Sort out the Low Level Ganking or Lose Players

[Mystalope 0]

I've decided that I'm going to take a break from Elysium. That's a hard decision as there is a lot of positives to the whole experience. However, the low-level ganking epidemic has now gotten to the point where it's making this an overwhelmingly negative experience. I don't want to be angry when playing a game. What is the point in that? If we can't have a system to control this - either a PVE server, or some penalties for the deliberate targeting/camping of lower-level players... then I will find something else to do. In the last fortnight, I have literally failed to play for more than 10 minutes, in any number of regions, without this occurring. I don't know if this is purely an issue for Horde players or not, I don't know why it's got worse. I'm guessing there are perhaps a lot of players bored with content/waiting for raids? There's no benefit to them as far as I am aware other than the cheap kick from trolling someone. And that, last point is the one that depresses me the most. Life is too short to be surrounded by that kind of person/player. I've loved WoW for over 10 years - and I'd sooner leave than grow to hate it. And Elysium will lose players due to this. It will dwindle and die. I am going to check back to see if there is any change, but for now, adios.

[Kalmar 0]

What exactly do you propose we should do? It's been like that since day one. People still play. Nothing will change. We can not punish players for gameplay mechanics that was introduced by Blizzard themselves over a decade ago. Ganking occurs much more often now than it did back then, that is for sure, but that is not under our control. There are numerous techniques to make things better while leveling, it's up to you whether you're going to utilize them or not. If you get really upset after being killed a couple of times in a row, WoW may not be the game for you anymore. 

If someone's really pushing the limit and corpse camps you for an extended period of time, feel free to open a ticket and one of our GMs will take a look, but as I said,  occasional world kills do not break any of our ToS rules. As far as ganking/WPvP is concerned, you will have exactly the same experience on any PvP server and that includes future Classic PvP servers.

[Wildcopper 0]

The problem is you don't (or no longer) offer the PvE server alternative.
Some days indeed, the ganking is so bad, with corpse/graveyard camping, that I simply log out and go do something else.

And no, it's not worse on Blizzard servers. This server is free, meaning a lot of kids, immature people and trolls will play. And of course, Blizzard offers the PvE server alternative so it's a non issue.

[Matick 0]

1 hour ago, Wildcopper said:

The problem is you don't (or no longer) offer the PvE server alternative.

I think the Elysium team should consider releasing a PvE server. Keep in mind the one on Light's Hope is being removed within the next couple of months, and no other alternative exists. Just my two cents.

[IceKnight366 0]

If this was a response to something that happened to this guy over the weekend it was probably me and my level 36 hunter friend doing the ganking lol.

Some games aren't for everyone.  If you can't take the heat then, to be put bluntly, find another game.  When I was low level I got corpse camped throughout my entire leveling experience from 15-56.  It probably doubled my time to get to 60.  It sucks, it pisses you off, but that's war.  And when you're 60 you repay the favor.  In my opinion, If you don't hate the other faction by the time you're 60 somethings gone wrong.

[Mario Aguilar 0]

19 hours ago, IceKnight366 said:

 In my opinion, If you don't hate the other faction by the time you're 60 somethings gone wrong.

This is an ideal that can be taken from just the name of the game!! True words!

[Jupes85 5]

On 4/9/2018 at 3:43 AM, Kalmar said:

What exactly do you propose we should do? It's been like that since day one. People still play. Nothing will change. We can not punish players for gameplay mechanics that was introduced by Blizzard themselves over a decade ago. Ganking occurs much more often now than it did back then, that is for sure, but that is not under our control. There are numerous techniques to make things better while leveling, it's up to you whether you're going to utilize them or not. If you get really upset after being killed a couple of times in a row, WoW may not be the game for you anymore. 

If someone's really pushing the limit and corpse camps you for an extended period of time, feel free to open a ticket and one of our GMs will take a look, but as I said,  occasional world kills do not break any of our ToS rules. As far as ganking/WPvP is concerned, you will have exactly the same experience on any PvP server and that includes future Classic PvP servers.

It actually began after the PvP patch and cheap mount fiasco. That's when it became a total shitfest. I haven't played since and am surprised it's still a gank fest on here. 

[Mystalope 0]

On 4/9/2018 at 12:43 AM, Kalmar said:

What exactly do you propose we should do? It's been like that since day one. People still play. Nothing will change. We can not punish players for gameplay mechanics that was introduced by Blizzard themselves over a decade ago. Ganking occurs much more often now than it did back then, that is for sure, but that is not under our control. There are numerous techniques to make things better while leveling, it's up to you whether you're going to utilize them or not. If you get really upset after being killed a couple of times in a row, WoW may not be the game for you anymore. 

If someone's really pushing the limit and corpse camps you for an extended period of time, feel free to open a ticket and one of our GMs will take a look, but as I said,  occasional world kills do not break any of our ToS rules. As far as ganking/WPvP is concerned, you will have exactly the same experience on any PvP server and that includes future Classic PvP servers.

Wow. Are you a representative of Elysium? With reference to the pure nasty arrogance you display with the following comment:  "If you get really upset after being killed a couple of times in a row, WoW may not be the game for you anymore"

It's not occasional, that's the whole point. I've been playing for months now, and this has become noticeably worse. So please don't treat me like an inferior being that you need to talk down to, it doesn't speak well for you as a person.

To actually clear up your obvious lack of awareness - my last session was roughly 2 hours of play, and I got ganked 7 times, in different locations, with 3 different toons.

Of course, you do have the option to wring your hands and do nothing, and I have the option to leave and find a better experience elsewhere. I'd rather not do that as I am rather fond of Elysium, and have invested a lot of time in it. I am currently exploring other Private servers to see if this is just the way it has to be (as you seem to indicate), or if there are alternatives. I believe Blizzard introduced mechanics to sort this in the TBC upgrade?

So to finish up... your "people still play' comment really sums this up for me. Thanks for clarifying your position, it's helped me to clarify mine.

[Mystalope 0]

On 4/9/2018 at 5:32 PM, IceKnight366 said:

If this was a response to something that happened to this guy over the weekend it was probably me and my level 36 hunter friend doing the ganking lol.

Some games aren't for everyone.  If you can't take the heat then, to be put bluntly, find another game.  When I was low level I got corpse camped throughout my entire leveling experience from 15-56.  It probably doubled my time to get to 60.  It sucks, it pisses you off, but that's war.  And when you're 60 you repay the favor.  In my opinion, If you don't hate the other faction by the time you're 60 somethings gone wrong.

Thanks for being honest, and I do understand that this is one element of Wow - especially on a Vanilla PVP server. I never needed to be ganked endlessly to end up 'hating' the Alliance. I disliked Alliance for other reasons - through the law and the characterization as opposed to being trolled by other players. If this is all that Elysium can offer, then it is a shallow version of what WoW was to many. Wow to me was about exploring, law, open world, freidnships, raiding, PVP in battlefields... it was about FUN not HATE. I'm currently trying out a TBC server and it's PVP, and it's fun. Elysium is overcrowded with players who seem to be only interested in pissing off other players. And if you like that, fine - obviously. I don't want to spoil what you have. I do however think that this will lead to the server losing people. And maybe you will think that's for the best. I will pop in and out to see what happens with Elysium, as I have a soft spot for it still. But to be honest, the feedback I'm getting is that players like me are not wanted, or welcome. 

[Mystalope 0]

On 4/9/2018 at 8:21 AM, Matick said:

I think the Elysium team should consider releasing a PvE server. Keep in mind the one on Light's Hope is being removed within the next couple of months, and no other alternative exists. Just my two cents.

Completely agree. I'd like a RP/PVE mix. I want to play PVP but in Battlegrounds. I work full time and have a family to raise. Spending hours running back to a spot where I was ganked is not a viable way to spend my free time.

[Kalmar 0]

Don't get me wrong, being a player myself I get your frustration, I really do, but I am not going to sugar coat things here. We will not be enforcing carebear rules on a PvP server. I do not want to say you signed up for this, but then again, you're playing on a PvP server.  You'll have to find your way around this issue and if you do not, I wish you the best of luck wherever you go. :)