Elysium MC since patch (4/19)

[Quiji 3]

I went into MC yesterday, and felt like I noticed some things with Lucifron/Gehennas that seemed off.

I am not a vanilla WoW expert by any means, but I hope that as more people step into the updated MC this week I can get some feedback.

Lucifron seemed to be casting Impending doom way more frequently than I remember. Like to the point where I as getting Impending doom again before the first one was done ticking.

Also during Gehennas's Reign of Fire ability I did not recall seeing my charcter become animated with the flame as a visual que for being in the fire.

If anyone notices these things, and can provide some feedback that would be great!

 

[Bioness 1]

You shouldn't rely solely on your memory, there are hundreds of videos of these bosses on Youtube.

The Gehennas Rain of Fire does give a visual queue. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find any AoE type of ability that doesn't.

 

As for Lucifron, next time you are in Molten Core time his debuffs, if they are really off from this video then you have reason for concern.

 

[Quiji 3]

I made sure to watch some videos before posting.

The lucifron problem seems to have been corrected. It could have just been a one time thing.

By animation of the fire in gehennas I am talking about the glow a character receives from standing inside of the bosses ability. I was in MC again today and I don't feel like I noticed this happening.

Just looking to see if anyone else notices this, or I am not right.

[Bioness 1]

I hadn't noticed anything like that. It may have been as you said, a one time thing.

[Vollfos 2]

i was yesterday in , and i couldnt see any significantly changes. 

 

i mean last patch from 19.4.  they patched the Impending Doom from Lucifron , because before he didnt cast it proper, sometimes only 1 times in the whole fight.

And Gehennas , i didnt realized it fast enough.

 

The problem is , both fights not even lasts 1 minute till their death. 

[Twentysix 0]

We were in MC yesterday on Elysium and draining Luci's mana to 0 no longer stops impending doom from being casted. It would be great if she could be fixed so that newer guilds to MC can continue doing Luci/Mag. I realize that this overtune has had no effect on guilds like Praise that just stack them all and cleave everything down, but it is very hard on newer guilds with only 300-400ish dps from our dps classes.

I would also agree with OP that she is casting more frequently than the video.

The fight has become a crazy gear check because of this. The only viable strategy is really geared DPS, which is not-blizzlike and pretty absurd for the first boss of MC.

[flowqz 34]

11 hours ago, Twentysix said:

We were in MC yesterday on Elysium and draining Luci's mana to 0 no longer stops impending doom from being casted. It would be great if she could be fixed so that newer guilds to MC can continue doing Luci/Mag. I realize that this overtune has had no effect on guilds like Praise that just stack them all and cleave everything down, but it is very hard on newer guilds with only 300-400ish dps from our dps classes.

I would also agree with OP that she is casting more frequently than the video.

The fight has become a crazy gear check because of this. The only viable strategy is really geared DPS, which is not-blizzlike and pretty absurd for the first boss of MC.

u know that u got 1.12 talents, which already make the fight WAY easier than back in classic?

dont try to burn his mana (who dafuq ever did that?). 

get the raid out of lucifrons los and kill the adds. afterwards just decurse/dispell and kill him.

[Twentysix 0]

The fight is not blizzlike as it is. It was too easy before but now it is over-tuned. Dooms too quickly and they don't utilize her mana. I'm well aware of the strategy, thanks for your input. But with overlapping (unblizzlike) impending dooms the only way to kill her for a mid-geared raid is to burn her mana after the adds are dead. (takes about 40 seconds)

[flowqz 34]

25 minutes ago, Twentysix said:

The fight is not blizzlike as it is. It was too easy before but now it is over-tuned. Dooms too quickly and they don't utilize her mana. I'm well aware of the strategy, thanks for your input. But with overlapping (unblizzlike) impending dooms the only way to kill her for a mid-geared raid is to burn her mana after the adds are dead. (takes about 40 seconds)

if your mages and druids focus on decurses i highly doubt you run out of mana in 40s (mb dont only use decursive, but give healers priority by doing it manually).

 

also about your "midgeared" raid stuff. mc items dont grant huge dps increases atm. all u need to do is farm more 5mans and get the craftable gear.

[Vollfos 2]

if you have prebis its more then ok to kill the first bosses, skill> gear

i mean fury warriors are with rogues first place in dmg and atm on elysium pvp there are only 4 items in whole mc which you could get to increase your dmg for fury.

 

[flowqz 34]

5 hours ago, Vollfos said:

if you have prebis its more then ok to kill the first bosses, skill> gear

i mean fury warriors are with rogues first place in dmg and atm on elysium pvp there are only 4 items in whole mc which you could get to increase your dmg for fury.

 

strikersmark

band of accuria

 

weapons in there are worse than ironfoe + felstriker.

[Bioness 1]

On 4/25/2017 at 2:01 AM, Twentysix said:

The fight is not blizzlike as it is. It was too easy before but now it is over-tuned. Dooms too quickly and they don't utilize her mana. I'm well aware of the strategy, thanks for your input. But with overlapping (unblizzlike) impending dooms the only way to kill her for a mid-geared raid is to burn her mana after the adds are dead. (takes about 40 seconds)

Minor thing: Lucifron is male, or at least identified as such (elementals don't have true genders?)

Also as flowqz said, you can line of sight the curse.

[Haestingas 30]

Luci is still fairly simple even in prebis if you decurse and use restorative potions. You realize a big reason why top guilds kill luci so fast is due to the majority of the raid using a restorative potion so the raid doesn't have to decurse or dispel for the first 30 seconds right? There's no way in hell you cant kill luci if you just resto pot.

*edit so I did some math, and even if your dps only do 300dps on average it will still only take ~60 seconds to kill luci with 25 dps. So a resto pot covers 50% of that fight duration, and then you finish up the last ~30 seconds with dispelling and decurse.

[Twentysix 0]

Yeah, resto pots make it quite easy. However, draining her mana stopping the casting was a function of the fight in the retail verison of the game. In her current state she is broken/unblizz-like.

With resto pots the fight is pretty simple still. Also later in the week when we went back in she was casting doom/curse about half as frequently.