Kathiea 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) <Cry Havoc> Whats this about? Cry Havoc is an endgame PvE and PvP focused guild. We have a friendly community and work at progression through raids during the week as we believe the weekend should be free to spend with friends and family. Our number 1 priority is our members having fun and working together as a team, whether that be in our WSG premades or our dungeon runs or in raids. Discord: https://discord.gg/wxz89fM What can you expect from us? Active member raiding core with active members in PvP totaling in around 100 members Laid back atmosphere Talkative and active discord Fair and non-preferential treatment for all members Guild sponsored BoE BiS items and profession help based on need/activity Fun and engaging atmosphere What we expect from you (if you wish to be on our raid core): Able to be active Able to make at least 90% of raids Bring consumables to every raid Bring resist gear when applicable Be on discord (mic not required) during raid times Have a non-toxic personality Current classes in demand: Druid - HIGH Hunter - MEDIUM Mage - LOW Shaman - MEDIUM Priest - HIGH Rogue - MEDIUM Warlock - HIGH Warrior - LOW NOTE: if your class is listed as LOW, don't hesitate to apply. Social, leveling, and exceptional applicants are always welcome regardless! We rotate players as they take breaks or can't make a raid night Raiding Info Current raid times - Wednesday/Thursday 2:30 server time with an optional day on Saturday 2:30 server time. Loot Distribution Method - DKP Recruitment Officers - Kathiea, Tristramn, and Noyu Feel free to contact any recruitment officer or message us on discord to hang out with us before deciding. Thanks. Edited March 27, 2017 by Kathiea 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiji 3 Report post Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Come get in on this Edited March 28, 2017 by Quiji 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearclawelysium 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 Pathetic, guild full of ninja looters and people who abuse other players i am guessing this is a new guild because until recently I have not seen it around but since it has been around, I've had nothing but bad experiences with the members of this guild who happen to be officers and coordinators. One instance is where tristramn who is listed as an officer spammed various members of my guild to join yours, when we denied he called us a colorful variety of names and threatened to blacklist us saying "when your guild collapses and you beg to join cry havoc, you won't get a spot" as for ninja looting, complaints are common regarding members of this guild. Noiro, beerrwizard, feartwo, pontificate. All have been marked and declared as ninja looters by several guilds on the server. Their place in cry havoc only indicates that the administration either condones this behavior or they simply don't care. Bottom line, toxic members and toxic guild. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 11 hours ago, Bearclawelysium said: Pathetic, guild full of ninja looters and people who abuse other players i am guessing this is a new guild because until recently I have not seen it around but since it has been around, I've had nothing but bad experiences with the members of this guild who happen to be officers and coordinators. One instance is where tristramn who is listed as an officer spammed various members of my guild to join yours, when we denied he called us a colorful variety of names and threatened to blacklist us saying "when your guild collapses and you beg to join cry havoc, you won't get a spot" as for ninja looting, complaints are common regarding members of this guild. Noiro, beerrwizard, feartwo, pontificate. All have been marked and declared as ninja looters by several guilds on the server. Their place in cry havoc only indicates that the administration either condones this behavior or they simply don't care. Bottom line, toxic members and toxic guild. I would say this is probably a troll. 1 post from this guy and its full of lies. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kathiea 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Bearclawelysium said: Pathetic, guild full of ninja looters and people who abuse other players i am guessing this is a new guild because until recently I have not seen it around but since it has been around, I've had nothing but bad experiences with the members of this guild who happen to be officers and coordinators. One instance is where tristramn who is listed as an officer spammed various members of my guild to join yours, when we denied he called us a colorful variety of names and threatened to blacklist us saying "when your guild collapses and you beg to join cry havoc, you won't get a spot" as for ninja looting, complaints are common regarding members of this guild. Noiro, beerrwizard, feartwo, pontificate. All have been marked and declared as ninja looters by several guilds on the server. Their place in cry havoc only indicates that the administration either condones this behavior or they simply don't care. Bottom line, toxic members and toxic guild. >account 6 hours old ✔ >1 post ✔ >wild accusations naming random people that were on with a /who ✔ >no proof of anything ✔ Good luck with recruiting for your guild, but from my knowledge, doing this on everyone's guild posts but yours is not a good way to go about doing that. Edited March 29, 2017 by Kathiea 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearclawelysium 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 Up until Monday you and the other poster Rage both had one post on this forum, your first in this thread. I made an account to bring to attention the toxicity of the guild you're running. Youre expected to deny all accusations, you're trying to get members of course you'll say im lying but it's you that will need the good luck recruiting for your guild with the reputation your bunch has brought upon themselves. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) I believe the burden of proof lies on the accuser. Where are your screenshots of your alleged "ninja-ing"? Who are these people that "marked.... as ninja looters"? You can make all the claims you want. But without proof of these claims, your credibility is nil. Learn to fucking troll better, gr8 b8 m8 8/8. Edit: Yes I just made this, I didn't realize I had to make a separate account to post on the forums but it makes sense. What doesn't make sense are these baseless claims. Did we hurt you in some way? Want a bandaid to make it better? Oh, and yes of course we will defend ourselves to your claims as they are false. What else would we do? Roll over on our backs because someone is poo-pooing us? Pfft. Edited March 29, 2017 by FearTwo 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearclawelysium 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, FearTwo said: I believe the burden of proof lies on the accuser. Where are your screenshots of your alleged "ninja-ing"? Who are these people that "marked.... as ninja looters"? You can make all the claims you want. But without proof of these claims, your credibility is nil. Learn to fucking troll better, gr8 b8 m8 8/8. Edit: Yes I just made this, I didn't realize I had to make a separate account to post on the forums but it makes sense. What doesn't make sense are these baseless claims. Did we hurt you in some way? Want a bandaid to make it better? Oh, and yes of course we will defend ourselves to your claims as they are false. What else would we do? Roll over on our backs because someone is poo-pooing us? Pfft. There was never a question about the burden of proof, by your name i see you were one of the accused ninja looters, I don't believe I need to remind you and all of your compatriots of all the items you've stolen from other players in dungeons. You assume because you have 3/5 or 4/5 guildies in your group you can get away with masterlooting and stealing items mid boss fights. Your defensiveness and aggressive response alone indicates your guilt. Regardless of what you say here and how you choose to defend yourselves you've all already created a lasting impression on many guilds on the server who have rightfully blacklisted you for your behaviors. I will not name them to avoid drama and this will be my last post here. The playerbase of elysium deserve to be aware of guilds like yours that are nothing but toxic to the community. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Bearclawelysium said: There was never a question about the burden of proof, by your name i see you were one of the accused ninja looters, I don't believe I need to remind you and all of your compatriots of all the items you've stolen from other players in dungeons. You assume because you have 3/5 or 4/5 guildies in your group you can get away with masterlooting and stealing items mid boss fights. Your defensiveness and aggressive response alone indicates your guilt. Regardless of what you say here and how you choose to defend yourselves you've all already created a lasting impression on many guilds on the server who have rightfully blacklisted you for your behaviors. I will not name them to avoid drama and this will be my last post here. The playerbase of elysium deserve to be aware of guilds like yours that are nothing but toxic to the community. LOL. Yep, being defensive indicates guilt. /s. Thank you for showing that you indeed have zero proof. You might as well have tossed your claims out the figurative window coming back here with nothing but more troll-spam. I wish you luck in your endeavours. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearclawelysium 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, FearTwo said: LOL. Yep, being defensive indicates guilt. /s. Thank you for showing that you indeed have zero proof. You might as well have tossed your claims out the figurative window coming back here with nothing but more troll-spam. I wish you luck in your endeavours. The proof is that half the server won't co op with your guild because they know the kind of people you are. Perhaps instead of replying to me with memes and 4chan slang you'd clean up your act or leave the guild so you quit shaming players who aren't scum like you and the aforementioned group. Unless the entire guild is the same in which case, good luck getting anywhere with that kind of attitude. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bearclawelysium said: The proof is that half the server won't co op with your guild because they know the kind of people you are. Perhaps instead of replying to me with memes and 4chan slang you'd clean up your act or leave the guild so you quit shaming players who aren't scum like you and the aforementioned group. Unless the entire guild is the same in which case, good luck getting anywhere with that kind of attitude. Again, more troll-spam. Thanks for continuing to provide vague claims and zero proof! :D "But the proof is there!!!! I swear!!!" - You 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lineupofpeace 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2017 Went on an MC run hosted by Cry Havoc last night - wiped so many times on trash before the first boss the entire raid needed to go and repair lmao. I guess all those items they ninja'd weren't very useful. Or maybe it was the MS warrior and Enh shaman that make up their core raid group. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tristramn 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2017 We hosted an MC that was half guild - half PUG. Our members are MORE THAN adequately geared to handle MC. However, admittedly, we were in need of players to fill the raid and we had to take what we could. One of which was an MS warrior, and the other was an enhancement shaman who was actively using Stormstrike. His name is Chunkles and is no way associated with Cry Havoc or its members. In an attempt to salvage the raid, (which couldn't be filled at the time we began pugging) Cry Havoc had changed its agenda to initiate the rest of the run as a trash run. Two BOE epics dropped - in addition to multiple lava cores and fiery cores. The epics included a T1 warrior and shaman belt, which were then /rolled for fairly and went to the highest roller. After the trash run was completed, everyone departed and no one had gotten saved. Cry Havoc takes its player interactions seriously, and while it wasn't a multi-boss down run, it was successful in the fact that a couple people got the chance to get their first pieces of T1. Thank you, Tristramn 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dyrewulf 0 Report post Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Tristramn said: We hosted an MC that was half guild - half PUG. Our members are MORE THAN adequately geared to handle MC. However, admittedly, we were in need of players to fill the raid and we had to take what we could. One of which was an MS warrior, and the other was an enhancement shaman who was actively using Stormstrike. His name is Chunkles and is no way associated with Cry Havoc or its members. In an attempt to salvage the raid, (which couldn't be filled at the time we began pugging) Cry Havoc had changed its agenda to initiate the rest of the run as a trash run. Two BOE epics dropped - in addition to multiple lava cores and fiery cores. The epics included a T1 warrior and shaman belt, which were then /rolled for fairly and went to the highest roller. After the trash run was completed, everyone departed and no one had gotten saved. Cry Havoc takes its player interactions seriously, and while it wasn't a multi-boss down run, it was successful in the fact that a couple people got the chance to get their first pieces of T1. Thank you, Tristramn You know, Chunkles is a good buddy of mine and he's not one to start a fight or anything but as soon as I heard that your bad guild was trashing him on here I had to post. I don't need your garbage guild giving my friend a bad name or throwing blame onto anyone else. I was in your wipe-fest PUG and let's get some things clear here, YOU are an enhancement shaman and your bad Main Tank is an MS Warrior, if there were any others that were NOT in your guild they wouldn't have been mentioned as having composed your "entire core" by the other poster.. so let's take a step back from that. In addition to that, you didn't change your agenda to "salvage" the raid. Your poorly led raid was forced to attempt trash farming because of countless wipes and even that didn't work out, because guess what? Your "more than adequately geared" group has not even the slightest clue on how to approach raiding. I'll never understand why guilds like yours try to make yourselves seem better than you actually are, you need to realize that players will eventually sniff you out and you really won't get anywhere then. P.S. Putting emphasis on the fact that a t1 warrior and shaman belt were rolled for fairly really goes to show how hard the ninja accusations hit you that you need to remind everyone that you had a fair roll in a PUG. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2017 On 3/31/2017 at 10:02 PM, Dyrewulf said: P.S. Putting emphasis on the fact that a t1 warrior and shaman belt were rolled for fairly really goes to show how hard the ninja accusations hit you that you need to remind everyone that you had a fair roll in a PUG. Besides the usual shit-slinging (I'm not about to go into that) I just wanted to point something out. Your assumptions that we pointed out a fair rolling system because it "really goes to show how hard the ninja accusations hit" is totally ignorant and off-base. We need to make one thing clear. We don't give a flying fuck about "ninja accusations" with no PROOF. Oh no! Looks like we'll keep on marching along huh. I'll say it again, and for the last time: Provide proof of these ninja events and show everyone what we are! Oh wait, you can't? Then fuck off with that inane bullshit. People take this game seriously, like I imagine you do, coming to defend Chunkles; he was really good natured! You were there, and you also saw the Stormstrike right? He isn't the sole reason the raid failed. Get over yourself. Your projections of feels over reals really stand out with that. Did we have a MS warrior? Yep! Did we advise him to change his spec? Yep! If I were you I would advise Chunkles to not stormstrike in raids, problem solved! I hope you in no way take offense to the above, because I never once called Chunkles a bad player. People can make changes to become better without getting offended, I hope. He probably rocks pvp. One last thing before I get into the reasons. Our Main Tank does NOT use MS. That was a different warrior completely. Sorry about that slot :D The raid failed because of: Inexperience (at the time): Many of us (including myself) are players who haven't stepped foot in MC since retail vanilla. Should we have researched before? Yeah for sure! Do we learn from our mistakes? You betcha. This is definitely the biggest reason. Even still, we have plenty of people who know MC like the back of their hand and they are actively teaching new guildies about what to do. Lack of proper coordination: The leadership hierarchy was admittedly not what it should have been. Lots of people were in the discord, but not all. So communication was split. Since you were there I hope you'd have at least noticed the raid warnings I kept putting out because people just weren't getting into proper position (some of the time). Stacking on those lava surgers was challenging! To anyone else reading this, if you like not giving a crap about others' opinions, come on down! We'd love to have ya. Moreso if you happen to be a priest, mage, or druid. But we take all classes. Not lvl 60 yet, but almost there? No matter! We will take lvl 50+ players and happily help you get your Pre-Bis. But man I am loving this drama. So juicy. Mm MMM 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dyrewulf 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 3:22 AM, FearTwo said: Besides the usual shit-slinging (I'm not about to go into that) I just wanted to point something out. Your assumptions that we pointed out a fair rolling system because it "really goes to show how hard the ninja accusations hit" is totally ignorant and off-base. We need to make one thing clear. We don't give a flying fuck about "ninja accusations" with no PROOF. Oh no! Looks like we'll keep on marching along huh. I'll say it again, and for the last time: Provide proof of these ninja events and show everyone what we are! Oh wait, you can't? Then fuck off with that inane bullshit. People take this game seriously, like I imagine you do, coming to defend Chunkles; he was really good natured! You were there, and you also saw the Stormstrike right? He isn't the sole reason the raid failed. Get over yourself. Your projections of feels over reals really stand out with that. Did we have a MS warrior? Yep! Did we advise him to change his spec? Yep! If I were you I would advise Chunkles to not stormstrike in raids, problem solved! I hope you in no way take offense to the above, because I never once called Chunkles a bad player. People can make changes to become better without getting offended, I hope. He probably rocks pvp. One last thing before I get into the reasons. Our Main Tank does NOT use MS. That was a different warrior completely. Sorry about that slot :D The raid failed because of: Inexperience (at the time): Many of us (including myself) are players who haven't stepped foot in MC since retail vanilla. Should we have researched before? Yeah for sure! Do we learn from our mistakes? You betcha. This is definitely the biggest reason. Even still, we have plenty of people who know MC like the back of their hand and they are actively teaching new guildies about what to do. Lack of proper coordination: The leadership hierarchy was admittedly not what it should have been. Lots of people were in the discord, but not all. So communication was split. Since you were there I hope you'd have at least noticed the raid warnings I kept putting out because people just weren't getting into proper position (some of the time). Stacking on those lava surgers was challenging! To anyone else reading this, if you like not giving a crap about others' opinions, come on down! We'd love to have ya. Moreso if you happen to be a priest, mage, or druid. But we take all classes. Not lvl 60 yet, but almost there? No matter! We will take lvl 50+ players and happily help you get your Pre-Bis. But man I am loving this drama. So juicy. Mm MMM You had both an MS Warrior and an Enhancement Shaman, probably more that I didn't pick up on unfortunately but thanks for clearing things up. Now potential raiders can understand that <Cry Havoc> is inexperienced, poorly led, and lacks coordination. If your leadership doesn't know what they're doing then FORGET about it, you can have 100 people who know MC like the back of their hand teaching your scrub members, leadership is EVERYTHING in raiding. >Stacking on those lava surgers was challenging toppest of keks 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2017 12 hours ago, Dyrewulf said: You had both an MS Warrior and an Enhancement Shaman, probably more that I didn't pick up on unfortunately but thanks for clearing things up. Now potential raiders can understand that <Cry Havoc> is inexperienced, poorly led, and lacks coordination. If your leadership doesn't know what they're doing then FORGET about it, you can have 100 people who know MC like the back of their hand teaching your scrub members, leadership is EVERYTHING in raiding. >Stacking on those lava surgers was challenging toppest of keks Cool story bro. I guess people don't learn, or whatever. Im starting to believe you weren't there at all and just came to defend your friend. This'll be my last acknowledgement of you, as when I pointed out the general reasons why the raid failed (and how we learn from our mistakes) you just continue to bash. No point in conversation with a troll. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lineupofpeace 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2017 On 3/31/2017 at 8:48 PM, Tristramn said: We hosted an MC that was half guild - half PUG. Our members are MORE THAN adequately geared to handle MC. However, admittedly, we were in need of players to fill the raid and we had to take what we could. One of which was an MS warrior, and the other was an enhancement shaman who was actively using Stormstrike. His name is Chunkles and is no way associated with Cry Havoc or its members. In an attempt to salvage the raid, (which couldn't be filled at the time we began pugging) Cry Havoc had changed its agenda to initiate the rest of the run as a trash run. Two BOE epics dropped - in addition to multiple lava cores and fiery cores. The epics included a T1 warrior and shaman belt, which were then /rolled for fairly and went to the highest roller. After the trash run was completed, everyone departed and no one had gotten saved. Cry Havoc takes its player interactions seriously, and while it wasn't a multi-boss down run, it was successful in the fact that a couple people got the chance to get their first pieces of T1. Thank you, Tristramn Lmao. You are the enhancement shaman I was referring to. Envying is the MS warrior, and was certainly a member of your guild at the time of the raid. This guild is a joke, and these pathetic responses are only making it worse. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolliz 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, lineupofpeace said: Lmao. You are the enhancement shaman I was referring to. Envying is the MS warrior, and was certainly a member of your guild at the time of the raid. This guild is a joke, and these pathetic responses are only making it worse. Envying is fury. Lul. But not that it matters. Forum drama is useless. I have learned there will always be forum trolls because they cant actually be good they have to result to trolling other trying to enjoy the game. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Egregious 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2017 This is very juicy. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lineupofpeace 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Kolliz said: Envying is fury. Lul. But not that it matters. Forum drama is useless. I have learned there will always be forum trolls because they cant actually be good they have to result to trolling other trying to enjoy the game. No he was definitely arms, but it's not like 2h fury is any more viable with a shitty 2h axe anyway. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, Egregious said: This is very juicy. Ikr 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garun 9 Report post Posted April 6, 2017 Grats on downing some bosses guys. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FearTwo 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2017 On 4/6/2017 at 1:24 PM, zmandude24 said: Grats on downing some bosses guys. Thanks!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites