behavior is not the same. To argue for blizzlike is in-itself a regressive argument because players will never behave in a "blizzlike" manner so the game will not be the same, it cant be. The crux of this issue is that perfect blizzlike emulation yields a result that some of the times is a pretty terrible game. PvP is an example. Not all changes blizz made were bad. Arenas were amazing, using PvP rating to award gear was a VERY good solution to PvP gear. It rewarded skill, not just time sinking. How good would it be if the development team was able to add arenas in, and if you were able to earn R12-14 gear though an arena rating? I don't believe this is possible because i don't believe the arena's are in the client. But you get my point. Some of the changes improved game play (heroic 5 mans, duel specs - personally i think these were good but i see the argument against them, better holiday events) many of the changes didn't and i think the fear of changing away from "Blizzlike" is that the VAST majority of blizzards changes made the game worse, welfare epics *cry*. Flaming change or the sake of flaming change doesn't help the server be better, arguing passionately about a change that you honestly believe will make the game better or worse though - that's a good thing. What are some ways we could bring people back to PvP? If someone's started raid logging are they gone, or can we get them back into the game and enjoying it?
  18. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    Theres no reason to resort to insulting fellow members of the community... Ive come to the conclusion you are a troll Nognomo, you're just insulting and raging without actually engaging in the discussion. its not that I dont agree with your point of view, its that your point of view is troll. The BG scene on Anathema and Elysium is not Bliz like, no way shape or form is it bliz like. When people started acting like this bliz changed the whole structure. The problem is 12 years of experience has changed dramatically play styles and its interacting with a system that never worked in the first place. PvP needs to be overhauled to provide a reason for anyone with less than 60 hours a week x 3 months to sink into it to participate. As i said earlier, PvP is a pillar of end-game content. Without PvP players raid log, and the server population slowly dwindles as people get bored/quit. To maintain a healthy community as a whole we need people to be able to enjoy PvP. That doesnt mean 50 people get to farm R14 gear ad infinitum.
  19. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    Casuals? Your calling people who play the game 40+ hours a week casual? Lol dude, you need to take a step back and realize that your little club of 50 people is ruining the game for the 10's of thousands of us who play. its not because you are better players, its not because your more skilled (some of you are, and most of you are more skilled than the vast majority of players) its because you have the time and the inclination to create a mafia to control PvP. Your not R14 because your the best PvP'er on the server, your R14 because you had 60+ hours a week for 4 months to sit in an empty BG farming honor.
  20. reagan

