Randomer 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Helm Mish'undare, Circlet of the Mind Flayer - Nefarion, BWL T2 - Ony (Is better and easier to get then Lifegiver, Worth using untill it get nerfed) Helm of the Lifegiver - Lucifron/Gehennas/Shazzrah/Harbinger, MC Insightful Hood - Cho'Rush the observer, DM N Neck Choker of the Fire Lord - Ragnaros, MC Animated Chain Necklace - Ramstein, Strat UD Shoulders Wild Growth Spaulders - Majordomo, MC Dawnbringer Shoulders - BS Crafted Cloak Shroud of Pure Thought - Flamegor, BWL Hide of the Wild - LW Crafted Chest Robe of Volatile Power - Lucifron/Gehennas/Shazzrah/Harbinger, MC Robes of the Exalted - Rivendare, Strat UD Bracers Gallant's Wristguards - Guards, DM N Gloves Harmonious Gauntlets - King Gordok, DM N Belt Corehound Belt - LW Crafted Whipvine Cord - Alzzin the Wildshaper, DM E Legs Empowered Leggings - Chromaggus, BWL Salamander Scale Pants-Lucifron/Gehennas/Shazzrah/Harbinger,MC Padre's Trousers - Illyanna Ravenoak, DM W Boots Boots of Pure Thought - Trash, BWL Boots of the Full Moon - Captain Kromcrush, DM N Rings Pure Elementium Band - Nefarian, BWL Cauterizing Band - Majordomo, MC Fordring's Seal - Strat Live quest Trinkets Scrolls of Blinding Light - Firemaw, BWL Rejuvenating Gem - Ebonroc/Firemaw/Flamegor, BWL Neltharion's Tear- Nefarian- BWL ( Will go to Caster first AND is not as good as other trinket) Briarwood Reed - Jed, UBRS Mindtap Talisman - Magister Kalendris, DM W Weapon Lok'amir il Romathis - Nefarian, BWL Azuresong Mageblade - Golemagg, MC Aurastone Hammer - Garr, MC The Hammer of Grace - The Seven, BRD Off-Hand Lei of the Lifegiver - AV Exalted Brightly Glowing Stone - King Gordok, DM N Edited February 13, 2017 by Randomer 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 Should probably have included with what patch in your title. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
filitz 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) for the love of god can people stop mentioning robe of volatile power as bis item for pala, you'll be using strat ud robe till aq40 edit: also half of these items won't even be in the game on fresh realm launch for months Edited December 8, 2016 by filitz 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 That robe is very good for pally cause mana refund from crits. HOWEVER, since he is clearly referencing this for 1.4 itemization, it will be going to warlocks and mages over pally until ZG drops and they get bloodvine. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
filitz 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 That robe is very good for pally cause mana refund from crits. HOWEVER, since he is clearly referencing this for 1.4 itemization, it will be going to warlocks and mages over pally until ZG drops and they get bloodvine. that robe is dogshit no matter what patch, no way around it m8 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomer 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Should probably have included with what patch in your title. tnx i forgot to do that Volatile power will obviously go to your caster first, but its still an upgrade from robe of the exalted if no caster want it Edited December 8, 2016 by Randomer 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exgf 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) What Filitz said. Strat UD is BiS till aq40, period. Now i`m not much of a patch guy but here is the real BiS list since if DM is released then other 5mens should be too right? Helm from DM:N, shaman Neck from Strat UD, rammstein Shoulders: Dawnbringer but since too expensive just go for living shoulders. Back : Hide of the wild, crafted, DM:W immolthar if poor. chest : strat UD, baron wrist : scholo, kirtonos gloves : DM:N, king belt : obviously corehound but if too expensive go for scholo random drop or DM:E last boss. pants : DM:W, Ilyana boots : I`m guessing DM:N captain or UBRS rend. rings : EPL questline + BRD quest. trinkets : UBRS jed + BRD golem or DM:N book. wep : BRD 7d. offhand AV or DM:N till then. libram : scholo mini`s whenever it comes out. Edited December 8, 2016 by Exgf 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomer 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 If you can get a volatile power, its gonna be better then the robe of the exalted 100% And no the DM patch is not when the other dongeons got buff up 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proofwashere 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 If you can get a volatile power, its gonna be better then the robe of the exalted 100% And no the DM patch is not when the other dongeons got buff up You have any idea who's advice you're ignoring? