Ironfoe, How Good?

[TheLoon 0]

I've read a ton of conflicting information regarding Ironfoe and how good it actual is on the Elysium servers.  I haven't been able to get one myself yet (although not for lack of trying), and wanted to know if there's any new test data or info that is trustworthy over some other posts.

 

Things I'm specifically interested in are:

1.  Actual Proc rate now- 3%, 5%, 10%, something else?

2.  Does it still work on abilities or just autos?

 

As a human with edgemaster's I think that this weapon may not be worth the grind anymore as numerous 50+ DPS raid weapons will outpace it if it just works on auto's. (My opinion)

 

Thanks!

 

 

[Storfan 24]

5% procrate, tested and confirmed.

EDIT: Cant link for some reason. Forum wont let me link to a thread in the same forum.

Edited March 1, 2017 by Storfan

[TheLoon 0]

Incorrect link?

 

As human with Edgemaster's and considering the 5% proc rate on Ironfoe is this even worth getting?  Should I just get Viskag+Brutality Blade until CTS and others become available?

 

Hell is Krol blade even on par due to the huge decrease in glancing dmg?

[Undertanker 88]

I have answered this twice in other threads.   Read a few dps threads.

[TheLoon 0]

2 hours ago, Undertanker said:

I have answered this twice in other threads.   Read a few dps threads.

With all due respect I've read numerous threads and there is massive amounts of conflicting responses and answers

 

2 hours ago, Ektelion said:

definitelly this. why waste gold on krol blade... just go dal'rends as usual and pray to RNGJESUS gods for vis'kag and brut blade

Thanks for the input!

[Undertanker 88]

"IF is 5% proc.   

With 100% Flurry uptime, you'll get 35 autos with MH.   40 possible globals, giving 75 possible procable abilities if you have enough rage to spam hamstring.

5% proc rate:

3.75 procs on average every minute. or 7.5 more auto attacks at very possible best.

Lets assume you are raid buffed w/ around 2k AP, should be autoing for about 500, 1200 crit.  we'll use 40% crit.  so you have 780 per auto.

That is an extra 5850 more damage in 60 seconds. (no reason to consider extra rage because with the numbers above I inferred infinite rage for hamstring spam as well).  /   97.5 DPS.  But you are giving yourself weaker bloodthrist, lower average up-time on crusader due to base weapon speed, and 2 less weapon skill from using the +5 racial only on the mace, vs +7 sword/axe/dagger that edge masters gives."

^ is assuming you hit with all your auto attacks, which you won't, and none of your hits were glances, which they will be.

 

In short, max world buffed, IF is good, normal raid buffed Onyxia / BWL level weapons are better.

 

[Storfan 24]

9 hours ago, TheLoon said:

Incorrect link?

 

As human with Edgemaster's and considering the 5% proc rate on Ironfoe is this even worth getting?  Should I just get Viskag+Brutality Blade until CTS and others become available?

 

Hell is Krol blade even on par due to the huge decrease in glancing dmg?

Trying to post link again:

Undertanker math probably checks out about right. Equal or better (sometimes worse) than some BWL-lvl weapons, depending on buffs, race, situation. If I were fury, human and with edgemasters I'd only switch my ironfoe for CTS, Viskag or Crul.

[Undertanker 88]

@Storfan

When you post links, a popup link at the bottom should show up, click the button that says only keep hyperlink. Or w/e it says.   It stops the white infinite loading popup box.

Edited March 2, 2017 by Undertanker

[Jeetee 2]

 Bwl quality when world buffed.

[TheLoon 0]

10 hours ago, Undertanker said:

"IF is 5% proc.   

With 100% Flurry uptime, you'll get 35 autos with MH.   40 possible globals, giving 75 possible procable abilities if you have enough rage to spam hamstring.

5% proc rate:

3.75 procs on average every minute. or 7.5 more auto attacks at very possible best.

Lets assume you are raid buffed w/ around 2k AP, should be autoing for about 500, 1200 crit.  we'll use 40% crit.  so you have 780 per auto.

That is an extra 5850 more damage in 60 seconds. (no reason to consider extra rage because with the numbers above I inferred infinite rage for hamstring spam as well).  /   97.5 DPS.  But you are giving yourself weaker bloodthrist, lower average up-time on crusader due to base weapon speed, and 2 less weapon skill from using the +5 racial only on the mace, vs +7 sword/axe/dagger that edge masters gives."

^ is assuming you hit with all your auto attacks, which you won't, and none of your hits were glances, which they will be.

 

In short, max world buffed, IF is good, normal raid buffed Onyxia / BWL level weapons are better.

 

Thanks for re-linking info.  IF would be 7 weapon skill lower than any swords (as human with Edgemaster's, which I am), I think I will just try to get Rend weapons asap and replace MH with Vis'kag.