Vollfos

easy solution : dont play on elysium Samadhi. im sure noone needs you either :) ( like the chinese)

im happy to be on alliance side, because there are no bracket spot sellings atm :)

you guys all forget the point that everything which isnt out yet and you want to have it now , will lower the durability of the server in future. this project will die faster with every patch which get faster then the timeline, because when people has that gear/raids what so ever, they are faster again bored.... you guys have to think in years... not in the now time of this evening

haha , no not even did 1 duell since i played on that server . and tbh i never bought the rank 10 gear, you know why ? before i even was rank 10 i already had better gear from raids/dungeons,, and cant purchase it anymore because im deranked since weeks ;) . its not my mouth about im the greatest, and it doesnt matter because it makes no sense, i never said that the rank 10 gear is a good set , its just that i say there is no need for having the better set. and there is no need for because noone has it. if noone has the better gear there is no need for. i was back in the days rank 13 aswell with my paladin heal(2006) , and even there i never used the full pvp set ( not even back in the days you used that gear if you had the posibility to have t2/bwl gear.

better option is to just raid , get gear and then play pvp for fun. not for a blue set which gets even now punished from better gear in a raid ;)

you forgot one essential point: the playerbase is to 95% the same since month. barely new players are coming and even more leave the project. why ? if you hit the rank you wanted , and cleared the content you wanted, many people make an alt. or raidlog. playing other games or just do in their free time something else. i dont know how horde side looks atm but , pretty much 50% of all 60 on alliance sides are raid characters. for most of them there is no reason to farm that blue set even if the update is there ! i even know people who has 12/13/14 and now made a alt and premading with them. means the same people which made the grind, do it again because they like the system. eah the system is crap and yeah i stoped with 12 because i got my items i wanted, and stopped because its not easy to manage a premade group with alot of work and a normal reallife aswell.... my sleep scedule was pretty much fucked. and atm i dont have even time for more thn 10 hours a week for elysium. which is ok , its a hobby. since beginning of the server , the alliance side had less then 50% pvper then horde ( mostly everyone who liked pvp were going undead horde) means alliance has less people and from that less people even most of them are not intrested in pvp ... even with the new set, it will be a hype of perhaps 4 weeks , ( then most of the people who wanted the rank 10 set ) got it ( because if you are ambitioned to get a gear peace you work alot of time for it). and even if you set this update now , its stupid to compete against bwl geared people with the updated set :D and as i said i made premade which is not that easy, but we werent hardcore , because we didnt spent 18 hours on saturday sunday to reach the brackets. but the effort i did was enough to get 12 which wouldnt be possible on alliance side without a premade,...and on alliance side are the brackets atm just half the honor then 2 month ago and just 1/3 of the honor you had to reach at the beginning of the server ( you had to reach 1.5 million+ at alliance side .. 2 month ago about 800-1000k and now its just 500 k at most weeks) yeah the system is shit, but even the updated version is not as good then t2 ...and i saw alot of t2 people the last 2 weeks in bg´s in pug games ( i retired from the system and just play for fun )

i dont care about raid loot. im raiding since 5 month now and passed most of the bis items just because to make others happy ;) for me you are right getting a boss killed in best possible performance or with hard circumstances is enough for me. and duelling me in a 1v1 ? whats that shit ? XD im against updating the gear before its current patch, but i mean elysium already stated that it gets updates earlier (2 weeks after opening aq ) so there is no cry about more. and btw with zg ( in octobre) even the the 1.10 gear will be outdated for many classes like i said , i leaded my own premade even with no experiance in bg leading and proper tactics or flasks like others. and we did well , its nothing about gear. its all about who has the better tactic setup and coordination. and against randoms its just stack as much high ranked players ( which ends in more afk pugs) for faster games

alliance has instant queues, perhaps you doing it wrong. your rank should be reward enough. and been less then rank 11 .. there is no need to reward anything, you can easy get rank 11 with been hafl afk , its just been a thing of time. and you wrote its easy to get t1 , so why getting blue gear for pvp ? like i said you dont need that blue gear, to be good.

then say me which reason it should have to update then the gear ? if you say its garbage even the updated one, then there is no reason for it.

to which patch you wrote that back in the days ? because as you should know av got 2 times reworked in vanilla, and some things in your blog ,which wasnt like the early state and we have on elysium the "final" 1.10 version.

i have 8/8 bwl , i have rank 12 , and i work 45-50 hours a week. its just all organisation! i made my own premade with rank 9. and i never used one piece of the blue pvp gear, and why ? mc gear was easier and better... its 2017 everybody could know before he starts pvping that the set is not as good then epics from mc/ bwl . i dont get it. on the other hand there is no point ! for that update ! and why ? because the blue pvp 1.10 gear is for alot of classes/speccs better then t1 , which should never be the case at this state of the server timeline. and if you really want to play pvp you dont need even the shit blue pvp gear. just because its all about teamwork/tactic not gear in bg´s , in open pvp it is , but then you have to deal with it. and saying that the pvp player comunity needs that set for more pvp is stupid , 90% of the player would take it for pve and would just play pvp for the set to get pve advantages. that is not the case why it should get updated! they could implement that you can use the pvp set only in battlegrounds, or either dont use the blue set in dungeons/raids, its easy to implement . and then you would have the same player cry about that they cant use their " PvP gear " for pve. so dont cry and get other gear. and btw, with bwl gear, you dont want the blue pve gear anyway. and i bet the same people who cry now about not having the 1.10 itemset cry to get punched from ashkandi warrior or getting 2 shotted from nefarian geared casters. git gud

