Danko 1 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 Hi! Since im gonna play a pally, and im gonna have to heal for raids (aka going holy) im interested in knowing if i will be able to defend myself in the open world. I heard that in bgs i'll be fine, but how about world pvp? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcer 8 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 I too want to know this. I'd like to be able to play an optimal healing spec but I heard a lot about holy/reck builds 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravens 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 No you won't be able to do anything if you don't have reckoning or are ret. Paladins are easy targets for shammies, warlocks, mages and the other classes have easy match ups too. So if you go full holy you can maybe kill a super terrible player with green gear but besides that you have to go another build. However, no healer can really defend themselves in the world if they're an optimal raid healing build. That's why most people put enough points to heal and the rest for PvP. Paladins only really need 20 points in holy to heal effectively unlike other classes so they put the rest in prot or ret or a mix. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danko 1 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 No you won't be able to do anything if you don't have reckoning or are ret. Paladins are easy targets for shammies, warlocks, mages and the other classes have easy match ups too. So if you go full holy you can maybe kill a super terrible player with green gear but besides that you have to go another build. However, no healer can really defend themselves in the world if they're an optimal raid healing build. That's why most people put enough points to heal and the rest for PvP. Paladins only really need 20 points in holy to heal effectively unlike other classes so they put the rest in prot or ret or a mix. Can you link me a talen tree that is good for both pvp and pve? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ravens 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2016 Depends what you wanna do. If you wanna tank 5 mans and be more tanky in PvP against rogues/warriors than swap to a 2h for casters theres: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxuoxZVGtIMzxo If you wanna go ret you can go 21/0/30 or 20/0/31 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxuoxZZxfztrcqo or a mix like this focused on a 1h http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxubgoZVGtcc0x There's also this which is worse at healing but u get to use seal of command http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxzZVGtzc0xZx0xp I would just look at how you wanna play and try different stuff but paladins can heal fine in raids because they always get 1.5 FoL even with zero points in holy. I just use rank 1 FoL with + healing gear and you will conserve a lot of mana (80%+) but still do great healing and than when a fight comes to the end or something goes wrong you will still have plenty of mana to heal while other healers will be oom cause they over heal too much. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFishyOne 9 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 No, but the utility you bring to a group simply can't be beat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El_Risitas 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 Weapon swaps now delete your reckbomb charges, i think this was not mentioned in patchnotes... so Holy/Reckbomb spec is not that fun anymore. :/ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pichler 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 Is this blizzlike or a bug? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stif 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 get those rocket boots asap if you wana live 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asherdoom 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2016 pala holy will loose in 1v1 vs everything. you got heals and bubbles ofc but your damage is comparable to a critter. a warrior will just mortal strike you down till chopping off your healt and when you bubbl he bandage himself back up. rogue same story, after bubble youre dead meat mage can nuke you down in a counterspell time. shadow priest aswell will aman burn to death and then eat you . If you wish a 1v1 class dont roll paldin 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites