DerRonny 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) Hi all, my actual weapon setup is Deathbringer in mainhand and Fellstriker in offhand with Edgemasters (9% hit without Edgemasters, 27.83% crit in zerker stance and 738ap completely unbuffed). I have a good chance on Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos if it drops... What would be the best setup then? I am thinking of Crul'shorukh in the offhand and Deathbringer in mainhand. Or would it better to get a Dooms Edge and wear Crul'shorukh in mainhand? Edit: I play Nightelf Edited August 31, 2017 by DerRonny Additional Information 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storfan 24 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, DerRonny said: Hi all, my actual weapon setup is Deathbringer in mainhand and Fellstriker in offhand with Edgemasters (9% hit without Edgemasters, 27.83% crit in zerker stance and 738ap completely unbuffed). I have a good chance on Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos if it drops... What would be the best setup then? I am thinking of Crul'shorukh in the offhand and Deathbringer in mainhand. Or would it better to get a Dooms Edge and wear Crul'shorukh in mainhand? As an Orc (and horde) I'd go with DB in MH and Crul's in OH because WF scales very well with slow weapons. It is a tough choice though. Omakaronis sheet may give some better pointers. I dont know if he have a tested and confirmed proc for DB in the sheet though. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haestingas 30 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 Its a huge dps loss for the raid if you use DB, every time that thing procs the raid loses 350-1000 dmg due to eating up an improved shadowbolt. You want to use Crul with Dooms edge, its the same dps for you and far more dps for the guild as a whole. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storfan 24 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Haestingas said: Its a huge dps loss for the raid if you use DB, every time that thing procs the raid loses 350-1000 dmg due to eating up an improved shadowbolt. You want to use Crul with Dooms edge, its the same dps for you and far more dps for the guild as a whole. How so? The shadowbolt from DB doesnt apply a buff, its simply a damage spell? or am I missing something? If that is the case then yes, Crul+Dooms would be better. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerRonny 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 It should be just a Shadowbolt, no debuff on the target or something else. Thanks guys! Edit: Sorry, haven't understand it correctly :D 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haestingas 30 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Storfan said: How so? The shadowbolt from DB doesnt apply a buff, its simply a damage spell? or am I missing something? If that is the case then yes, Crul+Dooms would be better. There's a T1 destruction warlock talent that every warlock uses, where every time their shadowbolts crit it applies a debuff and it's called Improved Shadowbolt. This debuff increases shadow damage dealt to the mob by 20% by the next 4 non periodic shadow damage sources. The DB proc is a non periodic shadow damage source and eats 1 of the 4 charges on the debuff that would otherwise effect a shadowbolt. In my old guild Reign we had a ton of warriors using DB until we got enough Cruls. Once we all switched to Crul our warlock dps had a noticeable increase while the warrior dps stayed the same or got better. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storfan 24 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Haestingas said: There's a T1 destruction warlock talent that every warlock uses, where every time their shadowbolts crit it applies a debuff and it's called Improved Shadowbolt. This debuff increases shadow damage dealt to the mob by 20% by the next 4 non periodic shadow damage sources. The DB proc is a non periodic shadow damage source and eats 1 of the 4 charges on the debuff that would otherwise effect a shadowbolt. In my old guild Reign we had a ton of warriors using DB until we got enough Cruls. Once we all switched to Crul our warlock dps had a noticeable increase while the warrior dps stayed the same or got better. No shit huh. TIL I guess. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haestingas 30 Report post Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Storfan said: No shit huh. TIL I guess. Yeah I had no idea either until a warlock lost his shit on TS when he saw we had 7 deathbringers in guild eating the debuff. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trym 1 Report post Posted September 2, 2017 On 2017-08-31 at 7:56 PM, Storfan said: How so? The shadowbolt from DB doesnt apply a buff, its simply a damage spell? or am I missing something? If that is the case then yes, Crul+Dooms would be better. Before BWL Death bringer did not shoot shadowbolts, It put a debuff on the target dealing about 10 shadow dmg every few sec for about 20-30 sec. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites