Custom PvP Brackets

[Jauz 6]

Dear Staff & PvP Community,

 

I am posting here to help keep this server kicking and to give the PvP community tangible goals to work towards. 

 

Let me start off by mentioning that I am aware the honor calculations are working correctly and this is not a post about any bugs regarding weekly honor calculation.

 

 

Since the server launch there has only been one week that has allowed for standing one to gain the proper 13k RP for bracket one (Alliance side) - And... that was with three extra days in the week and a world boss spawn. This is of course due to the lack of players being counted in standing for each week. I have been in talks with members of staff and players about taking steps to improve the total standing each week and it is just not working. 

 

I am proposing that we have an adjustment to the total standing for both factions to accommodate the server population. The ideal number of spots for bracket one would be four, so for this scenario, let's aim for two...

That would require a minimum total standing of 504 players or 667 to get a roughly even 2.0 in the calculations. This would give us 67 players that can earn over 7k RP for the week. 7k RP is the amount of RP players need to rank up if you are right around rank six - which is the point at which decay really starts to become a factor in the ranking. 

 

 

If we fix the standing at 667 players we get:

  2 spots for Br1 (12-13k RP)

  3 spots for Br2 (11-12k RP)

  8 spots for Br3 (10-11k RP)

10 spots for Br4 (9-10k RP)

17 spots for Br5 (8-9k RP)

27 spots for Br6 (7-8k RP)

 

 

Now I know this is not blizzlike...

but what WAS blizzlike? 

Servers with low population got deleted and players were offered free transfers - so I think that this is a great solution to fix the issue which is the same goal blizzard had when they decided to move players. 

This is a solution that I feel will provide an incentive for more players to PvP - and will finally give the PvP community a realistic chance of obtaining ranks 11-14.

I hope you will seriously consider this and I look forward to hearing any more info later.

Best,
Jauz

 

[ZC209 0]

would be better its bad enough BG's don't pop for hours so its hard to rank as is.

[Kerso 0]

Im for this

[swertie 0]

I agree with this completely. Having a lower requirement makes perfect sense with a lower population. It increases the likely-hood that people will want to rank and that in-turn will help retain the server population, while also having the double effect of recruiting new players that are looking to pvp.

[Motorbreath 923]

Yeah. Breakpoints are there exactly for the reason.

So it would not be too easy to get the higher ranks.

Because the lower population equals the less competition.

Suddenly makes sense, doesn't it?

Population is the root of the problem, so whining in attempt to tweak the system and "attract people" or so at least you could get your rewards...

Well it's basically putting a cart before the horse - either ignorant or plain stupid. Because it won't solve the initial problem.

But no - let's change the system. Let's think with our own epicless butt instead [and I said "butt" here - don't censor me].

What people tend to ignore for some reason while proposing such changes, is that you will probably increase people's interest in battlegrounds indeed. Some people's interest that is.

But, by doing so, you will unavoidably make the blizzlike crowd more likely to leave. And if you think, that there is just a couple of us here, at the blizzlike server... Think better?

If you want to make the server better, start doing something in accordance with it's goals and interests instead of your own.

If you wanna change something, then change the population - promote the server, attract new people, keep calm and play the game at the very least.

Stop whining.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Motorbreath

[Jauz 6]

Yeah. Breakpoints are there exactly for the reason.

So it would not be too easy to get the higher ranks.

Because the lower population equals the less competition.

Suddenly makes sense, doesn't it?

Population is the root of the problem, so whining in attempt to tweak the system and "attract people" or so at least you could get your rewards...

Well it's basically putting a cart before the horse - either ignorant or plain stupid. Because it won't solve the initial problem.

But no - let's change the system. Let's think with our own epicless butt instead [and I said "butt" here - don't censor me].

What people tend to ignore for some reason while proposing such changes, is that you will probably increase people's interest in battlegrounds indeed. Some people's interest that is.

But, by doing so, you will unavoidably make the blizzlike crowd more likely to leave. And if you think, that there is just a couple of us here, at the blizzlike server... Think better?

If you want to make the server better, start doing something in accordance with it's goals and interests instead of your own.

If you wanna change something, then change the population - promote the server, attract new people, keep calm and play the game at the very least.

Stop whining.

 

I couldn't agree more. I have tried to help out with promoting the server and I have made tremendous efforts to promote pvp. It hasn't worked - this is just an idea to help out. 