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Druds 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) If you can get a volatile power, its gonna be better then the robe of the exalted 100% And no the DM patch is not when the other dongeons got buff up Actually it depends, in terms of EP (1heal=1int=xSpellCrit) you would value Robe of the Exalted as the better choose if you think 1 crit is less then 17.5 healing. So I guess it will be up to personal play style. EDIT: What about Judgement Head, Choker of Enlightenment (I think the -25 per spellcast goes away with BWL), Azuresong Mageblade (Only got 1% crit in 1.5?). I would like to know how you came up with this list. Edited December 15, 2016 by Druds 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 Actually it depends, in terms of EP (1heal=1int=xSpellCrit) you would value Robe of the Exalted as the better choose if you think 1 crit is less then 17.5 healing. So I guess it will be up to personal play style. EDIT: What about Judgement Head, Choker of Enlightenment (I think the -25 per spellcast goes away with BWL), Azuresong Mageblade (Only got 1% crit in 1.5?). I would like to know how you came up with this list. So look, since 1crit=12.5+healing, AND crit is always better because of its 100% mana back the exalted that is 63+heal 5int AND volatile power that is 2%crit 23+heal 15int SO 10+heal 10int and a clear upgrade... the fact that u get it before dps is not important here Your next real upgrade is mish'undare so u can kept the judgement crown but should go for the lifegiver if theres one u can grab easy that neck is trash and mageblade get buffed in bwl patch i think with 40+heal and u wont get something until zg unless u are lucky 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Druds 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 So look, since 1crit=12.5+healing, AND crit is always better because of its 100% mana back the exalted that is 63+heal 5int AND volatile power that is 2%crit 23+heal 15int SO 10+heal 10int and a clear upgrade... the fact that u get it before dps is not important here Your next real upgrade is mish'undare so u can kept the judgement crown but should go for the lifegiver if theres one u can grab easy that neck is trash and mageblade get buffed in bwl patch i think with 40+heal and u wont get something until zg unless u are lucky So -25 mana per cast is trash? During 5 seconds you cast 2-3 flash of lights at least, that is 75 mp/5. That is pretty BiS until BWL patch. If you value 1crit as 12.5 healing, then Robe of the Exalted is way better then Volatile Power. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomer 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 #1 idk where u see that 25mana per cast #2 i made a mistake about that sry...You should switch 1%crit vs 25+heal**** But +heal is on a 3second heal, with your fol (1.5sec) you get only half of your +heal value 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccsolembum 1 Report post Posted December 21, 2016 some pre-bis loot for the Fresh server that doesn't include all the dire maul stuff Head: Whitesoul Helm - CraftedNeck: Tooth of Gnarr - UBRSShoulder: Living Shoulders - CraftedBack: Archivist Cape - Strat LivingChest: Robes of the Exalted - Strat UDWrist: Loomguard Armbraces - ScholoGloves: Hands of the Exalted Herald - BRDPants: Skyshroud Leggings - LBRSBoots: Verdant Footpads - Strat UDRings: Fordrings Seal - Quest /Songstone of Ironforge or Horde equivalent - QuestTrinkets: Second Wind - BRD / Briarwood Reed - UBRSWeapon: Hammer of Grace - BRD from http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/280-bis-pre-raid-for-holy-paladins/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papaja 0 Report post Posted December 27, 2016 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RFchVXiIqah9tmc5X0T70o7pR-oP4wI_dTOpbbUkClI This spreadsheet has some thorough theorycrafting. Stats on the items are from 1.12.1 though, so they need to be modified to match the current values which are used on the servers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaelum 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2016 some pre-bis loot for the Fresh server that doesn't include all the dire maul stuff Head: Whitesoul Helm - Crafted Neck: Tooth of Gnarr - UBRS Shoulder: Living Shoulders - Crafted Back: Archivist Cape - Strat Living Chest: Robes of the Exalted - Strat UD Wrist: Loomguard Armbraces - Scholo Gloves: Hands of the Exalted Herald - BRD Pants: Skyshroud Leggings - LBRS Boots: Verdant Footpads - Strat UD Rings: Fordrings Seal - Quest /Songstone of Ironforge or Horde equivalent - Quest Trinkets: Second Wind - BRD / Briarwood Reed - UBRS Weapon: Hammer of Grace - BRD from http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/280-bis-pre-raid-for-holy-paladins/ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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