Rezzing Landro Longshot Loot for $$$ Donation(s)

[Facepalm 0]

I had a couple of items from the TCG I would love to have on this server. I would be willing to donate a nice sum to be able to get my Ethereal Trader and Owned! flag items. Could be a cash cow for you seeing as how there are items of permanent use and those with charges on them.

Do you have the algorithms as part of the source by chance? If not, do you have access to the loot items to spawn?

PM me if you would like to talk about that donation for those items.

Thanks!

[Shiamorah 20]

I don't think they will allow this. As you might be able to tell, the server doesn't really have any opportunities such as paying or voting for items. 

If they did allow this sort of thing, they would have said something about it. This would give you an upper edge on players, even if it is a vanity item, because you'd be the only one to have it. 

[Ayruslol 1]

Get out LUL

[Facepalm 0]

In the original idea mentioned, if they have the algorithms then anyone who ever had any of the vanity items would have them here. I don't believe Blizz ever put anything out in the series that would give an unfair advantage ie. weps, armor, mats,etc.

It would be a good return on development time if they chose to set it up. I saw another server giving out vanity items for good donations. Don't see any harm in letting someone donate and getting a D.I.S.C.O ball lol. :)

[Shiamorah 20]

Just now, Facepalm said:

In the original idea mentioned, if they have the algorithms then anyone who ever had any of the vanity items would have them here. I don't believe Blizz ever put anything out in the series that would give an unfair advantage ie. weps, armor, mats,etc.

It would be a good return on development time if they chose to set it up. I saw another server giving out vanity items for good donations. Don't see any harm in letting someone donate and getting a D.I.S.C.O ball lol. :)

Accepting donations like this is just the first step to failure, I assure you!

[Shiamorah 20]

It allows for abuse of donations from staff, and also puts the server on much more of a watch by Blizzard. It's illegal to openly accept money for items, which is why they usually do it via votes or purchasing of tokens to then buy items. Servers that do this are targeted by Blizzard much more harshly than servers that don't. I assume every server you've been to that has done this has been shut down. Because in my experience, that is the case.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Shiamorah

[Shiamorah 20]

5 minutes ago, Henceforth said:

I do not support selling items. Landro Longshot Loot never gave any kind of advantage in game for players.

So far donations are working. I think if Elysium decides to launch a T-shirt or Mugs limited edition, that would come up with a random loot from from Landro Longshot for example (or fixed), it wouldn't hurt or be bad at all.

This would work very different from "you donated you gained" thing. Just saying.

All I know is you start selling items, regardless of what they are, and Blizzard gives more attention, because you start to profit off of the game. There are a lot of laws regarding this and make it much, much easier for them to take legal action.

[Shiamorah 20]

5 minutes ago, Henceforth said:

selling t-shirts and mugs and giving a tradecard loot for that doesn't mean profit at all. And your statement lacks of evidences and facts. You're just assuming that, which can be logical, but nothing is more logical than evidence and facts. List me all realms that sold t-shirts and mugs and all the buyers got a trading card game loot and was shut down "by Blizzard" ?

This thread is not about t-shirts and mugs, so please don't derail it. The very easy and basic fact here is that copyright law is very obviously violated when you use an in-game item and sell it for real money. How the item is obtained doesn't matter, they are the same. Buying items as a user is not something that Blizzard legally pursues, but they shut down servers that use in-game currency (items, gold, etc) for real life money. This is why servers tread a very thin line with donations to buy items, or purchasing tokens to then buy in-game items.

This isn't an argument, these are facts. If you look at any cease and desist order ever made by Blizzard, they always mention the use of in-game currency being exchanged for real life money. It's a very simple violation of law, which is why it is easy for Blizzard to pursue a cease and desist order.

[Shiamorah 20]

Just now, Henceforth said:

https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/828702309198635008

Again, you have no evidence or facts that sustain what you were saying. Therefore, I take your arguments as just your opinion, and I respect that.

This is a Blizzard feature. This has nothing to do with what I am saying at all. Blizzard owns the copyright for World of Warcraft, so they can do whatever they want. They can use in-game currency for real life money all they want. I am saying that from the very start the existence of a private server like this is illegal under copyright laws. If this server used in-game currency for real life money, it would be even more illegal, making it even easier for Blizzard to issue a cease and desist. They have more legal ground to do so, understand?

Even though the existence of this server is already technically illegal, you can do things that make it more illegal, and put it on Blizzard's radar. Using in-game currency for real life money is one of these.

[Shiamorah 20]

I literally just said that it is already illegal. :)

[Shiamorah 20]

1 minute ago, Henceforth said:

Illegal isn't quantified. It is, or it isn't. Anyway, you haven't brought a single fact about your claims. Think about that.

Actually, that is entirely incorrect. This is a very easy concept to understand.

Illegal server A has 100 population.

Illegal server B has 2000 population.

Blizzard will pursue server B first, obviously.

 

Illegal server A has no in-game currency for real life money, a direct violation of the law.

Illegal server B has in-game currency for real life money.

Blizzard will pursue server B first, obviously.

 

When you are performing an act like hosting a server that technically isn't allowed by the terms and conditions of a company, the best thing you can do is stay under their radar as much as possible. Allowing something like this puts you under their radar. It gives more wiggle room for shutting the server down. This just isn't going to happen, I guarantee it.

[Facepalm 0]

Wow-mania seems to be doing just fine with offering Landro Loot for donations:

http://www.wow-mania.com/forums/topic/474

Just saying - let's keep an open mind. I may want to fund a server for several months so I can relive some glory days with my Flag of Ownership.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Facepalm
Grammar

[Gehere 8]

If I started selling cold coffee, in Coca Cola branded bottles - using the exact same image and logo - how do you think The Coca Cola Company would respond?

And the FACT that I make money on this (assuming I could actually sell the product) makes it roughly a million times easier for The Coca Cola Company, to take legal actions against me.   In the eyes of the LAW.

That's fact.

[Facepalm 0]

It's your opinion, and your entitled to it. However, IMO you are either operating within the law or not as the convo in this thread has turned to. It's a little late for moralizing

While a great deal of opinion and not much fact has been rolled here, I did provide an example of an entity whom for a year and a half, has been conducting operations this way. Indicating, that this is nothing new and that a level of tolerance seems in place.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Facepalm
Grammar

[Nelythia 44]

Won't happen.

 

Would be cool for ingame gold tho.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Nelythia