Help newbie decide faction on PVE realm

[Khorinis1 0]

Hey everyone, I am new here for the first time on a wow private server due to being fed up with Blizzard, and decided to roll on the PVE server (90% decided lol). On retail I played on pvp servers since the beginning and i don't have very fond memories from vanilla/TBC areas (corpse camping fun times ) so I am almost entirely sure that I want to play on the pve realm xD. I do have a few pleasant, epic wpvp moments in memory but not sure if i could endure it these days and I am pretty sure I would have a REALLY hard time convincing my wife to give vanilla a go on pvp realm ^^ ...though fighting at crossroads and in other areas was pretty bad попа at lvl 60/70, lvling/ gathering was hell.

 

Anyway... Are the two factions even in pve progress? I know servers just reopened and things are chaotic atm, but while I see pvp server constantly on a 50/50 balance, the pve one is usually with 10% more alliance on EU time, up to 15-18% more alliance during US time so I am concerned about finding fast-ish dungeon groups/ plenty of guilds for raids once the hype dies down and the servers stabilize. Maybe you can tell me how the balance worked on old Nost? not sure how reliable numbers are with servers freshly reopened... especially with lots of people in starting zones atm (tirisfal glades holy mother of clusterваууs)

 

I ask this question because I am really torn between undead mage and dwarf hunter but i think it would suck if horde ends up having far lower numbers, therefore fewer pve activities.

 

Any help/advice appreciated guys

 

PS. What's up with russian (i think) words instead of certain words that appear on forum? Is that the website's profanity filter? or maybe it it is giberish but it does look like cyrilic

Edited December 22, 2016 by Khorinis1

[gotmilk0112 10]

The server is so heavily populated that it has queues during the daytime. It really won't matter which faction you choose.

[Thicshake 0]

This is my take on this:

 

Mages are super useful, they provide portals, food and water, crowd control and are good at pvp and pve. (People want you in their group)

 

Hunters although eaiser to level may find it harder to get in raids (however they are needed for their tranq shot) They deal good single target damage though ( I think)

 

Just choose whatever faction you want, I've played alliance my whole life and decided to level a horde character, and I was bloody surprised. So much content I've missed out on.

 

(PS. Russian text is profanity filter eg: вау)

[Khorinis1 0]

@gotmilk

 

I know, I did spend 45 min to log in yesterday. Thing is, a lot of this might be just hype... A LOT of people, like me, only heard about nostalrius' existance when they were shut down and had a talk with blizz. So now we have a lot of old nost players restarting and a lot of new people giving vanilla a shot.

 

Populations might end up being cut in half within a month and more later down the road. For example on retail I play on Outland, very high pop realm that on launch of every expansion you get 5000+ que in first 2 weeks, then 1500+ que for a month and after 3-4 months since launch bam... from full to medium population... why? Hype.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Khorinis1

[gotmilk0112 10]

Even if the active population is reduced by 50%, that's still at least 4-5k players, which is a shitload for one server.

 

Every single day, we're hitting the 6k cap and having queues anywhere from 3000 to 5000.

[Khorinis1 0]

@Thicshake

 

Yeah, from that aspect I am looking towards mage because I remember hunters weren't that great back in the day but I was also afraid about mages being all over the place I just want to know if factions will stay balanced at max lvl long term... based on the past experience of you veterans. I would prefer horde just because I REALLY miss it (being alliance for 7-8 years aprox)... just seeing old Orgrimmar cheered me up, the new one is an atrocity

 

@gotmilk

 

Again, I am not that much worried about general population. I am sure it will stay healthy enough. I am just worried a bit about faction balance... dont want horde to end up being 30% or less... This was a pretty common problem on retail... even on realms that used to be 50/50 and now they are 80% alliance.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Khorinis1

[Thicshake 0]

@Thicshake

 

Yeah, from that aspect I am looking towards mage because I remember hunters weren't that great back in the day but I was also afraid about mages being all over the place I just want to know if factions will stay balanced at max lvl long term... based on the past experience of you veterans. I would prefer horde just because I REALLY miss it (being alliance for 7-8 years aprox)... just seeing old Orgrimmar cheered me up, the new one is an atrocity

 

@gotmilk

 

Again, I am not that much worried about general population. I am sure it will stay healthy enough. I am just worried a bit about faction balance... dont want horde to end up being 30% or less... This was a pretty common problem on retail... even on realms that used to be 50/50 and now they are 80% alliance.

 

If you really want to get settled in, you might wanna just fool around on the pve server till the new FRESH server comes out. (Being announced 25th December)

[Khorinis1 0]

Yeah I read about it, but isn't fresh just pvp? For an accurate measure i would have to fool around for 1-2 months till the hype dies down and then I see who sticks where xD but hey, i'm hyped too and want to play, but this is vanilla and lvling is an epic challenging experience so these days I kinda want to avoid unnecessary re-rolling.

 

I'm sure I am making a "big" deal out of nothing, just having a few perfectionists' bugs in my head that want that perfect planning/start in everything lol

[Thicshake 0]

Yeah I read about it, but isn't fresh just pvp? For an accurate measure i would have to fool around for 1-2 months till the hype dies down and then I see who sticks where xD but hey, i'm hyped too and want to play, but this is vanilla and lvling is an epic challenging experience so these days I kinda want to avoid unnecessary re-rolling.

 

I'm sure I am making a "big" deal out of nothing, just having a few perfectionists' bugs in my head that want that perfect planning/start in everything lol

Seems like you've made up your mind, good luck my man.

[Khorinis1 0]

Thank you and yes, more or less I have. Still nice to hear opinions and useful info from people.

[Athena 3]

Again, I am not that much worried about general population. I am sure it will stay healthy enough. I am just worried a bit about faction balance... dont want horde to end up being 30% or less... This was a pretty common problem on retail... even on realms that used to be 50/50 and now they are 80% alliance.

 

Then roll Horde...

[Yoga 3]

Since this is for PVE server:

 

Alliance:

Pvp: Stronger premade's in high-end usually because paladins, usually loses more in pug AB and WSG. AV is in high favor for Alliance.

Pve: Easier mode at least on the 2 first raids and pretty much overall after that. For Melee human is the master-race of the game and paladins bring amazing buffs that scale well with gear. Blessing of Salvation is something you might want to take in consideration if you are rolling: Warlock, Fury Warrior or Tank.

 

Horde:

Pvp: Wins a bit more pugs game, needs to stand up in Pre-mades because paladin + warrior combo is hard to counter. Imo AB is better for horde prem's than WSG. AV might be real horror if you are having a bad day. Stronger racial's for solo play for more classes.

Pve: Tanks need to push about that 30% more threat in raids, and dps warriors and warlocks needs to be on their toes to not overaggro. Shaman totems bring some nice utility but there is a reason why there were only 1 or 2 horde guilds in top 10 world firsts on Naxx, alliance just has it bit easier.

 

Overall: Horde has a bit faster leveling imo. Not so much travelling and usually Horde FP's are middle of the map. Imo alliance has a bit better storyline in their own zones but that is probably matter of taste.

 

If you have played vanilla before you could choose the other faction and see their storyline and major citys. I think faction choosing is a bit different in PVE server because there is no world pvp. I think the racials are not so important and you see more alliance warlocks because they dont need to counter that 50% UD rogue population in every zone.

[Fightmilk 0]

Since this is for PVE server:

Alliance:

Pvp: Stronger premade's in high-end usually because paladins, usually loses more in pug AB and WSG. AV is in high favor for Alliance.

Pve: Easier mode at least on the 2 first raids and pretty much overall after that. For Melee human is the master-race of the game and paladins bring amazing buffs that scale well with gear. Blessing of Salvation is something you might want to take in consideration if you are rolling: Warlock, Fury Warrior or Tank.

Horde:

Pvp: Wins a bit more pugs game, needs to stand up in Pre-mades because paladin + warrior combo is hard to counter. Imo AB is better for horde prem's than WSG. AV might be real horror if you are having a bad day. Stronger racial's for solo play for more classes.

Pve: Tanks need to push about that 30% more threat in raids, and dps warriors and warlocks needs to be on their toes to not overaggro. Shaman totems bring some nice utility but there is a reason why there were only 1 or 2 horde guilds in top 10 world firsts on Naxx, alliance just has it bit easier.

Overall: Horde has a bit faster leveling imo. Not so much travelling and usually Horde FP's are middle of the map. Imo alliance has a bit better storyline in their own zones but that is probably matter of taste.

If you have played vanilla before you could choose the other faction and see their storyline and major citys. I think faction choosing is a bit different in PVE server because there is no world pvp. I think the racials are not so important and you see more alliance warlocks because they dont need to counter that 50% UD rogue population in every zone.

Ppl always say alliance is better in pve raids but shamans are just as amazing as paladins. And the first guild to clear naxx was on horde.

[Yoga 3]

Ppl always say alliance is better in pve raids but shamans are just as amazing as paladins. And the first guild to clear naxx was on horde.

 

Well as i said the top 10 guilds in most of the bosses are 8 alliance 2 horde and in KT kills 7 alliance and 3 horde. But you are right that in the top end alliance and horde are close to equal but blessing of salvation makes many of the dps chekcs in game relatively easier for Horde. I have played both in MC, BWL and Alliance on AQ. Not done naxx but if i think about advantages for horde in any MC or BWL bosses i don't see any where horde would have advantage or it's really minor.

Alliance in the other hand has Blessing Of Salvation which makes every encounter easier + most of the BWL (and ony) fights are threat sensitive so it pulls a lot more preassure to horde tanks. Chromaggus you benefit for Paladins cheap mana cost cleanse makes it easier on horde. Nefarian Paladin call is joke compared to Shaman call and dwarf priest's can use fear ward. So overall i would say Alliance have more tools in Pve than horde to succeed and it leaves a bit more room for errors.

[Fightmilk 0]

Well as i said the top 10 guilds in most of the bosses are 8 alliance 2 horde and in KT kills 7 alliance and 3 horde. But you are right that in the top end alliance and horde are close to equal but blessing of salvation makes many of the dps chekcs in game relatively easier for Horde. I have played both in MC, BWL and Alliance on AQ. Not done naxx but if i think about advantages for horde in any MC or BWL bosses i don't see any where horde would have advantage or it's really minor.

Alliance in the other hand has Blessing Of Salvation which makes every encounter easier + most of the BWL (and ony) fights are threat sensitive so it pulls a lot more preassure to horde tanks. Chromaggus you benefit for Paladins cheap mana cost cleanse makes it easier on horde. Nefarian Paladin call is joke compared to Shaman call and dwarf priest's can use fear ward. So overall i would say Alliance have more tools in Pve than horde to succeed and it leaves a bit more room for errors.

A working windfury can increase melee dps by like 15/20%. Also once a MT gets thunderfury the risk of pulling aggro goes way down. It devalues salv imo.