[AddOn] aux and more

[Brutimus 0]

4 hours ago, shirsig said:

 

 

old version

 

 

try using the newest aux version

Hey, thanks for replaying.

I just downloaded the latest version of aux, but it don't seem to have solved the problem.

Right now, after I extracted the files to the addon section it dosen't even show on the addon list (at loginscreen)

And the cooldowns addon don't work either, but now I have a new error: 

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attempt to index global `cooldowns_settings` (a nil value)

File: Interface/Addons/cooldowns/player.lua

Line: 11

Count: 1

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[Tritonis 0]

5 hours ago, shirsig said:

 

 

old version

 

 

try using the newest aux version

 

I downloaded aux from github. Is there a newer version somewhere else?

[shirsig 18]

3 hours ago, Tritonis said:

 

I downloaded aux from github. Is there a newer version somewhere else?

The line your error was on doesn't exist: https://github.com/shirsig/aux-addon/blob/master/util.lua

[shirsig 18]

4 hours ago, Brutimus said:

Hey, thanks for replaying.

I just downloaded the latest version of aux, but it don't seem to have solved the problem.

Right now, after I extracted the files to the addon section it dosen't even show on the addon list (at loginscreen)

And the cooldowns addon don't work either, but now I have a new error: 

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attempt to index global `cooldowns_settings` (a nil value)

File: Interface/Addons/cooldowns/player.lua

Line: 11

Count: 1

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Probably wrong folder name/delete your savedvariables.

[orwell 0]

Shirsig,

You are a good developer, please take players' feedback.

Old Buy Tab: https://postimg.org/image/d0oa8p1pp

New Buy Tab: https://postimg.org/image/cty9xmpnt

Old Sell Tab: https://postimg.org/image/rqyxznmu1

New Sell Tab: https://postimg.org/image/r3hu0tttr

I've made a poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/12192409

If you want to continue with the new looks, for only once, add AH scanning and merchant tooltip to the old GUI (I think it's not so much work) and never update it.

This way, at least half of aux users will happily live after. I would also be so tempted to donate.

Edited January 26, 2017 by orwell

[shirsig 18]

3 hours ago, orwell said:

Shirsig,

You are a good developer, please take players' feedback.

Old Buy Tab: https://postimg.org/image/d0oa8p1pp

New Buy Tab: https://postimg.org/image/cty9xmpnt

Old Sell Tab: https://postimg.org/image/rqyxznmu1

New Sell Tab: https://postimg.org/image/r3hu0tttr

I've made a poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/12192409

If you want to continue with the new looks, for only once, add AH scanning and merchant tooltip to the old GUI (I think it's not so much work) and never update it.

This way, at least half of aux users will happily live after. I would also be so tempted to donate.

I get it, you like the blizzlike look more, you don't have to keep repeating it. As I've said before, besides creating GUIs being a lot of (annoying) work and my not being a designer it's also not as simple as exchanging some colors and textures. The default AH's UI layout is not just an arrangement of frames, it's drawn into the textures and if you change the features a lot you end up with a patchwork like retail auctioneer

at some point I decided to adopt the custom style of retail TSM

instead to allow for a clean layout and I have no intention to change it except maybe if TSM's layout changes for the better I might make the same changes.

[Brutimus 0]

6 hours ago, shirsig said:

Probably wrong folder name/delete your savedvariables.

Alright, thank you very much. Both works perfectly now. 

Only one last question, the vendor price database. Where do I place these files to activate?

[shirsig 18]

 

1 minute ago, Brutimus said:

Alright, thank you very much. Both works perfectly now. 

Only one last question, the vendor price database. Where do I place these files to activate?

You install it as if it were an independent addon. (technically you can delete it after the first login/logout because all it does is write to a savedvariable owned by aux)

Edited January 26, 2017 by shirsig

[orwell 0]

1 hour ago, shirsig said:

instead to allow for a clean layout and I have no intention to change it

Do you mean you are only willing to make it clean while keeping custom frame?

