Noob need some advise for beginner to progress further

[ingramli 0]

So i didnt play WOW, or any other MMORPG before. I started my journey in Anathema (the realm with low population), and Human Warrior (the hardest class to level considered by many). Now it is my situation,

 

Lv15 now

- The quest are so often in areas where there are multiple of bandits which stand very close each other (try to pull one usually means pulling 3~4 or more at one time = death secured), and i dont have skills/ranged weapons to pull only one at a time

 

- Most of the time there are not much people around the mission areas to form group, even if there are, in most situation the party is formed to achieved some kill objective quest, but in many situation i need to bring quest item to a specific area which is highly dangerous for solo, while i am not sure is other player willing to help just escorting me to the destination;

 

I have met some nice people  who give me free bags/armor equipments so i want to see if there is other way for me to complete the quest and level up without having to switch to another realm/class (but no, i dont want to spend enormous time to grind exp by repeat killing and killing and killing, it is too boring), any suggestion/advise? Thanks!

[Xanadu2112x 0]

What you have to do when there are multiple mobs is called 'kiting'. It means to run while keeping mobs away from you, like you are flying a kite with the mob as your kite.

So when there are multiple mobs, make sure you have plenty of space to run away. You start by shooting one of them with your ranged weapon (buy a white one from a vendor). Then when he comes close to you, hit him once with your weapon, turn around and run. Hitting a mob will reset or increase the range it takes for him to reset (lose aggro and go back to where he was pulled). The goal is to keep 1 mob with you, untill the other ones reset and go back to their spot. Then you can kill that 1 mob alone.

Another thing to worry about is getting dazed which reduces your movement speed. When an enemy hits you from behind you can get dazed, getting dazed while 3-4 mobs are chasing you can lead to certain death. Learn to '360 jump shot' as we used to call it. You jump and while mid air you turn around 180 degrees so you are facing the mob mid air, meaning you can't be dazed. Then before you land quickly turn back 180 degrees to your original direction. This way you can avoid being dazed and not lose any movement speed by turning around the normal way. Try and time your 360 jump with the mobs attack, so every time he attacks you are facing him, meaning no daze. You can even try and get an attack off on the mob mid air while you are turned around. This is a very useful skill to learn for any class who have instant cast spells they can cast while jumping.

[Nirinia 0]

or, as an easier method, just strafe away

[ingramli 0]

1 minute ago, Nirinia said:

or, as an easier method, just strafe away

excuse me what is "strafe" means?

[Nirinia 0]

use q and e to run sideways, if you do that then they have less chance of hitting you from behind

[axeffect 0]

If you are horde side add Monmonmoo and I can help answer your questions as they come..

 

Here is my general advice for Warriors(May apply to other classes, also e.g. melee):

1. Grind as much as possible if in the barrens..Just kill everything that will give you xp.

-This will help you stay on par when getting new quests. 

2. Get a ranged weapon asap(Level 10). Use a gun or bow to pull as few enemies to you. 

3. If you are feeling sluggish when fighting mobs, likely your weapon is the reason.

-Auction House is a good place to find greens and blues to keep up with having the best weapon possible when fighting. I try to afford the best weapon I can without going broke. Sometimes you will want to save your money though and stay with current weapons if AH has nothing affordable. Only drop big money on gear at level 60, but weapons can make your grinding experience much more pleasant.

4.  On terms of money, two tips come to mind. Get an addon to show the "sell values" of items. Keep the items that sell for the most, discard the ones that don't sell well. With this knowledge you can start to assume your income from grinding, this will give you an idea of what is affordable and what isn't,

-Time is money, friend!

5. PvP servers are going to be hectic as a newer player in places above level 30. Grinding gets harder. You are a sitting duck for gankfests, as well. Tough luck.

-Group up, but that 60 is coming back. What are you going to do? 

6. Level cooking and first aid. Having food and bandages helps to minimize downtime after hard fights.

7. Set-up stance bars so swapping stances is more fluid. In all three stances a few items stay in place. Sunder, heroic strike, and rend for example.

 

Hope it helps, good luck.

[Undertanker 88]

Check out my post here as it will give you some direction and may answer a lot of questions you have and some you don't:

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/21792-leveling-a-warrior/#comment-239964

 

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If Warrior will be your main:

 

Professions:

 

Pick up cooking and first aid.   Fishing can help level your cooking up to 100 pretty easily as rate of catch is high and many cooking items at low level call for fish.  Fishing after 85 skill starts to slow and will slow down your leveling.   At this point, when you are grinding, kill beast for what is gonna level your cooking and humanoid for cloth.   DO NOT SELL YOUR CLOTH.   Cooking will allow you to always have the "well fed" buff to give your warrior more stamina and some spirit (helps hp regen between mobs, minor but it comes with the buff so w/e)

All cloth should be made into bandages.  Even when you get the next level bandages, if you already made lesser ones, still use those first, don't vendor them.  You WILL use them all. If you're mid HP after a fight, use a lesser bandage for a few sec, if you fought 2 things and are low, use your best bandage.

