Enhacement support in raids - need experienced advice

[KonigsTiger 2]

Gentlemen,

I was thinking about leveling a shaman to have a horde character, since I have always played as alliance in Vanilla.

I heard that elemental is just bad in PVE, but enhacement could have some use, if the shaman specs into a full support role.

I know that my dps would be bad compared to others, but according to some people, the ammount of support that I would bring to the raid would make it up. Always with Nightfall, of course. 

Any thoughs or comments about this?

 

Thanks

Edited January 18, 2017 by KonigsTiger

[seeth07 1]

stop being lazy and read through the forums below....you will find your answers

[KonigsTiger 2]

33 minutes ago, seeth07 said:

stop being lazy and read through the forums below....you will find your answers

I have lurked around a little bit, but none provide detailed information from personal or raid leading experience, atleast in my opinion.

Plus I see no post sticked that provide guides. 

Additionally, I didn´t find any factical proof about the viability of the spec. 

Edited January 18, 2017 by KonigsTiger

[eukal 1]

Try this one.

[KonigsTiger 2]

25 minutes ago, eukal said:

Try this one.

Thanks, I will watch the video after work.

[seeth07 1]

The video was already posted in the forums....if you would have looked, you would have found....

Basically the truth is this, enhancement shamans exist in raid groups.  There isn't always one but if there is, there is only one of them.  Find the guild willing to take the one enhancement shaman and become that guy.  Otherwise, roll a shaman for PVP (in which really all three specs are viable) or roll a shaman for PVE as resto.

[gotmilk0112 10]

You're better "support" as resto, not enh.

 

Enh does crap DPS and doesn't bring anything that a resto shaman can't. Resto on the other hand, brings great heals and the ever-useful Mana Tide.

 

Even if you were to bring a Nightfall, that's still something that can be done by offtanks, not enh shamans.

[seeth07 1]

That isn't entirely true gotmilk, there is a slight advantage that enhancement brings which resto doesn't.  The key word there is "slight" and thus why I have never seen more than 1 enhancement shaman in any raid group I've gone on (well a non easy mode farm raid run).

[gotmilk0112 10]

The only "advantage" Enhancement has, is a slight buff to Windfury/Strength/Agi totems. Even so, that is only +95 AP on those Windfury hits, +9 strength on strength totem, or +9 agi on agi totem. An extremely minor "advantage".

 

It's not worth bringing a mediocre DPS to the raid for +9 strength to one group or a slight AP bonus to Windfury attacks.

[seeth07 1]

Didn't i use the word "slight" :P  Another "slight" benefit is that you can put the enh shaman in the melee group for the totem buff rather than a resto shaman.  This gives his mana tide totem a greater benefit by helping other casters rather than wasted on only himself.

[gotmilk0112 10]

My point is that the healing a resto shaman brings, far outweighs that "slight advantage" to the melee group.

[seeth07 1]

Well there is no comparison here from enhancement to resto.  You're going to bring the amount of resto shamans that you want.  The comparison is do you bring an enhancement shaman or another rogue or a dps warrior.  I have never seen a spreadsheet where someone took the time and did the math to see which is truly better (basically comparing a group of 3 rogues and 1 dps warrior (with a resto shaman) vs a group of 2 rogues, 1 dps warrior and 1 enh sham - there is another rogue but for the sake of comparison you have to remove a dps since the resto would be zero dps) I suppose you could add just the "benefited dps" from the extra rogue

If it was close, then you could look at the minor fact that the mana tide totem will be helping out 4 other players rather than just the resto shaman who is stuck in the melee group.

Edited January 18, 2017 by seeth07

[KonigsTiger 2]

5 hours ago, seeth07 said:

The video was already posted in the forums....if you would have looked, you would have found....

Basically the truth is this, enhancement shamans exist in raid groups.  There isn't always one but if there is, there is only one of them.  Find the guild willing to take the one enhancement shaman and become that guy.  Otherwise, roll a shaman for PVP (in which really all three specs are viable) or roll a shaman for PVE as resto.

The video doesn´t answer my question.