Ok. Keep your custom frame but make a clean version of it only once. Then we won't even ask for updates.

Buy Tab Shows:

https://postimg.org/image/d0oa8p1pp

• Search Line
• Name
• Unit Price
• Stack Size
• Total price

Sell Tab Shows:

https://postimg.org/image/rqyxznmu1

• Usual "Create Auction Window" on the left
• X for your stack of Y and Z per item on the top
• Unit Price
• Stacks
• Max Time Left (This is not necessary. Add Bid Price here instead)
• Total Price

Add to this AH Scanning and tooltip informations. Release it as "Clean Aux". %65 of your addon's users are happy. You're a hero. Take a hot shower and drink your red wine.

Add copper, silver, gold icons instead of "c" "s" "g" text if it's possible. If not, you've already done enough.

Cheerio!

 

Edited January 26, 2017 by orwell

[shirsig 18]

13 minutes ago, orwell said:

Do you mean you are only willing to make it clean while keeping custom frame?

Ok. Keep your custom frame but make a clean version of it only once. Then we won't ask you for even an update.

Buy Tab Shows:

https://postimg.org/image/d0oa8p1pp

• Search Line
• Name
• Unit Price
• Stack Size
• Total price

Sell Tab Shows:

https://postimg.org/image/rqyxznmu1

• Usual "Create Auction Window" on the left
• X for your stack of Y and Z per item on the top
• Unit Price
• Stacks
• Max Time Left (I think this is not needed. Add Bid Price instead)
• Total Price

Add to this AH Scanning and tooltip informations. Release it as "Clean Aux". %65 of your addon's users are happy. You're a hero. Take a hot shower and drink your red wine.

Add copper, silver, gold icons instead of "c" "s" "g" text if it's possible.

Cheerio!

 

I mean it's impossible to make a clean UI with aux' current features and the blizzlike look. For that one would have to create new textures because the blizzard ones have their layout drawn into them, like, sockets where buttons and some other UI elements are in the default UI and fixed size panels and sub panels. And I have no interest in making a custom version with different features.

Edited January 26, 2017 by shirsig

[Tritonis 0]

Re-downloaded from git, getting a different error:

 

http://imgur.com/a/gIxtt

 

Thanks for all the help

[shirsig 18]

24 minutes ago, Tritonis said:

Re-downloaded from git, getting a different error:

 

http://imgur.com/a/gIxtt

 

Thanks for all the help

Delete savedvariables.

[orwell 0]

15 hours ago, shirsig said:

I mean it's impossible to make a clean UI with aux' current features and the blizzlike look. For that one would have to create new textures because the blizzard ones have their layout drawn into them, like, sockets where buttons and some other UI elements are in the default UI and fixed size panels and sub panels. And I have no interest in making a custom version with different features.

It must be possible to keep the current look and make it simpler but you seem to be unwilling to put the effort.

You might not have the time or energy.

Would you be ok if another developer does it?

Edited January 27, 2017 by orwell

[shirsig 18]

13 minutes ago, orwell said:

It must be possible to keep the current look and make it simpler but you seem to be unwilling to put the effort.

You might not have the time or energy.

Would you be ok if another developer does it?

What do you mean by simpler? I've always tried to avoid/remove unnecessary features but I don't think there are any at the moment. I've changed aux after requests many times when I agreed with the reasoning but you have yet to provide a good argument (or any argument at all) as to why any features aren't needed.

[orwell 0]

1 minute ago, shirsig said:

What do you mean by simpler? I've always tried to avoid/remove unnecessary features but I don't think there are any at the moment. I've changed aux after requests many times when I agreed with the reasoning but you have yet to provide a good argument (or any argument at all) as to why any features aren't needed.

Can you NOT understand? Just tell us you don't want to change it man. Don't act like your addon is perfect and all those information are needed.

