How Elysium looks?

[Angren 1]

After testing it a little bit on PTR and looking at bug reports I feel like the server will be pretty buggy to be completely honest. Things like NPCs/bosses in dungeons which are supposed to be summoned with quest (item) yet they are there spawned or many bosses like Vectus in Scholomance not saying anything and when you attack him he doesn't aggro whole room or few bosses in MC being utterly bugged make me question myself if I really want to start playing on Elysium. Am I wrong in my predictions? If yes, then please enlighten me. Also, how can you have so many basic problems with your core after so many years of people actively testing it on Valkyrie realm? I mean that it's pretty easy to spot the things I've mentioned right off the bat and they're pretty crucial to end game PvE so I don't believe no one reported them years ago.

[Xudojnik 904]

What is purpose of this thread?

You telling that you have seen many crucial bugs, but you don't say which ones. You saying bosses are bugged, but you don't mention them.

I think there is no "bug free" server in the world. Everywhere you can find something.

[Chunass 14]

Also, how can you have so many basic problems with your core after so many years of people actively testing it on Valkyrie realm?

Because it's not the same core as Valkyrie. Open testing for this core has existed for just over a week. The devs certainly have time to fix the issues you mentioned before people reach 60.

[Yenza 173]

After testing it a little bit on PTR and looking at bug reports I feel like the server will be pretty buggy to be completely honest. Things like NPCs/bosses in dungeons which are supposed to be summoned with quest (item) yet they are there spawned or many bosses like Vectus in Scholomance not saying anything and when you attack him he doesn't aggro whole room or few bosses in MC being utterly bugged make me question myself if I really want to start playing on Elysium. Am I wrong in my predictions? If yes, then please enlighten me. Also, how can you have so many basic problems with your core after so many years of people actively testing it on Valkyrie realm? I mean that it's pretty easy to spot the things I've mentioned right off the bat and they're pretty crucial to end game PvE so I don't believe no one reported them years ago.

I've been watching PTR streams as well as movies on Youtube and I agree with your statement. There are a lot of unfinished touches to this realm. THIS IS NOT VALKYRIE. This is (from what I've seen) a brand new core with a lot of issues that Valkyrie does not have. I've seen bugs in the videos that I fixed back in the day when I worked on Valkyrie. Some people doesn't seem to understand that Elysium and Valkyrie is not the same thing... you can't compare them and you definitely can't say that "it works on Valkyrie therefor it will work on Elysium." 

[Xudojnik 904]

So we need second bugtracker?

[Yenza 173]

So we need second bugtracker?

Isn't that what this is?

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showproject=36

 

[Queeky 58]

You state many things, yet bring no evidence to support your claims, Angren.

Vague statements with no proof attached to then might as well be disregarded. Considering you didn't even bother to explain your issues in greater detail, or back up your claims via various types of evidence, or patch-appropriate text fragments, it is safe to say your post is flawed. What I mean to say by this is that there's no point in complaining if you won't bother explaining why. In short, if you feel something is wrong with the realm's core or scripts, please report the issue on our bug tracker, which can be accessed by clicking the "Tracker" button in the top menu.

Sincerely, Queeky.

[Xudojnik 904]

I still dont understand why devs doing same work again.

[Yenza 173]

I still dont understand why devs doing same work again.

My guess is that they wanted an updated core from the bottom. To clean out all the old stuff and then transfer fixes (or rewrite them) in to a new cleaner structure for the Elysium one. That is why the PTR tracker mentions issues that's been fixed before.

In practice this is a really good idea! I'm just concerned that the time to transfer/rewrite it all to match the Valkyrie state will take more time than to have it working for the release date :/

Edited August 11, 2016 by Yenza

[Axon 65195]

3 cores:

 

Valkyrie - the old-old core with a deep and difficult problems. Some problems have been missed by players, because it was not interested, or their fixes was not possible at that time.

Elysium - based on the Valkyrie Core and some open-source/private patches and solutions from all kinds of add-ons. Fixes the most critical bugs.

Valkyrie 2 - new core with technologies 2014-2016 year, using the boost library, the new packet send-recv system. The purpose - stability, optimization, and full synchronization of client-server. The new movement, spell, scripting system. It is expected that this core will replace all existing cores at release of Ahn'Qiraj.

 

Therefore, it is quite possible that the Elysium will be bugs that have been fixed on the Valkyrie is not quite correct way, which is no longer applicable to a method of fixes on Elysium. Similarly, there will be bugs that are fixed in the Elysium, but not fixed for Valkyrie.

[Yenza 173]

Thanks Axon! Needed this info.

[Angren 1]

You state many things, yet bring no evidence to support your claims, Angren.

