Nighthaven PVP? Why not RP-PVP

[Broomstick 0]

Greetings, fellow Elysiumians.  I come here with a suggestion, that many of us in the community are crying out for. With the merge of Darrowshire, Anathema and Elysium into a new PVP server, there is firstly no where for the PVErs of Darrowshire to go in peace. More importantly, many of us on Darrowshire came there originally to find a quiet RP community, which was fairly successful. Now, with the merge of those three realms and Nighthaven being a fresh PVP realm, there is only one choice between one PVP realm, and another PVP realm. I'd like to offer an alternative solution.

Why not do, what as far to my knowledge, no other private server project has done before? Create a fresh, vanilla RP-PVP server? I should explain what I mean by that. The server's tag is RP-PVP-, but it doesn't mean that Nighthaven would force PVPers to PVP, just as PVE servers don't cause players to participate in no PVP whatsoever. All it would do is let the roleplay community know that Nighthaven can become a home for those who do wish to have a place for roleplay, and help diversify the predominately PVP community that vanilla private servers have. Please post your thoughts on making Nighthaven a RP-PVP server in the comments.

[Lionheart 0]

Fully support! =)

RP-PVP servers have been a sanctuary for the kind of mature, adult audience that are fed up with Blizzard only catering to kiddos whose gaming experience is all about "omg lol new epix" - the same kind of people who like Legacy servers. 

What Blizz did especially with Cata and afterwards was killing the immersion of a magical and dangerous world were you were really just an adventurer rather than some sort of superhero. This project is all about preserving a cultural treasure for future generations, and this is something RP-PVP:ers do the best, by engaging in the immersion to the full extent possible.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Lionheart

[Resteele 0]

No.

The private server community is already a small enough community. An RP PVP would only be interesting to RP'ers who are an even smaller minority community with in the private server world. RP is a turn off for a vast majority of people and it will likely alienate a larger part of the private server community who don't want to stumble across ERP.

Fact of the matter is that RP in the private server community is extremely small population and while it may warm the cockles of my RP heart to have a server labeled "RP", I also beleive that a vast majority of regulars players want nothing to do with RP. The server would be low pop even as a fresh progressing server. If you want to a private RP server...make it yourself, fund it yourself. I mean, if there really is that huge of demand for it? It would already exist and it would be funded by RP'ers. You're asking a vast amount of this community, which has no interest in RP, to fund you getting a warm fuzzy feeling about being validated with a server that has "RP" in the label.

Big ole No from me. I'll stick with RP'ing with my guild.

 

[Kern 0]

No, I don't believe that using the "RP-PVP" tag is a good idea. Here's why:

• First of all, a lot of the arguments I'm seeing for the tag say that the rules for an RP-PVP server wouldn't be enforced. I believe this negates the entire reason why the "RP" part of the tag would even need to be there in the first place. A person knows exactly what they are getting into when they log into a PVP server. We know the rules, and the expectations. However, an RP-PVP server lacking these rules means that we, as players won't know the expectations. New players coming in won't know that the RP part of the rules won't be enforced. If they're expecting that, they will be sorely disappointed. However, on the other side of that argument, if they are enforced, players how don't RP will be less inclined to play on the server.

 

• Secondly, the argument can be made that RP'ers can simply make guilds and join together without the RP tag. I do realize some of them may feel marginalized without the tag, however, Elysium is already standing on a very slippery slope. We need to appeal to the largest player-base possible at this point in time. It may not be the best solution, but, I believe that the blanket PVP statement does that perfectly. Role-players will still be on the server, just as they have always been, and we know they will seek out other players, and have meaningful role-play just as they have always done. History proves this time and time again.

 

• Thirdly, having an "RP-PVP" is uncharted territory. We don't know how popular it will truly be. Right now, it's best for the staff of Elysium to play it safe. At least two, possibly three new Vanilla servers will be coming out by the end of the year this year. It would be best not to chase off one community or the other as best as we can. Playing it safe is the key for now. Redeeming the Elysium name should come first...and then, if we see an overflow, then an RP-PVP server can, and should be added to appeal to even more players, and welcome niche audiences.

 

In closing, I'm not saying an RP-PVP server shouldn't happen in the future...perhaps even near future depending on how things move forward...all I'm saying is that RP-PVP is not the best idea for now, and we should wait on it.

[smdizzle 0]

Down with RP , kill them all ;p

[Lionheart 0]

10 hours ago, Kern said:

No, I don't believe that using the "RP-PVP" tag is a good idea. Here's why:

• First of all, a lot of the arguments I'm seeing for the tag say that the rules for an RP-PVP server wouldn't be enforced. I believe this negates the entire reason why the "RP" part of the tag would even need to be there in the first place. A person knows exactly what they are getting into when they log into a PVP server. We know the rules, and the expectations. However, an RP-PVP server lacking these rules means that we, as players won't know the expectations. New players coming in won't know that the RP part of the rules won't be enforced. If they're expecting that, they will be sorely disappointed. However, on the other side of that argument, if they are enforced, players how don't RP will be less inclined to play on the server.

 

• Secondly, the argument can be made that RP'ers can simply make guilds and join together without the RP tag. I do realize some of them may feel marginalized without the tag, however, Elysium is already standing on a very slippery slope. We need to appeal to the largest player-base possible at this point in time. It may not be the best solution, but, I believe that the blanket PVP statement does that perfectly. Role-players will still be on the server, just as they have always been, and we know they will seek out other players, and have meaningful role-play just as they have always done. History proves this time and time again.

 

• Thirdly, having an "RP-PVP" is uncharted territory. We don't know how popular it will truly be. Right now, it's best for the staff of Elysium to play it safe. At least two, possibly three new Vanilla servers will be coming out by the end of the year this year. It would be best not to chase off one community or the other as best as we can. Playing it safe is the key for now. Redeeming the Elysium name should come first...and then, if we see an overflow, then an RP-PVP server can, and should be added to appeal to even more players, and welcome niche audiences.

 

In closing, I'm not saying an RP-PVP server shouldn't happen in the future...perhaps even near future depending on how things move forward...all I'm saying is that RP-PVP is not the best idea for now, and we should wait on it.

I don't necessarily have a problem with this stance in the light of the situation we're in.

It's great that someone raised this question though since I think that the RP-PVP crowd would be a really good audience for EP to target. We should work on some fun RP-PVP guild on the server and see how it works out. =)

[timk 0]

I've never played a RP server, always only PVP.  How is RP or RP-PVP different than straight PVP?

[account1 15]

The prefix RP will not change anything in the server or in the community. The RP was dead, the RP would be dead.

 

[account1 15]

12 часа назад, timk сказал:

I've never played a RP server, always only PVP.  How is RP or RP-PVP different than straight PVP?

nothing