Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 So if I play with someone on the same LAN, and send gold and items back and forth between said accounts on same LAN, will i get banned for gold trafficking? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 No. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 So if i boost family playing with me, and send them items and gold *nothing* will happen to me? Because i was with someone in party doing just that, got banned for "gold trafficking". for sending over 30 gold.then he went and pleaded against it and nothing. "you're trafficking old and thats final". What guarantees do I have, at this point, witnessing all this, that the same crap won't happen to me? Or anyothers for that matter? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) I mean come on, i want a clean server just as much as the next player, but i think we ALL need to know, that innocents don't just get flagged as goldsellers for paying a warlock for a summon or sending over gold for friends they play with. Edited January 31, 2017 by Weazool 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokeit 26 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 If you control 2 accounts at once by yourself, it's bannable. Unless you trade in major cities. But you can play together with a pal on the same IP. Idk who that guy was who said that, but he probably bought illegal gold or something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reiga 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) ok Edited February 3, 2017 by Reiga 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Being on same IP address doesn't make any difference. Multiboxing or trading in ill-gotten gold is what get's someone banned. It is possible to get a rare false-positive and receive a ban, for which you can ask for a review. Safest thing to do is not put yourself in harms way. Edited January 31, 2017 by Ellipsea 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) He didn't get banned for "multiboxing" the reason stated was gold trafficking. wich on the same LAN/same public is absurd. How likely is the auto-banning script likely to create these false positives? Imagine one day you're getting a boost from someone while he's boosting his gf too, the next day said guy gets banned. "gold trafficking" and final, 2 appeals i think. It's normal to get freaked out, right? And now im searching and seeing there are some people reporting the same stuff, some guy even got accused of being the friend he's posting stuff for. Edited January 31, 2017 by Weazool 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, Weazool said: He didn't get banned for "multiboxing" the reason stated was gold trafficking. wich on the same LAN/same public is absurd. How likely is the auto-banning script likely to create these false positives? Imagine one day you're getting a boost from someone while he's boosting his gf too, the next day said guy gets banned. "gold trafficking" and final, 2 appeals i think. It's normal to get freaked out, right? And now im searching and seeing there are some people reporting the same stuff, some guy even got accused of being the friend he's posting stuff for. I'm answering your theoretical questions. If you're speaking on behalf of someone that got banned, that conversation is for them and a staff member. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Indeed, it's speculation, and theory, i totally agree. So if someone were to log on on MY machine from MY ip adress, while my account is inactive/logged out (no multiboxing), and mail me say 30 gold, log out and then i go on my account and play on, (meaning if i were to simulate getting sponsored by someone playing with me, from my own home /same LAN as me) will I or will I not get auto-banned for gold trafficking? Keep in mind that it's not against the ToU (or if i am mistaken please correct me) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 it's also meant to emulate the following situation: i go over to my real friends house, he shows me his char, i decide to lend him some money (one-time login from an IP diffrent from the one i usually play on) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) multipost bug. Edited January 31, 2017 by Nelythia 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 Omg this topic.. As long as you dont multibox or buy gold, its fine. Nothing else 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 i admit the thread title is misleading i should have called it "goldtrafficking over the same LAN" Allright let's see if i trigger a ban if a friend _lends_ me 30 gold logged on my ip, my mac adress, just like he was visiting me and helping me out with cash, huh? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 It won't trigger a ban. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jorn Skyseer said: It will trigger a ban. did you try it, or speculating? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reiga 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) I have 3 computers in my house, so is it safe for me to trade my gf's lvl 10 char 2000 gold ? will i get banned for that ? The gold is mine alone, farmed by myself fairly. Edited January 31, 2017 by Reiga 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 According to whats currently posted in the rules thread, it's not against the rules. However, may we please find out if the anticheat/autoban component will flag us for it? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 The anti cheat will not flag you for trading items or gold if its not bought. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shiamorah 20 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) In my personal experience, I have been playing with my girlfriend and we have swapped items via mail and trade with no return. And your IP addresses aren't the same, so that is a nonissue. As long as they are two separate accounts used via two separate IP addresses, I doubt any trouble will come your way. And if it does, I believe posting a ban appeal where both parties involved can prove their IP is attached to their account, then I highly doubt this would conclude with a ban. I think the only issue would be if there are increments of gold transfers, which is a typical gold seller scheme, or trading of gold to multiple people without reason. Edited February 1, 2017 by Shiamorah 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 how would it determine if it was bought or not? i find it highly unlikely, to say the least, to store transaction history and origin for every dime in-game, and every micro-transaction. it's pure insanity in terms of logging and storing such information. most likely transactions or mails would get flagged at some point. question is: how would sending a bunch of coins from one pc to another in the same LAN violate the ToU, why do bans for such things happen, and why appealing for such fall on deaf ears? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shiamorah said: In my personal experience, I have been playing with my girlfriend and we have swapped items via mail and trade with no return. And your IP addresses aren't the same, so that is a nonissue. As long as they are two separate accounts used via two separate IP addresses, I doubt any trouble will come your way. And if it does, I believe posting a ban appeal where both parties involved can prove their IP is attached to their account, then I highly doubt this would conclude with a ban. I think the only issue would be if there are increments of gold transfers, which is a typical gold seller scheme, or trading of gold to multiple people without reason. quite the opposite, how would gold transfers on accounts logging on from the same public IP constitute an indication of gold trafficking? selling gold to oneself? and how would a reason for such a transaction be checked since it's mostlikely a mail with random letters for a subject, one would just tell the other "im sending you cash for that stuff right now, check your mailbox" 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 Can we already stop this topic? The anti cheat as well as gold trafficking detector will not flag or ban you if the gold is legitimately earned. If its bought or sold gold, then you will get banned. Ofc false positives happen, but they'll be unbanned fast after a review. They will not tell you how it flags you, I wont tell you either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weazool 1 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Okay then,forget about me asking how it actually flags me. Define "illegitimately earn" and i'll shutup about it if it makes sense. Edited February 1, 2017 by Weazool 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baracoot 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Nelythia said: Ofc false positives happen, but they'll be unbanned fast after a review. Be prepared to wait over 2 weeks for "fast after a review". The team here moves at the speed of smell. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