Alch/Herb:

Herbing is annoying to level at the start, so fight through it, especially on a new server roll-out.  Fight through it and while you hunt forever you can still grind the mobs lower level than you, get used to this practice (see lack of hit above) it will give you the extra early exp needed so you can complete your quest in the next zone without crying due to "the struggle".  Pick up alchemy as well to pair with it.  HP potions are easy to make and will save you SOOOOOOO many times from death.  Keep about 20 on you and stash the rest in the bank.   Make the agility and str potions as well, and fort pots for more stam (it isn't a lot but when paired with well fed buff, you are in good shape) the str and agil pots make up for having gray/green gear.   Use these buff potions when you grind in safe zones or away from high traffic areas when in contested zones.   You will get pissed off if you pop 4 1-hour potions to get ganked right after.   I usually kept 1 stack of mana pots which I would give to the healer if I do an instance, most times they don't have them and it can save a wipe = less down time.   Until your guild is ready to raid and you can afford a Force Reactive Disk, stay with these at 60 and farm up as many raid consumables as you can yourself.  Stash these on an alt bank.

 

Spec:

 

You will find a lot of controversy on this.  I've leveled 8 warriors on this patch and finally got it down (IMO) with the 8th one.  Only 2 respecs from lvl 1 to lvl 59.  Here it goes.  DO NOT DUEL WIELD!

 

Level 1 - 39:

 

Get 5% Crit, Unbridled Wrath, Blood Craze - This will increase your damage, rage gain rate, and help you stay alive.  Keep a 1h and sword with you and a weapon swap from your 2H for fighting a caster/healer.  You will not access to pummel pre 30, and it will make these low armor mobs better exp and not make your life hell due to their high magic damage/OP heal.  Swap back mid fight when you get the hang of this.

 

Continue down until you get Enrage and Deathwish - 1/3 imp cleave over 1/5 imp Battle shout so you can kill more than 1 mob w/o having to drink when you pair with deathwish. Piercing Howl will save your life a lot when you pull too much, and help you in some world pvp if you rolled that server.  The important thing here is Enrage talent and understanding the synergy with Blood Craze.  You will want to make a macro for "/sit" and put it on your action bar.  Reason being, when you are sitting, you have a 100% chance to be crit, and you will automatically stand up after being hit.  So you can manually trigger this extra 25% damage for 100% uptime!!!  You may think, "OMG a crit, will lower my HP too much adding down time".   Not at all, because of Blood Craze.  (remember you should be grinding mobs 2-3 levels lower than you) If you compare a normal hit, vs a crit - the amount Blood Craze will heal you for, on most mobs you actually take LESS damage.  It is a small difference, but usually is less. Unless you get crit again while standing up and don't get full use out to Blood Craze from the first crit taken.   Take this to the bank.

 

Finish up with maxing out Cleave, then getting Flurry and Imp Bezerker Rage - Once you get the 3/3 Imp cleave, paired with keeping Enrage up, you can now grind 2 mobs at once VERY quickly.  The damage output far exceeds 3/5 imp battle shout.  Furry and Imp Rage is self explanatory.  Grats on reaching level 39.

*Note no weapon dependency.  Equip what you can find, but keep it a 2H - weapon speed does not matter here.  Only the DPS of the weapon.  Duel Wield gives you a large chance to miss penalty that isn't worth it until raiding. Rend is good at the start of a pull on high armor targets pre-lvl 40**

 

Level 40-60

 

TIME TO RESPEC:

 

Time to get Mortal Strike and Axe Specialization - by level 40 you should have already completed your WW axe quest.  If you are alliance, you can also get the SM Axe quest, slightly better.  Focus on Mortal Strike on single targets, and on multiple targets, use Sweeping Strikes > Whirl Wind.  If you get Stoneslayer from Uldaman or Warmonger from luck/AH, you can respec to sword specialization.  Otherwise stay with your slow 2H for Mortal Strike.  (Top end damage is what matters on your weapon).

 

Start down the Fury Tree for more crit and rage gains - You'll notice the specialization is now Polearm.  This is for when AV is released, jump into one at lvl 51 and go the struggle for a Korrak kill for your Ice Barbed Spear.  This will be your last weapon until 60.  Not sure when it will release, but eventually it will and this is your best weapon when it does.

 

Finish the way you started in the fury tree, getting Enrage and Blood Craze - Time to bring that /sit macro back out.  You can stay this spec until you get better fury duel wield gear, since Sweeping strikes is really good for 5 mans.

 

Note you only respec 2 times, unless you got a good sword mid 40s, then it is 3 times total.  Killing 2 mobs becomes much easier mid to late 20s.  By the time you got 3/3 imp cleave, you should aim to grind 2 at once when you can.

When you have the choice of what type of human, kill lower armor targets.  Beast typically have higher armor so only grind on them when you need the meat for cooking.

 

While people advocate just run instances, it is by far the worst EXP per hour thing to do in Vanilla.  Run an instance only when you have the quest and get your blue item from it.  Otherwise the long time investment for a CHANCE at an upgrade that you may lose a roll on, will not increase your leveling time vs grinding lower lvl mobs. 

 

I hope this helps anybody who has never done the Warrior Grind, or has done it, and felt is was painfully unbearable.  It is tough, don't let anybody lie to you.  I didn't have such a guide during my day and did the all types of leveling, including protection tree in 2005, duel wield, mix between the 3.   Learn from my mistakes and growing pains and enjoy the journey."