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Lets Talk About 180g for Epic Mount!

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As many of you alrdy know, with the price switch for mounts/riding skill a lot of player who were lvl60 pre patch 1.4 were able to buy their epic mount for just 180g and ive got some questions.

1) Why did you switch the prices with 1.4 and not 1.12.1?(like it would be if u wanna be "blizzlike")

2) Why would you give players who are alrdy at an advantage (lvl60 early) another HUGE advantage by giving them the epic mount for almost free?

3) Can i expect to have to farm 1000g bc i wasnt fast enough lvl60? and can players that are lvl60 for some time and bought their epic mount for the full price expect to have wasted 820g?

4) what exactly was the thought process of these changes?

 

Patch notest 1.4

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.4.0

Patch notes 1.12.1

http://vanilla-wow.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.12.1

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Major disappointment.

Finally having enough gold to buy your epic mount is always a major topic and nostalgic element when people think about the Vanilla experience, and is a testament to how brutal things could get in Vanilla. Nothing was given to you.

But alas, this completely voided this entire premise. What a joke.

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I would really like a developer or community manager's input on this, along with if anything will be done to solve this issue, or if it's simply a matter of "Whoops we messed up, so let's move on."

I'm sure all the current level 60s are gleeful at getting a cheap fast mount, but personally as a level 56 when the patch hit, it was very disappointing to hear of this exploit. Now every level 60 I encounter in world PvP has a 100% mount to chase me down. I have decided to stop playing on this project as a result and not finish my leveling journey, as this change has left a very sour taste in my mouth.

 

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Epic mounts are cheap in retail WoW and you can still get ganked, it's part of PVP WoW servers everywhere. I'm looking forward to cheaper epic mounts, personally.

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8 minutes ago, Booksie said:

Epic mounts are cheap in retail WoW and you can still get ganked, it's part of PVP WoW servers everywhere. I'm looking forward to cheaper epic mounts, personally.

This is not retail, nor should it resemble anything close to retail.

Really bad troll post, or what?

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1 hour ago, Booksie said:

Epic mounts are cheap in retail WoW and you can still get ganked, it's part of PVP WoW servers everywhere. I'm looking forward to cheaper epic mounts, personally.

Well this isn't retail, so that's irrelevant.

And who cares about cheaper mounts. The issue isn't cheaper mounts, it's the riding skill going from ~150-200g pre 1.4 to ~900g post 1.4. It's too early for this change. It should not have been implemented until much later, when the vast majority of the playerbase has already purchased their epic riding. Instead of having most of the playerbase on an even playing field for the majority of the realm's life, they basically gave a huge bonus to a tiny percentage, and screwed everyone else over.

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20 minutes ago, Jupes85 said:

they basically gave a huge bonus to a tiny percentage, and screwed everyone else over.

exactly

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2 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Could it be because its more "vanilla" given how many people can reach 60 quickly, as in retail vanilla about the same player % was likely about 60 when they initially did the price swap.

what are you talking about? the swap came with 1.12.1, EVERYONE was lvl60 and had their epic mount alrdy. and if more players got it for 180g its even worse.

5 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

(BTW those people paid the full price for pure vanity so WTF is ur deal?) :)

who are you even talking about? what is your argument?

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10 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Could it be because its more "vanilla" given how many people can reach 60 quickly, as in retail vanilla about the same player % was likely about 60 when they initially did the price swap. Sorry you didnt hit 60, but its not really a small %, seems like if they hadnt done it youd have a horde riding around on white raptors (BTW most of those people paid the full price for pure vanity so WTF is ur deal?) :)

You're just throwing numbers out. While I agree that people level up quicker now than they did during Vanilla, I would definitely argue that on most vanilla servers, by September 2006(which is when the mount change was added) a higher percentage of the playerbase was level 60 than on Nighthaven right now.

 

Most people paid full price ? Cmon man. Look around. A week or two ago barely anyone had their epic riding mount. Now you don't see any level 60 without it.

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16 minutes ago, Jupes85 said:

I would definitely argue that on most vanilla servers, by September 2006(which is when the mount change was added) a higher percentage of the playerbase was level 60 than on Nighthaven right now.

ofc there were more 60s on classic servers, there isnt even the need to argue.

patch 1.12.1 release 26 September 2006 and Burning Crusade came out 15. January 2007

that switch came in preperation of BC, to claim it has anything to do with being more "vanilla" is a joke.

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5 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Simply saying plenty of people got their ivory raptor for the full cost of what you are going to pay. Also it sounds like a gripe fest from people who couldnt manage to get 60 in 2 months -_- 

So there you have it. People got rewarded for hitting 60 faster than others.

Is that really the premise of Elysium ? Hit 60 fast so you can get bonuses ?

I know you think your reply is cute, but you pretty much stated exactly what the problem with this change is.

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2 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Legit tho all i hear is "Im so mad this old game on a free private server ignored all my casual player concerns" so

That's all you hear because you're an ignorant individual. You couldn't care less about the grand scheme of things. The authenticity of an experience. Not everyone jumps from projects to projects leveling to 60. 