namecalling in a forum where about 10% of all players look into. seems a failure, and is pretty much not allowed the way you made it.... the way you make it you should set yourself on the list for namecalling :)

im pissed about that i read half of this threat what a shit wast of time. this is kindergarden. grow up , both sides. and pls dont care about eachother both of you are not worth to talk about. give me my time back you cucks

but you are one of 8000+ players which plays at a weekend. i leaded 2 month a premade to get my ranks, most of the caster fillups which wanted in for fast ranks (7-10), which were new to pvp just wanted a easy set. cause some pve bis lists said its their prebis. after realizing that they couldnt get the 1.11 set 80% of the people stopped ( 10% wanted more ranks, 10% for fun) yeah its a timesink grinding and has nothing to do with skill ( arena elo system isnt perfect too, but better in honoring skill/teamplay) but getting rank 10 are about 10 hours a week, for 6 weeks(if you are in a premade its even 4 weeks from 5-10), thats 60 hours for 6 items! doing mc bwl is for most casuals 5 hours a week ( with farming consumablkes/buffs and so on ) and you get only 0.6 items per week ( depends on class/specc and dropluck (got only 4 items in 3 month now for mainspecc) 40 players / 25 items = 0,6

most of the casual players which cry about getting the 1.11 pvp set is , because they want that for pve. im happy that this people dont get it.

that was blizzlike. i was rank 13 in 2006, and and i couldnt purchase the rank 10 blue item set in 1.11. dont cry that Nost wasnt that that blizzlike in that explicit point.

rank 8 warrior , getting a premade spot before rank 10 as warrior , sounds like you didnt invest enough time till now. git good grind your way and find out where the premades are ;)

bullshit, you can reach the blue rank 10 gear in 4-5 weeks easyly with bracket 3 , 40 people getting in bwl 2,5 items per boss + onyxia/ ragnaros its 10 bosses +2,5 items = 25 items per week (ony 5 days i know) you can get with reputation rewards from the pvp faction about 8-9 good items. compared to get 9 items in raids (9 itemsslots devided 0,625 items per week = 14 weeks to get the same amount of items , yeah its easier to get from the time amount, but you have to wait normally way longer to get that itemsbecause you never know when they drop and if you get the .And you can get pretty much for every itemslot another nonset item in mc/ony/wb/bwl as a bis thing. so cry about the blue set just because you are not willing to invest time ( why you dont go for the epic pvp set if you dont like the blue one ) and dont say its too much time, then dont cry about it , thats the pvp system in vanilla and everyone should know it. and even when you now say bla chinese spent more time bla. make your own premade. be better then alliance/horde and grind your way. alot of people are here to have that kind of gamefeeling. and been something like shadow priest. the pvp items were created to make pvp not that people get in pvp their bis items for raiding. this is not retail ( and thats why blizzard implemented resilence in tbc, to have that diffrence between pvp and pve)

who cares about that ? even the the screens has no timeline, you could mixed that screens up and there would be another context. that isnt a proof. and. why someone other then you cares about, making apost about that doesnt help you to clean up your name. and tbh noone can proof if you looted something or not , its all hearsay you tell us and they telled you.

they decreased the droprate on that mobs because 60 were camping 24/7 that place and lvling people couldnt do any quests

who cares ?

its simple math, all about getting most Honor /hour . if you play solo, it doesnt matter if you win or loose all thats count is , get a fast loss or win if its a Weekend bonus. there is no reason for fighting, when you know winning a 40 minute warsong gives less reward then 3 losses in the same time. AB the same , getting 5 capped from a premade is more honor at AB weekend then fithing a a close 1900/2000 game even if you win. so doing nothing is more efficient to get honor -< which means higher standing every week. And AV , is hoplessly :) its more efficient to be the first getting the lotus and afk out then stay 4 hours trying.

i think its all a thing about enough time. on alliance side you need abaout 200k-700k ( depends on which week and what the brackets are are). means: you will stuck really fast at rank 7-9 because at rank 9 comes the point where pugging on 60 is a full time job , and playing at rank 11 and more is a full time premade job from what i heared the queuetimes and the games are way too long that you can reach a higher rank proper at lvl 59. alliance premades play about 40-50 hours a week to reach the brackets, ( they play all day long arathi/warsong and none game lasts longer then 10 minutes normally most are even shorter. i think, it makes no diffrences between have games at 59 or 60 , because when you pug most likely the games are horrbile. if you wanna play for fun , it could be better to play on 59. if you wanna rank, just invest enough time on 60

ask the chinese, on horde side, they are the only one who are able to make pvp groups it seems ( or ask Electraheart ) on the other hand you want a group whos only playing 7 hours , when i count correct. thats not even enough to reach rank 10 ... gl with that. and one point more, the time you wanna play, is the time when the alli premades stopps, which means queuetimes are hoorendus high for premades on horde side :)

1 reason why i like the warrior is the huge amount of posibilities and variations of using abilities depending on the situation. why someone wanna use only 1 button ?? i have a mage aswell and i never plays him if possible because its fucking booring in pve most of the time.