People like old aux (which shows way less information) better.

Poll here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LegacyAddons/comments/5q22sn/old_aux_vs_new_aux_which_one_do_you_like/

%70 - %30

You can keep thinking that you need all those shitty info on your windows, well we don't think so.

 

Sell tab:

- I've never used %history value or time left  to post auctions. If i wanna see time left (probably only once every 10 years) I can revert to blizzard ui and come back.

- Creating a whole different window to show / select bid price is stupid when you can show and sort bid prices in the same window as buyout prices. (You could do it like this: you click on a price on "buyout row" to pull buyout price for your item, then you sort the window according to bid prices and you click on "bid row" to pull bid price for your item)

- Alternatively fuck selecting bid prices. we are better off not selling our items to fucking noobs without AH addons.

Buy tab:

Who the fuck needs to see "lvl" "Time left" "Seller" AND "Hist value"? You wanna see lvl - you hover over the item. You wanna sort items by level- revert to blizzard ui. And do you need time left? Are you bidding on auctions? no. cos you're not fucking stupid. AND DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO'S SELLING YOUR GODDAMN LEATHERS?

The only reason your addon is being used is that there's no alternative with AH scanning.

Keep doing what you're doing and %30 of the users will be content. Fuck the other %70 right?

 

Are you ok if another developer make simpler version of your addon by giving you credit?

If you are fine, I will ask the developers on reddit.

 

 

[pituitary 0]

May you explain how to use the default skin of your cooldown addon (I think it is the Darion one) on the default action bars?

Thank you very much for your great work!

[shirsig 18]

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

Can you NOT understand? Just tell us you don't want to change it man.

What on earth are you talking about? I'm pretty sure I changed it just a few days ago for a feature you requested and if you can provide a good reason why it should be changed I will keep doing that. Actually most of the features that were added to aux were requested at some point. I couldn't care less about your poll of 30 people which isn't even about features but about the look. Give me a good argument and I'll consider it, I don't care about opinions which aren't backed up by any reasoning.

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

- I've never used %history value or time left  to post auctions. If i wanna see time left (probably only once every 10 years) I can revert to blizzard ui and come back.

 

The reason for time left is so that you don't undercut auctions which are about to expire, especially if they're much lower priced than the rest.

The percentage is an easy way to tell if the current prices are unusually low and you should maybe post your auctions on another day, or if you should buy the lowest ones and repost for a higher price etc.

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

- Creating a whole different window to show / select bid price is stupid when you can show and sort bid prices in the same window as buyout prices. (You could do it like this: you click on a price on "buyout row" to pull buyout price for your item, then you sort the window according to bid prices and you click on "bid row" to pull bid price for your item)

You mean a different table? Your suggestion requires one more click for every auction. Since you always need the same sorting there (bid and buyout unit price) I think it makes more sense to have it statically sorted like that. Additionally you would need some way to distinguish between a "bid-click" and a "buyout-click" which makes it more complicated to use.

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

- Alternatively fuck selecting bid prices. we are better off not selling our items to fucking noobs without AH addons.

The majority of people don't use addons like that. And no, we are not better off not selling items to them ...

And think about it, how much extra time do you spend on the bid price compared to the time you spent farming? Even for a tiny advantage this is absolutely worth it.

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

Who the fuck needs to see "lvl" "Time left" "Seller" AND "Hist value"? You wanna see lvl - you hover over the item. You wanna sort items by level- revert to blizzard ui. And do you need time left? Are you bidding on auctions? no. cos you're not fucking stupid. AND DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO'S SELLING YOUR GODDAMN LEATHERS?

You do realize the AH isn't just used for cheap trade goods? You need to know the seller's name for example to contact him to make a reasonable offer for his auction of edgemaster's that he put up for 100k gold. Bidding also is quite common for rare items. A lot of people don't put a buyout value when they're not sure what the item is worth. I very frequently bid on stuff like twink items. Level sorting is commonly used for buying gear while leveling, obviously, and using the default AH should never be necessary. Not sure what issue you could possibly have with the hist value. It's the most important column imo, telling you when you're making a good deal, when to wait for a later day to stock up on consumables etc.