I'm not sure why you are attacking me here, you know absolutely nothing about me or what I have done for this server. I have promoted - I am apart of the best guild on the server which is at least 40+ core players. I stream content and promote in my stream. I might actually be the only person in discord that doesn't say dead server every 5 minutes. You are picking a fight with your own team here. 

What is your solution? Where are your efforts? What can you do to help with this problem?

Let's stop talking smack and start having a legitimate discussion about how to make this happen

The server has been declining by the hundreds rapidly - it soon will be literally IMPOSSIBLE to get passed rank 12 maybe even rank 11.

IMPOSSIBLE.... Is that what you want?

This solution is not to make ranking easier, it's to make it possible. That is all

Edited October 19, 2016 by Jauz

[Xudojnik 904]

I heard this talk recently.
"Low pvp population" is when you have 100 people in weekly standing and r14 is not possible at all.

Translate this thread if you want to know how to increase amount of players in standing.

Edited October 19, 2016 by Xudojnik

[levran 146]

Then this thread wanna be translated too, lol.

Edited October 19, 2016 by levran

[Kadir 136]

Would be nice to get the info from administration about the quantity of ppl inside the honor standing for both factions since armory is not yet done. Then we would know how many events / raid vs raid fighting we would have to organise.

[Motorbreath 923]

...this is just an idea to help out. 

I'm not sure why you are attacking me here...

No one is attacking you - I just explained why your idea won't help.

 

...you know absolutely nothing about me or what I have done for this server. I have promoted - I am apart of the best guild on the server which is at least 40+ core players. I stream content and promote in my stream. I might actually be the only person in discord that doesn't say dead server every 5 minutes. You are picking a fight with your own team here.

True. I haven't seen anything but talking yet. Maybe it's my fault, or maybe it's not.

And as long as you propose anything that includes changing the rules and trying to justify it with low pop and your inability to to get some rewards as a result, we won't be in the same team.

 

What is your solution? Where are your efforts? What can you do to help with this problem?

Let's stop talking smack and start having a legitimate discussion about how to make this happen

There are no solutions nor efforts from me. But, you see, I'm not the one whining about the current situation here. I don't have to do anything to be right.

I already told you how to make this happen, didn't I? And you told me about your tremendous efforts, so what do I know, that you don't anyway?

Try to invite people, make premades, maybe coordinate the time with the opposite faction to que at the same time?

There's still no guarantee, that it will work though. Just a couple ideas off the top of my head.

 

The server has been declining by the hundreds rapidly - it soon will be literally IMPOSSIBLE to get passed rank 12 maybe even rank 11.

IMPOSSIBLE.... Is that what you want?

This solution is not to make ranking easier, it's to make it possible. That is all

The horror! Wait. No it's not. R10 will be still available, and you won't even have to change anything.

And - as a bonus - you will also know, that this is exactly the appropriate reward for you in the current online.

I'm okay with the system. It's fair. Nobody promised, that everything would be possible.

In fact, the system has this mechanism built into it that way exactly to make sure, that higher ranks would not be available with current standing. So be it.

 

As of increasing server population... Keep up the good work, no hard feelings.

[Kadir 136]

 

The horror! Wait. No it's not. R10 will be still available, and you won't even have to change anything.

And - as a bonus - you will also know, that this is exactly the appropriate reward for you in the current online.

I'm okay with the system. It's fair. Nobody promised, that everything would be possible.

 

Let's try to see the result of advertising the server if we will get questions about the possibility of getting rank 14 and the answer would be "No".

[Eyedie1 1]

Honestly before we make any blizzlike changes - I would want to see how the population changes after the 4th-5th November when Blizz-con is finished. I don't know how many or if it might even make a difference. But it could be possible that population is low as people don't want to level (finishing leveling) or get gear because they COULD have a chance at starting a new character for a Legacy Server.

 

Now I think this is a load of bull**** but I can't help but think maybe some people are just waiting for Legacy servers / Corecraft 2.0. 

 

If there is no change to population - it could be a nice idea but I don't know how efficiently it would help the server?

[killerduki 54]

don't change anything outside blizzlike spirit .

 

if you don't want to fail again.

 

Server start to recover after the fail pathfinding and rollback fix.

 

let keep it that way.