Ironsides

literally lmao at all the scrubs asking for slower content release. oh no, i might not be in BiS to roll over the next tier of content in 4 hours when it releases! fast release is how you make the game "hard". so what if you are barely able to clear domo while another guild is bumfucking cthun to death. get good lads.

tell me who pottu's real identity is and ill pay for your gas for 3 weeks shenna

Better fix to premades dodging: If you've died 10+ times without an HK blow you can /afk out without penalty Honor from HKs decays by 2.5%/kill while in battlegrounds, capping at 50%. Bonus honor from winning the match increases in an exponential function proportional to the amount of time. People afking out of a match regresses that additional bonus honor gain up to that point by 5% (so if a premade has cycled 20 puggers out of a single match, they'd get standard honor gain from winning the match). PvP isn't about horde vs alliance here, it's you competing against your own faction in honor/hour. If premades had any incentive to fight each other here, they might actually do that.

lmao at people talking about what "real vanilla pvp" was. you either organized win trading with your xfaction buddies you used to kill in DaOC/EQ/UO at 3 am when everyone was asleep or you fucking rolled pugs all day with your premade and dodged the other team. just because you were ignorant trashbags in 04-06 doesn't mean the same shit wasn't happening then. p.s, I like the 3 man limit because I enjoy pug vs pug retard matches more than actual rank grinding, but it is still a fucking stupid change to implement. If you can't see the problems that will arise from honor block groups that will inevitably form from the chinese mafia then I don't know what to tell you. Would expand on it here but I'd probably get forum banned again for speaking some inconvenient truths.

Congrats, you can finally quit WoW.

quote me someone who has any input in this thread thus far.

it's a free server. if you dont like it, play somewhere else don't forget to donate

if you donated more maybe the server would be up more

They're about on par with each other. I'd say BS probably outperforms because full clip rotations are easier to do with lag.

Premading ain't going away kiddo. WoW is a fucking MMORPG. Multiplayer game. Just because you're a fucking dumbass that no one wants to premade with doesn't mean you can't change yourself for the better. Try a lobotomy, I think it'd be an improvement for you. Alternatively, just go solo world pvp. You are playing this game for fun, right? You ain't a real pvper, you're a real faggot 100% Don't take the name in vain, small son.

Either go world pvp or make some friends you blithering moron

I never wasted time on the rejection station alakir

Really all you need to clear BWL is preraid BiS except on your MT/2nd/3rd Tanks. People flasking en masse for this content only became a thing when realmplayers came out. Realmplayers is the thing driving the autistic levels of preraid prep like world buffs, consumable stacking (lmao hunters using ud strat scrolls/jujus on their pets), and flasks for every player for every raid. With however 100+ guilds are raiding, this is obviously going to dry destroy the availability of herbs on the AH because there arent enough herbalists/herbs to satisfy the amount of people using those consumables. Supply/demand. Try doing a dry run, it's really not hard. The most you'll end up using is some superior/major mana potions and maybe a flask on the MT

you don't need flasks for every raider to clear current content

abusing server bugs.

"Nearly hour long conversation between Cadet and Drchristie with several core Mafia members and high ranking players on Elysium." holy shit, these forums are so fucking bad. I miss ED trashtalk, this is just unforgivable. chug bleach guy

Any hunter that hasn't taken elitist jerks' word as gospel should go ahead and reroll https://forum.elysium-project org/topic/31461-hunter-damage-cycles-breakdown-ej-repost/

I'm surprised you've been playing since scriptcraft (6+ years at this point?) and shady things still phase you on p-servers

didn't read it all of it because I was stopped when you said respec cost would be lowered. what a fantastic change, great job team

Who cares, you'll be slaying BWL as cutting edge content for another year anyways.

-are you human -do you have aclg -do you have distracting dagger/muggers belt

hard as fuck. I want this guy

i'm an octaroon but they accept me anyways

If you look at Anathema which has AQ unlocked then the disparity between top druids and top...well, anyone else (barring people who play retadins) increases at a greater rate. Sure. But a restodruid would be capable of that and be doing a decent job at raid healing instead of a subpar dps. Actually I'm glad you brought up the kill times because it really cracks open the mystery of how so many druids say they're "in the top dps for their guild". To kill a boss fast everyone must do high dps. To do high DPS, you must have proper consumes, gear, and ability (LMAO SKILL IN VANILLA WOW? I don't know what it is but it exists. I've even seen huge consistent discrepancies among arcfrost mages in the same gearsets). If you are not doing high dps, you lack 1+ of the three above. Most likely you lack the ability because it is the only intangible one. Now for a feral druid to be topping or even breaking top 10 on meters he must be in a guild with dps that is missing 1, 2, or even all 3 elements of what's required to do good dps. Naturally these guilds won't have good kill times. You're asking me to find a guild with dps that satisfies all 3 requirements that also deigns to weigh itself down with a feral druid so you can compare kill times. This guild does not exist, because guilds that allow snowflake builds like retadins,oomkins,and ferals don't care about getting preraid BiS, using consumes, getting dragonslayer/DM buffs, or even learning proper dps rotations/tricks (ask any rogue in your guild that you're beating on dps what energy pooling is). You're also asking me to put in a feral druid in a raid with players that satisfy the requirements to be good dps which is just laughable. Of course if the boss dies quick everyone's dps will be higher. If the only way druids do acceptable (your word) dps is by riding the coattails of people who picked the right class then I just have to laugh at the irony of a thread dedicated to minmaxing a trinket slot.

My point was that any difference you notice will be minimal because your dps is negligible in any case. windfury doesn't make them do good dps. I'm sorry that your guild recruits such terrible players that druids are even in your top 20. not only are druids at a much lower dps floor than other classes, their ceiling is much lower as well.