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

The only reason your addon is being used is that there's no alternative with AH scanning.

That's funny because AH scanning is pretty much the only thing there is an alternative for (auctioneer).

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

Keep doing what you're doing and %30 of the users will be content. Fuck the other %70 right?

You get those numbers from the 30 people poll where you asked about the look only? It's very rare that someone complains about too many features, usually it's the other way around (in fact, I think you might be the first).

52 minutes ago, orwell said:

Are you ok if another developer make simpler version of your addon by giving you credit?

If you are fine, I will ask the developers on reddit.

Sure, but good luck finding someone who wants to make your personal customized GUI.

Edited January 27, 2017 by shirsig

[shirsig 18]

27 minutes ago, pituitary said:

May you explain how to use the default skin of your cooldown addon (I think it is the Darion one) on the default action bars?

Thank you very much for your great work!

There's no simple way to do that.

[Дяпчик 9]

Shirsig, is it possible to make posting item values divided like on screenshot that you posting above?

[shirsig 18]

36 minutes ago, Дяпчик said:

Shirsig, is it possible to make posting item values divided like on screenshot that you posting above?

Why? I like the TSM input style and it's consistent with the listing.

[Дяпчик 9]

42 минуты назад, shirsig сказал:

Why? I like the TSM input style and it's consistent with the listing.

You made a great addon, but for me TSM input style very uncomfortable. Every time you need to keep in mind this numbetrs and it so annoying... In divided  fields you just inpun numbers and don't need do calculations. Also strongly confusing this .000 in price. 

Edited January 27, 2017 by Дяпчик

[shirsig 18]

What do you need to keep in mind? You don't need to do calculations, you can use g/s/c. I usually don't use them though because I think in gold anyway.

[EffToyz 12]

12 hours ago, orwell said:

Who the fuck needs to see "lvl" "Time left" "Seller" AND "Hist value"? You wanna see lvl - you hover over the item. You wanna sort items by level- revert to blizzard ui. And do you need time left? Are you bidding on auctions? no. cos you're not fucking stupid. AND DO YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO'S SELLING YOUR GODDAMN LEATHERS?

 

 

Disagree with lvl, I'm buying gear pretty often when leveling and sorting by level is good.

Historical value and time left is good for those who playing on AH to make some gold. 

I'm sure it's pretty it's doable to make some columns optional and be able to turn it off if you wish.

And totally agree with seller's name, it is so rare (and could be moved to tooltip (optional?)).

[EffToyz 12]

9 hours ago, Дяпчик said:

You made a great addon, but for me TSM input style very uncomfortable. Every time you need to keep in mind this numbetrs and it so annoying... In divided  fields you just inpun numbers and don't need do calculations. Also strongly confusing this .000 in price. 

 

also you can enter .15 for 15 silver, or .5 for 50 silver. Not sure if you can use .5s for 50copper, but honestly why would you enter price manually if you can undercut with one click?

[SealHeal 0]

I noticed a few problems in the expansion:

1. Some things are not put up for AUC, here's an example

2. Some things can not see the price, it is pieces of T1, that is, on the Auc and are scanned, but when the fall in the raid, the prices are not visible.

3. I can not see prices epic scrolls BoE

4. how to explain addon that I want to set the maximum number of items in the Stack always, not every item separately. So he immediately determines the maximum number of items and offered to put the maximum in the stack, rather than on 1 piece

5. you can not write something like the sale on Auc 5 5 0, so that he once defined 5g 5s 0c?

6. how to disable the comparison of things and dressed in the search for an auction? I should addon EquipCompare and they overlap each other

7. Chant does not display on the weapon when the goods at auction

 

Edited January 29, 2017 by SealHeal