Into 3 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) The Vanilla PVP servers are kinda weird! Elysium is way overcrowded to the point of making me want to vomit on everyone in Orgrimmar (or the Barrens, or... take your pick).Z'K has almost no one on it (EDIT: I was wrong about this: Z'K has more than the biggest realms in retail Vanilla did. I play here now and it's perfect!)Anathema is probably justtt right (EDIT: upon further review, Z'K is much more fun than Anathema or Elysium)... and yet is unfortunately farther along in the journey. I ended up choosing that one, but it's too bad more people don't wake up and roll their toons on Z'K instead of Elysium to even themselves out. I would say transfers should be an option, but I know the whole point of Z'K was that no one can transfer toons in. It's the "hard mode" realm. Probably if EP just reversed the names, made Z'K "Elysium" from now on and Elysium --> Z'K, then the populations would eventually even out. Do people just pick Elysium because it's the namesake of the project? Edited February 27, 2017 by Into Played on Z'K for more than the first hour and realized it's amazing 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justme 9 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 I dont play on ZK for the same reason you dont play on ZK. > then why did you pick Elysium? It's fresh and seeing it crowded the first 20 levels is actually fun. After that it becomes annoying but by then you've already spent 10 hours in that char so you cba to reroll. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Into 3 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Justme said: I dont play on ZK for the same reason you dont play on ZK. > then why did you pick Elysium? It's fresh and seeing it crowded the first 20 levels is actually fun. After that it becomes annoying but by then you've already spent 10 hours in that char so you cba to reroll. It wore off for me around level 12 and I re-rolled on Anathema. That has been a pretty good decision so far, but it's still just slightly too crowded leveling up (as opposed to vomitously overcrowded on Elysium and deserted on ZK). Not sure if I'll miss not seeing Anathema from the very beginning of its existence (as Nost) or not! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jupes85 5 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 People are always drawn towards where everyone else is. One major misconception, and you are as guilty as everyone else, is assuming that ZK has virtually no players, or at least not enough to make it a fun experience, when in fact, the server feels very lively. STV is a constant warzone, and I can't even imagine how it is on Elysium. It must be virtually impossible to do anything. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madhungry123 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2017 Honestly, its like all overcrowded servers. Grind through the solo drop quests and group up for the quests where credit can be shared by all members. Plus, it makes World PVP super fun. I mean nesingwary was literally a battleground for like 2-3 days i was in STVietnam. Get owned by 3 people come back with 5 and own them, then a raid group of 20 comes then some 60s then a bunch of 60s, ETC. I have leveled up like a million characters combined over all my private servers, but its these crazy World PVP encounters that make the experience unique and enjoyable. If you wanna just level up super fast with no crowding, go to any of the Vanilla servers with peak population under 1000. No wait for quest objectives, plenty of alone time (BORING). Elysium is da best! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Into 3 Report post Posted February 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Jupes85 said: I can't even imagine how it is on Elysium. It must be virtually impossible to do anything. It truly is, actually. You have to group up with other people to do any quest at all. Or else you're waiting for spawns for an average of 20 minutes per quest, and even then someone will inevitably tag a mob right as you start hitting it. I'll give ZK a second look soon. Anathema is nice, but it's also nice to not have everyone else be geared already when you hit 60. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cargalia 2 Report post Posted February 23, 2017 The reason elysium is so GD overcrowded is because there is 8800ish players on weekday avg 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justme 9 Report post Posted February 23, 2017 8 hours ago, cargalia said: The reason elysium is so GD overcrowded is because there is 8800ish players on weekday avg The reason it's overcrowded is because there are a lot of people Pure Einstein 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Into 3 Report post Posted February 23, 2017 On 2/22/2017 at 3:06 PM, Jupes85 said: One major misconception, and you are as guilty as everyone else, is assuming that ZK has virtually no players, or at least not enough to make it a fun experience, when in fact, the server feels very lively. STV is a constant warzone I now realize that my impression of ZK was from the starting zones only. It's a new realm and so most people are still leveling up their mains before they think of making alts. The midrange zones do seem very lively according to /who. I'll roll a toon on Zeth'Kur soon and give it a longer look! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heratick 0 Report post Posted February 25, 2017 What's the problem here? Would you rather have it that no one was on the server? Not able to run any dungeons, or do quests that require a group? Personally, I would much rather have overcrowding. It makes the game feel alive, and brings me back to vanilla WoW. It was pretty crowded in those days IIRC. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Into 3 Report post Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) On 2/25/2017 at 6:29 PM, Heratick said: What's the problem here? Would you rather have it that no one was on the server? Not able to run any dungeons, or do quests that require a group? Personally, I would much rather have overcrowding. It makes the game feel alive, and brings me back to vanilla WoW. It was pretty crowded in those days IIRC. I re-rolled on Zeth'Kur (after bouncing from Elysium to Anathema) and it's pretty exactly Blizz-like... very close to the experience of playing actual Vanilla. You're wrong that Vanilla servers were overcrowded in 2004-2006. In Vanilla, realms were given a queue as soon as 2500 people were on the realm at once, and while Z'K often has around 3000-3500 with no queue, the realm is 50/50 Horde:Alliance so doesn't seem crowded no matter which side you're on. That's not to say you don't see other people around as you travel throughout Z'K, as you see people all over the place. They're just not in your way all the time. Elysium, on the other hand, with 8000 to 13000 on, felt and feels like a cesspool to me. You asked what the problem was, it is that every single quest I did on Elysium had 4, 5, or 10 other people doing that exact same quest at the exact same time. If it's one you can group up to all get credit for, that works, even if it isn't as fun as doing it yourself. But a lot of quests, like finding Kron's Amulet with a low drop rate from Durotar/Barrens alligators, took me 1 hour to actually complete on Elysium (and so it's better to not even try) when it takes 2-6 minutes on Zeth'Kur (or actual Vanilla back in the day). The respawn rates are much slower in Vanilla than they are on Retail. Anyhoo, if you think Elysium is like Vanilla was, you didn't play much Vanilla or have a bad memory. Elysium has anywhere from 3X to 5X the amount of players that were allowed on at one time in Vanilla. Even Zeth'Kur has slightly more online much of the time than were allowed in actual retail Vanilla. Edited February 27, 2017 by Into 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
