Is warrior a good choice for a first time vanilla raider?

[Undertanker 88]

Not as much when they are swinging nightfall.   While MC and BWL have a lot of Solo or 1-2 tanking bosses, 3 for Val if your dps is low,   AQ40 will highlight the benefit of having 3-4 dedicated tanks on some fights.

 

I'm with you on having the 4th tank as feral is nice or a pally, as they can be decurse / cleanse bots, spot healers on some fights, but again an OT not doing anything atm can help nightfall uptime greatly which you have a couple people swinging it.

 

 

When it comes to Naxx though, for best raid setup, it can differ per fight and you will want to have your alts or other guild members on standby logged outside the instance when/if needed.

[Demonthese 0]

4 dedicated warrior tanks is really overkill. 3 is pushing it but ok I guess if you want some depth for emergencies. Those last spots are much more efficient to have a feral or pull a fury into really.

This I would say would be dependent on how quickly you are pushing progression. The server I am coming from we pushed a fresh guild from MC to 5 bosses down in AQ40 in about 2.5 months. Obviously our gear was rather low for AQ40 so it really helped having 4-5 Prot warriors.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Demonthese

[Lothbrok 0]

Thank you guys for all your responses again. I knew tanking in Vanilla required a lot of dedication, but I dint know it was that hard (I've tanked a lot of 5 man dungeons, but I am definitely not well-versed in tank theory or theorycrafting). I will be rolling a healer class and hope to learn enough to tank in the future.

[Undertanker 88]

@OP:

 

 

Play what intrigues you.

[Rektar 0]

I've never even played Vanilla but I'm still going to go down the tank path. You'll never learn if you don't try

[Draegon 1]

We don't do this because we hate you... we do this because we LOOOVVVEEE you!

[Pmizz 0]

Explain? I'm curious since I want to play tank as well but I never played vanilla

 

It's just hard like can't explain how hard it is compared to retial.

 

And when your inexperience shows it signals a 5 man dungeon may just be a waste of time to other members.

 

A DPS class can just follow along and learn Vanilla much better.

 

 

That said pick Warrior and just be honest and patient with what you know, it's hard but only compared to every other class, it's not a hard task in a general difficulty sense.

Edited December 4, 2016 by Pmizz

[Pmizz 0]

 

 

Once you hit 60, there are two options for raiding.  You can tank, or you can DPS.  Tanking requires a huge commitment.  No guild worth joining is going to give you an MT or OT spot if you cannot consistently make raids.  You might be able to get an OT2/OT3 spot, but those are usually fury warriors who have farmed up reasonable tanking gear.  For MT/OT, you need to be well-versed in tank theory.  Threat mechanics, rage mechanics, avoidance vs. mitigation vs. stacked hp and when each is appropriate, various boss strategies your guild might want to use, etc.  It's very rewarding (both emotionally and in terms of loot), but it's a lot of work as well.  If you want to DPS instead, Fury warriors do great damage... if you're geared.  But while every class depends on gearing for optimal DPS, Fury warriors are the most gear dependent.  Also, as a fury warrior, you may be expected to keep a set of tanking gear for fights where you need 3 or 4 tanks.  Your DPS gear is not going to work for those occasions, because your ideal DPS gear is mostly leather.  So it means farming up and carrying around 2 sets of gear as well as being passably conversant with the theorycrafting for both fury and prot.

 

 

 

This sums it up

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

You really shouldn't click dat "Warrior" button,  except if you are a hardcore gamer. (in the sense you're ready to devote a really significant playing time to hit). Otherwise your Vanilla WOW experience will have a lot in common with Dark Souls.

 

Source : being a low-average skill but high playing time Warrior for 1 year and a half of Nostalrius.