Vague statements with no proof attached to then might as well be disregarded. Considering you didn't even bother to explain your issues in greater detail, or back up your claims via various types of evidence, or patch-appropriate text fragments, it is safe to say your post is flawed. What I mean to say by this is that there's no point in complaining if you won't bother explaining why. In short, if you feel something is wrong with the realm's core or scripts, please report the issue on our bug tracker, which can be accessed by clicking the "Tracker" button in the top menu.

Sincerely, Queeky.

 

No reason to get offended, I just shared my concerns regarding the upcoming server and I had no idea it's a different core. There is no reason to back up anything I've mentioned since everything is on BT so I'm not pulling it out of nowhere. Let me mention few of them if you don't believe me then.

 

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2873

 

"I find that a lot of mobs that should be able to be mind controlled like the orcs in LBRS immune to mind-control. I still haven't found a mob in dungeons to mind control and will keep testing later. 

 

Also when the mind control is used on an immune mob, you pull the whole pack except the one that was immune. Making the fight more trivial and someone with more brains than I, will use this to exploit somehow."

 

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2839

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2848

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2882

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2883

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2884

[Aymira 0]

No reason to get offended, I just shared my concerns regarding the upcoming server and I had no idea it's a different core. There is no reason to back up anything I've mentioned since everything is on BT so I'm not pulling it out of nowhere. Let me mention few of them if you don't believe me then.

 

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2873

 

"I find that a lot of mobs that should be able to be mind controlled like the orcs in LBRS immune to mind-control. I still haven't found a mob in dungeons to mind control and will keep testing later. 

 

Also when the mind control is used on an immune mob, you pull the whole pack except the one that was immune. Making the fight more trivial and someone with more brains than I, will use this to exploit somehow."

 

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2839

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2848

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2882

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2883

https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?app=tracker&showissue=2884

 

ah, these are bad news

[j9a2per1990 32]

I think.. DEVs need more time. Hm, hm Elysium have too much minor/major bugs and this is bad for new server, for his reputation and his reputation is essential. Maybe defer the start date is best solution. What do you think guys about this, guys?

Edited August 11, 2016 by j9a2per1990

[That Druid 6]

I think that the best opportunity for Elysium is showing radical changes over short periods of time and maybe giving some non-blizzlike features (even though I don't like it). The later is doubtful, for sure, but keep in mind that it is decided to use 1.12 database, so if the server is not that authentic already and it can't really compete with better servers in quality of progression, maybe it will be more reasonable to play around it's non-blizzlike part somehow. Also there is not much time left before the release of another, you already know it's name, project. Unless that another new project dies before release like another famous old tbc project does :^)

 

Whatever, it's a nice idea just to give players the reason to stay here.

[Yenza 173]

I would say that if the devs can put their heads together and solve all critical stuff for the 1-40 levels before launch then we will be good! In this case they will get some more days to fix the 40-58 levels before heading on to the end game.

Note that with the launch a bunch of new reports will show up so I would, in all honesty, like to see the PTR testing more wide and the tracker empty before an launch date is announced alas that has already happen x)

[Marathon 9]

I think that the best opportunity for Elysium is showing radical changes over short periods of time and maybe giving some non-blizzlike features (even though I don't like it). The later is doubtful, for sure, but keep in mind that it is decided to use 1.12 database, so if the server is not that authentic already and it can't really compete with better servers in quality of progression, maybe it will be more reasonable to play around it's non-blizzlike part somehow. Also there is not much time left before the release of another, you already know it's name, project. Unless that another new project dies before release like another famous old tbc project does :^)

 

Whatever, it's a nice idea just to give players the reason to stay here.

The problem with vanilla is lack of documentation on stats, so good luck finding stats of things from 1.0 WoW

[Kadir 136]

Haha, some ppl would like to have everything even BEFORE server officially launched. This lists which you presented here includes lots of things already fixed on Valkyrie so for sure devs know how to do it. Also they still have old archived reports about those topics (written by many ppl from my guild), so there's nothing like a lack of information. We searched it once already.

[Angren 1]

Haha, some ppl would like to have everything even BEFORE server officially launched. This lists which you presented here includes lots of things already fixed on Valkyrie so for sure devs know how to do it. Also they still have old archived reports about those topics (written by many ppl from my guild), so there's nothing like a lack of information. We searched it once already.

 

Doesn't matter if it's fixed on Valkyrie. It'a a completely different core on Elysium as you can see. 

[Kadir 136]

 

 

Doesn't matter if it's fixed on Valkyrie. It'a a completely different core on Elysium as you can see. 

 

You missed something. When an issue was corrected once already, there's higher chance that it might be easly corrected again, right? They still have time. 

[Angren 1]

Depends on how different the cores are. They still have time but SO FAR I haven't seen any fixes in recent days befor the launch.

[Queeky 58]

The fixes conducted over the past few days have not been made available to the general public yet. Regardless, please refer to this and this if you have any server-related issues to report and you want to receive the development team's attention in a timely manner.

Sincerely, Queeky.