Sonfanna 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 So... I am trying to sell something in world or have a conversation with someone in party and I randomly get suspended for no reason. Isn't there a more reasonable way to manage that? I'm not a gold farmer or anything, just using chat for what it is meant to be used for :/ I would wait before typing in world too! I've just never seen such an ocd chat filter, it is too much. Please make it more reasonable :D 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yacopok 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 I was about to make the same post. Please turn off the spam filter in Raid, Party, Guild chat and maybe whispers provided both people are on each others friend's list or are from the same guild. The current state is so annoying I cannot even distribute loot in raids because I get muted after two raid warnings... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kailas 5 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 Agreed , annoying as hell. Cant post assignments in raid or post dmg meters. One line macro sucks 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gnifty 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Blocking hackers/cheaters/spammers is not the answer, if you show them a wall they will climb it. Subterfuge is the only way to get ahead in this battle. Think back to how blizzard used to do this, they'd analyze data and ban in large batches. They did it that way for a reason. Allow me to explain. Let's take chat muting for example, they can quickly figure out what they did to trigger this, and then they adjust their behavior to get around it. Before you had X accounts spamming Y messages, and then after rudimentary blocking logic you'll likely end up with something like (X*10) accounts each spamming (Y/10) messages. They'll spin up more VM's, utilize more proxies, run more accounts, whatever they can do. That's a crude example, but you get the idea. You can never win this battle without severely crippling your legitimate players. I speak from experience as a serverside game dev, so I'll explain a bit about some better methodology. A basic example of a more effective approach is to let their whispers go through, but only show the whisper going through for them, don't actually send it to the recipient. You can further improve upon this by only letting it go through for the recipient if they're in the same IP subnet or some such, so that it's harder for them to detect if they test it with 2 of their accounts. It's pretty easy to eliminate false positives with detection logic if you aren't also trying to block them, because they get quite cavalier if they aren't aware they've been caught. It gets more complicated than this though, because eventually they figure out your shinanigans; after a while they wonder why noone has bothered banning them. You need to keep the status quo, send them on wild goose chases, make them think that they're fighting the good fight and winning. Ban them once in a while, mute them once in a while, and try not to make the pattern obvious. After a while, these guys end up wasting more time getting nowhere than you do dealing with them. Don't get me wrong, this isn't an IWIN button, but it's the only hope you have of stopping them without breaking rule #1: don't screw over your legit players. Edited January 4, 2017 by Gnifty 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lawinn 9 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 I agree with what has been said above, it gets really annoying, especially when you're Raid leader or simply talking to a friend in game instead of using Vocal softwares. @Admins It is nonsense to block restrict the chat on long-term, but I can imagine you guys did that to slow the gold seller spam until you got a better solution. Maybe banning them for a short period is a solution, since you cannot ban all these hacked accounts permanently. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr. Walnaut d.Faux 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 also, after relog, i can't type in general chat (it's as if i'm in it, but i am not). only fixed after i restart the pc. might as well be just me 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papertank 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mr. Walnaut d.Faux said: also, after relog, i can't type in general chat (it's as if i'm in it, but i am not). only fixed after i restart the pc. might as well be just me just /leave channel and reenter it. Edited January 4, 2017 by Papertank Spelling 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironskillet2 2 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 Just allow unlimited chats in guild, party, and raid. that should significantly help as far as whispers go, if its possible to program it in a way where 2 people who have each other in their friends list can send unlimited whispers 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