 

You've been warned

Edited December 4, 2016 by (TheReal) Krom

[FrankieWuzHere 0]

Hi there

 

I've played Vanilla back in the day and sometimes in some private servers, still I never reached 60. The only experience I have raiding is in TBC as Warlock and I didn't find it that difficult, but I believe this is due I was playing the post nerf version. This time i'm fully committed to see all the end content. However Im afraid of my class choice, I want to pick a class that can let me progress without investing too much time (college). I mentioned Warrior in my question because I have a 55 Warrior in Old Nost and I enjoyed a lot tanking the dungeons available to my level, but I know tanking in higher levels involves much more knowledge, responsibility and some other things. 

 

I will be starting again in the fresh sever because I've never experimented such thing and I don't know if Warrior will help me to reach my goal. My other options are Priest and Shaman, I've never healed before, but I think this will be easier than tanking. Thanks for reading and your answer.

Well as a Warrior tank you use Sunder armor if I remember right on bosses and big adds to get/keep aggro... Leaves a lot of room to focus on the mechanics of the fight that way. 

 

(Healers usually are more stressful to control. You need to focus on keeping everyone alive (Depending on who you have to heal) and if a healer dies then you need to try to pick up their group they were healing as well.) 

 

If you want an easy class to learn mechanics I wouldn't try out a healer... Maybe not even a tank knowing some fights...

 

I'd recommend playing as any of the ranged like dps.

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

In fact ...

 

WARRIOR CONS (80% of your experience, bad gear) :

 

- Hard levelling time (only 1vs1 mobs and some may kill u, then wait the eating regen)

- No survivability, all health point is lost to death

- No way to grind money

- High repair costs

- PVP to PVE or PVE to PVP ? Respec $$ (also mean to farm 2 sets)

- No real PVE Tier sets unless for Tanks, so most War raid gear will just feed your Tanks

- Worst solo PVP (can kill other Warriors and roflstomp bad Rogues)

- PVP need epic weapon wich need PVE raids wich need wanting to roll and compete for 2H in dual wield spec = GG

- Clunky and noob unfriendly gameplay (may be subjective)

- Paladin or Frost mage ? Most of the time you better AFK

- ...

 

WARRIOR PROS (20% of your experience, good gear) :

 

- most BADASS looking gear, weapons and sets

- Epic gear and pocket healer / premade = godlike. 2H Sword spec. Mortal Strike. Might feel powerful every 30 min with "I win" CD.

- rewarding, difficulty feeling

- excellent gear scaling

- dem ccrits on noob rogues. (Rogue being always overpopulated and rather noob friendly being a plus)

 

Roast me for I spoke the Truth.

[Jeetee 2]

The op should play warrior if he wants. Don't worry about what people think. Yes, you will be a noob, who cares? Chose warrior and stick with it.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Jeetee

[Elviss 5]

Explain? I'm curious since I want to play tank as well but I never played vanilla

To put it simple, you can get some basic ideas by watching other players tank while you heal/dps, you can ask them questions, read guides and watch videos but it is like asking someone to tell you how to learn to swim. He can tell you all he knows, you can see all guides and videos, but till you start trying to do it your self, you won't really learn it.

 

More importantly, imo, is how do you handle the pressure? Because, let's be honest, at least 50% of randoms that you will get in your party are not exactly most tolerant and patient(to prove my point there, just look at shitstorm surrounding Elysium release date announcement). They will all blame you when things go sideways, regardless of what they were doing, was right or wrong, no matter, they will still blame you.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Elviss

[Undertanker 88]

just look at shitstorm surrounding Elysium release date announcement). 

 

The loud and rude and demanding are a small annoying few compared to the player-base.    I see non of the vets "b i tc h-fitting".  

Edited December 5, 2016 by Undertanker

[Elviss 5]

That is true. Louder are always easier to spot, but regardless of who's right here, you or me, those ill mannered creatures that pollute private servers will be there and new tank will have to deal with them, sooner or later. Make a note, even if it's just 10%, we are talking about 2k people, approximately, on Elysium,

 

I'm just pointing out that he should be ready for that.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Elviss