Seal of Crusader question

[mirager 0]

I just wondering is there any of use in Seal of Crusader's +attack power? Currently when buffing the seal, damage staying the same. So the only useful effect of the seal is 40% increased attack speed?

[killerduki 54]

2 minutes ago, mirager said:

So the only useful effect of the seal is 40% increased attack speed?

Yep.

/Kind regards Killerduki

[mirager 0]

Well then why not just "increase 40% attack speed"? +300 attack power for nothing it confusing me so much O_o

[mytchi3 1]

25 minutes ago, mirager said:

Well then why not just "increase 40% attack speed"? +300 attack power for nothing it confusing me so much O_o

Fills the Paladin with the spirit of a crusader for 30 sec, granting 306 melee attack power. The Paladin also attacks 40% faster, but deals less damage with each attack. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time.

It increases speed and gives you AP to make up for the loss of dmg in normalization so you keep the dmg but at much higher attack speeds (40%) so your dps is 40% higher.

[mirager 0]

1 час назад, mytchi3 сказал:

It increases speed and gives you AP to make up for the loss of dmg in normalization so you keep the dmg but at much higher attack speeds (40%) so your dps is 40% higher.

It is exactly as i told.

For example i have 100-150 damage in my character screen. With Seal of Crusader buff damage is the same 100-150, but attack speed is 40% faster. So the question is why we need this "blah blah blah 300 attack power" when just "increase attack speed" would be enough.

I'm just interested is there any practical usage of increased attack power, like earlier (AP increased consecration damage).

[JCarrill0 17]

28 minutes ago, mirager said:

It is exactly as i told.

For example i have 100-150 damage in my character screen. With Seal of Crusader buff damage is the same 100-150, but attack speed is 40% faster. So the question is why we need this "blah blah blah 300 attack power" when just "increase attack speed" would be enough.

I'm just interested is there any practical usage of increased attack power, like earlier (AP increased consecration damage).

Vanilla design, not elysium design.

i wish I could change so many descriptions 

 

edit: I us d to have a guide for each paladin spell, and detailed description on what they actually did.

[mytchi3 1]

2 hours ago, mirager said:

It is exactly as i told.

For example i have 100-150 damage in my character screen. With Seal of Crusader buff damage is the same 100-150, but attack speed is 40% faster. So the question is why we need this "blah blah blah 300 attack power" when just "increase attack speed" would be enough.

I'm just interested is there any practical usage of increased attack power, like earlier (AP increased consecration damage).

Ap increases dmg of consecration so its good for that

[Theloras 108]

39 minutes ago, mytchi3 said:

Ap increases dmg of consecration so its good for that

not anymore - that was not blizzlike back on Nost and it's been fixed here on Elysium

[killerduki 54]

3 hours ago, Flyheal said:

tbh according to the seal description your first few swings SHOULD be hitting harder and going down to a minimum,

The original idea of the first swing hitting drastically harder is that you didnt have to do some weird timing between auto attack and judgement to not lose out on a smidge of dps on your target, it would be "as if" you were hitting with a real seal on that first swing.

Uploaded on Jun 12, 2006

00:59 SoTC - 15 damage before the judge land hogger, 1:00 - 18-19-21 normal white swings using sor , 1:37 SoTC - 19 -15 - 21 - 18 - 17 - 17 - 16 -15 - 14.

If the normal white swings used to do 18-19-21 damage , with SoTC you can see that the damage goes from 21 down to 14 .

Here is the thing , it is not hitting Harder according to your statement ,in fact it should even hit lower than the normal damage.

If it is working as Blizzlike , SoTC will do even lower than it is in the current state, even tho right now is still useless seal .

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Theloras 108]

TLDR - SotC isn't 100% blizzlike but it's really not worth the dev time to get it 100% blizzlike

As Duki said, you hit for exactly the same amount of damage, only 40% faster - both Seal of Command and Seal of Righteousness are much better alternatives - and that in itself is 100% blizzlike.

[Whitewolf 1]

In vanilla it was always a flat reduction in damage and never a gradual decrease like some guides say it was. Heck prior to the nerf it was the best seal to use because there was no damage reduction and didn't rely on spell damage at all.

When I played in vanilla the only reason I used SoC after the nerf to SotC was because it was flat out better for pvp...and you could get lucky. That and I never got high end gear, too busy playing pvp to do that pve stuff.

In the video, the lowest damage a non SotC strike did was 15, and the lowest SotC strike did 14. There really wasn't much of a difference. A few seconds later the damage range normalized starting with a 35 crit to 33 crit to 18 to 17 to 17 to 18. Weapons have a damage range, it just so happened that in that one instance it went from the high end to the low end consistently.

What we have on server very closely resembles what SotC did in the original game.