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2 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Legit tho all i hear is "Im so mad this old game on a free private server ignored all my casual player concerns" so

dude, be happy with your 180g epic mount and feel good about yourself, but dont come here and act like this is fair, or was in any way necessary. Or please explan to me how this helped the server or anyone in any way (except the ones who got a free epic mount).

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1 minute ago, D1E53L said:

not even level 60, simply cant stand the whining about this and that all over the place

ok, troll

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2 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

I think you ignore the fact they cant expect big boosts to the player base. its going to stagnate faster than retail. And in a way what im saying is the point of Elysium is recreate an enjoyable experience, but you cant please all the plebs.

Allowing people to buy mounts at a major rebate will stagnate the realm seeing as you removed the need to farm. So it seems super counter intuitive. Sure, the rest of us will have to do it the hard way, but feeling sour the entire time.

2 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Not everyone is prepared to wait for the scrubs to hit 60 for the QOL adds :D

Right.

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1 minute ago, D1E53L said:

Said the big boy mad about not being 60 =D

That doesn't make him a troll. It just makes him mad. But I understand that you're not exactly intellectually gifted.

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Just now, D1E53L said:

Said the big boy mad about not being 60 =D

im mad that some players had to pay a lot less for their epic mount, and imo everyone should be because, like i said a 1000 times, its unfair and was unecessary. This is a legit complaint, no matter how much you try to troll. ur rlly bad at it btw

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but the whole thing seems a bit strange to me in general. Sorry for the phrase, but who is so incredibly stupid and makes such a major change with the honor patch? Every idiot can add up 1 and 1 and knows what that means in terms of ganking etc.

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3 minutes ago, D1E53L said:

Get that your sour, but a whole thread demanding devs to explain themselves? they really dont owe anyone shit.

How do they not ?

They strive for authenticity. Fairness. True experience. This defeats this entire premise. 

I understand that Nighthaven is on fast progression mode, but they still had no reason not to make this change until they release Naxx. There was zero reason to do this other than give a huge advantage to fresh 60s. But that really isn't a good reason.

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1 minute ago, Jupes85 said:

How do they not ?

They strive for authenticity. Fairness. True experience. This defeats this entire premise. 

+ transparency since the bullshit happened with the Money

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Just now, D1E53L said:

Maybe its not timeline, but it wasn't an unannounced surprise.

show me where ... I cant find anything under "announcements"

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Just now, D1E53L said:

Because strive for dosnt include things like pre lvl 10 chat bans. Recreating that experience as they saw it brought the early swap. You can question it, but they dont owe you an answer, and since this server is literally a gift, a whole threading trashing their gig is really just a shitter thing to do. Start another one about how unstable it is, or how you lost your loot and need rollbacks. Its enough already - go play another private server if ur so dick hurt but dont come around blasting their decisions because you're at personal detriment. 

The forums are here for that. To argue our opinions. How about you take your own advice and just not read this thread ?

It's obvious that some things affect authenticity and experience more than others. Chat bans are a way to deal with major gold spam. I'm sure they would rather not have to do it, but it's a 'pick your poison' kind of situation.

This mount change isn't. It can't be anything other than a clear lack of vision. 

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1 minute ago, D1E53L said:

Because strive for dosnt include things like pre lvl 10 chat bans. Recreating that experience as they saw it brought the early swap. You can question it, but they dont owe you an answer, and since this server is literally a gift, a whole threading trashing their gig is really just a shitter thing to do. Start another one about how unstable it is, or how you lost your loot and need rollbacks. Its enough already - go play another private server if ur so dick hurt but dont come around blasting their decisions because you're at personal detriment. 

mby if u get your own c*ck out your ass you could see a diffenrence between whining about bullshit and legit complaints about important ingame changes that WERE NOT NECESSARY in any way. just because ive got a complaint doesnt mean im trashing them. u mad?

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gotta make myself clear since you dont seem to understand me. epic mount is not important in wow, thats news. 800g is not important, ok.

im not calling for a 180g epic mount for everyone, im calling for a 1000g epic mount for everyone. if you think these changes were fair, then we have nothing to talk about anymore. all i wanted was a reply by a dev to clear the situation and mby tell us why they did it

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1 minute ago, D1E53L said:

lol cussing and CAPSLOCK and then "u mad?". Seriously doll, you seem like a complainer who wishes he could be more try hard. You failed to be one of the wowkoolkids and now you're saying your legit complaints about important in game things? Literally nothing about this is important.

Your use of sweetie and doll is so condescending. Does it make you feel better ?

And it is a legit complaint. Epic riding is always a major element when people remember Vanilla WoW. It's a huge accomplishment and very rewarding when you finally get it. If for you it's insignificant, then that's fine, but I don't think you'd be the majority. A lot of players got it for cheaper, so not much of an accomplishment, and the rest of the players will need to farm for it, while feeling gypped the entire time. It's a lose lose situation.

When you try to level, and all you see are swarms of players on their epic mounts ganking everything, it makes the entire thing feel even worse. Like not only are they parading their cheap epic, but they're ganking you on it. Make you feel like you really got screwed over.

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