    PvP Scene Community Feedback

    There was never meant to be a delineation between PvP and PvE in vanilla wow. You raided to get gear to go into battlegrounds and stomp face. The reason why people drooled over T2 was because it was amazing compared to anything else available. The reason why people feared T2.5 and the small amount of T3 u saw was because you knew those players would deal huge damage. You were part of a single community some of the time you PvE’ed sometimes PvP – this artificial separation into people who PvP 60 hours a week and those who PvE is what’s causing players to burn out/get bored and quit. Enjoy about the current PvP scene? Honestly, nothing. It’s a grind that does not include actually playing the game. Its 100% about grinding out ridiculous amounts of honor and controlling BRM1 in often what skirts standover/extortion and degenerates into win trading/account sharing and insane expectations on the number of hours to obtain R14. A very high % of people either never achieve the rank they desired, or quit the game once they do. Whats wrong with PvP? In a nut shell, nobody has any fun while doing battlegrounds. You simply can’t queue up and actually PvP, its either be in a premade and stomp empty BG’s or solo queue into a bg where you get stomped and everyone else afk’s. Blizzard introduced battlegrounds not as a way to obtain gear, but as a second pillar to end game activity. Towards the end of Vanilla, around the time of the first blizcon, blizzard themselves realized rank’s were a bad idea, it was creating very negative behavior (similar but to a far less extreme than we see) and did away with them. That was when most of the serious rankers earned 300K honor a week – were dealing with 3-5 Million. What we see on our servers is not blizz like, it never was – the moment players even started acting 1/5 as bad as what we see blizzard blew up the ranking system and started again. Fundamentally the issue is around the competition for rank, the number of people who want to obtain R14 far exceeds the number who can. It creates an insane level of competition that goes far beyond anything blizzard saw, or had in mind when they created the system. The number of hours required to hit R14, and the behavior you need to engage in to do it is neither healthy for the player nor for the server in general. What would I like to see? Some way for the vast majority of the player population to be able to queue for a BG and actually get to participate in PvP. Pug vs Pug only battle grounds. Make it easier for people to get R14 – not “easy”, Easier. It shouldn’t take someone being part of a syndicate that exerts control over the entire PvP scene to reach their goals. It shouldn’t take 13+ weeks of pvping 60 hours a week to earn R14. 1) Remove the ability to Group Queue 2) Remove the ability to see other players honor (or even potentially your own) 3) Make it easier to achieve R14 - bigger Brackets, less honor required for each rank. (see 4 though for preferred solution) 4) Blow up ranks - move to the late vanilla system of purchase items through honor/battle ground marks - still vanilla like for the haters, this is how blizz fixed this issue. 5) Remove the R12+ gear entirely. PvP was never supposed to be the way to earn best in slot gear, pvp gear was an afterthought until TBC. (gonna get flamed hard i know - but im throwing out anything i can think of that might encourage people to actually pvp, not rank, actually fight and enjoy the game) TL:DR – if we do not provide a way for the 99% of the population who want to actually PvP to PvP they will quit and the server will wither away and die. People don’t want to raid log, they want to play the character they have spent time gearing out – but currently there is no possible way to pvp and enjoy it. Do not under and circumstances upgrade the PvP gear earlier – it will simply make the problem worse. Do enact the fix to rank gear that was posted on Github this week (You need the rank to buy the gear) this is how it was in Vanilla, this is how it should be here.
  21. reagan

    Missing quests?

    This is a progressive server project. Each server is on a different "patch" meaning different content is enabled. So yes, many of the quests that were implemented in later patches are not available on the servers. Also, all of the database websites that you might be looking at will list something as being implemented in 1.11 (or occasionally 1.12) that simply means the database was first created while 1.11 was the live patch, To my knowledge there are no databases that have accurate information for pre 1.11. So you can't rely on any of the DB's to know exactly when a quest was implemented, you can look @ the comments on the bottom of a page in the database because those were merged from multiple sources that were active during early wow (thott/alakazam), sometimes they give a hint to the timeframe.
  22. reagan

    Anathema core has issues

    knowing about a bug, and knowing exactly what causes it, and what the correct behavior should be (with sited evidence as back up, not just "i member back when i was a lad i would do this and im SURE it acted this way) are two very different things. As has been pointed out, the largest hurdle the dev team seems to face is being able to prove exactly how something should be working, not fixing it once that has been determined. So rather than complaining, try going to the existing bug reports and add more evidence to back up how it should be working. The more work we do for the dev's the more they will be able to fix for us.
  23. Kek, i get the feeling Pottu got back about an hour ago. What do YOU think Pottu's been doing these past weeks?
  24. All of you flaming the OP are completely missing the point. Due to the evolution of players over the past 12 years, and the size of the population of these servers there are always multiple premades running. The OP is correct, PvP Sucks on Anathema, and its going to suck on Elysium if the Dev's dont do something about it that is "not bliz like". Being IN a premade sucks (because its boring, honor farming without any real skill or actual PvP - sorry to offend all you rankers but you need to face facts, sure your good players but what your doing doesnt require skill it requires time) Solo queuing Sucks (because you get farmed by a premade 80% of the time). This isnt about whether someone is to shit to get into a premade, its about the fact that PvP is a key part of the game, by having no realistic chance of having fun PvP - games where the teams actually try, where they arnt just there to farm honor, we are losing half of the game that we all have come back to play. @Dev's - I dont know what the solution is, but you have not created a vanilla like PvP experience, the larger population cap, and the evolution of honor farming has made battle grounds a horrible experience for 95% of the player base..
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