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We currently do not offer a PVE server. We have had one in the past, but the population has been so low on them it made the game unplayable. 

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14 hours ago, EvilNecroid said:

is there a PVE server?

i dont like being 1 shotted over and over again by a lvl60 when im only 20

Some people are just so shitty they can't compete at their own level so they need to kill everything weaker.  If this was a pve server these shitties would have to pvp in battlegrounds but they wouldn't stand a chance so they just cry til they get a pvp server and can harass others.

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18 hours ago, Zancon said:

We currently do not offer a PVE server. We have had one in the past, but the population has been so low on them it made the game unplayable. 

um constantly being killed by a lvl60 makes the game unplayable tho?

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I'm a PVE person at heart, but I'd ultimately sooner have one healthy population server than two fragmented ones. For sure it can be annoying to get repeatedly ganked by level 60s but I guess it's also a way of encouraging you to explore somewhere else to level, to call on high level players to come to your aid, etc. Despite having never really done much world PVP myself, I can see how it adds a certain level of organic play that you wouldn't otherwise have.

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Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I will not stick around on this PvP server constantly getting ganked for no reason once there is an option... Even a paid one.  Once WoW classic comes out I can't see myself subjecting myself to the annoyance of a PvP server.

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23 hours ago, Blagomatic said:

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I will not stick around on this PvP server constantly getting ganked for no reason once there is an option... Even a paid one.  Once WoW classic comes out I can't see myself subjecting myself to the annoyance of a PvP server.

 

Just to let you guys know, even in retail PvP servers are much more popular then PvE ^^

If you get constantly ganked by people then you must be doing something wrong honestly, I got ganked maybe a total of 10-15 times during 1-60 lol

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I always hated PvP servers and I don't even understand why they exist. Just add an option at character creation "PvP Character ?" and make it so that once you commited to a PvP character, you're a PvP character forever.

This way both PvP players and PvE players can have fun on the same server. 

If you're forcing someone to play a PvP character while they don't want to, you're just making the game toxic for those players and ruining the overall ambiance. 

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They could figure out a way to add the current PVP incarnation "Warmode", but then it would not be Blizz like...

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12 hours ago, Maletears said:

I always hated PvP servers and I don't even understand why they exist. Just add an option at character creation "PvP Character ?" and make it so that once you commited to a PvP character, you're a PvP character forever.

This way both PvP players and PvE players can have fun on the same server. 

If you're forcing someone to play a PvP character while they don't want to, you're just making the game toxic for those players and ruining the overall ambiance. 

We dont force anyone to do anything.

To add the option at character selection would be incredibly difficult and requite us to heavily reverse engineer and modify the client. So then everyone has to download a new client.

Vanilla WoW was hard and you had to earn everything. That's what people loved about it and why there are no successful PvE servers in the Pserver community. I get that its not for everyone,  and there are not enough members of the community that want a PvE server to justify the cost of hosting one.

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Well, by being the only good server out there, and by being PvP, you force people to play on a PvP server.

Of course you can just not play at all (or die IRL), you always have a choice, but some choices are not choices. 😉 

Vanilla WoW was hard but there was PvE servers. Trying to say that PvE servers were something 'not blizzlike' is absurd.

Why not make it a PvP-RP server and force everyone to be roleplay then ? That would be the same kind of nonsense. On a PvE server, you have the choice to be PvE or PvP. On a PvP server you don't. I actually talked on my twitch channels with players who liked Elysium but prefered to stay on their little PvE server than to suffer a PvP server and the toxicity that comes with it.

 

By the way, adding the option at character creation is VERY easy.
=> Create a " .pvemode " function usable only at level 1
=> Level 1 players that use the ".pvemode" at level 1 are flagged out of PvP forever.

After level 1, the function is disabled.

It's super damn easy. 

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I never said PVE servers are not blizzlike. I said there are no successful PVE servers in the private server community. 

You must consider the costs associated with running a private server. We cant just throw up a bunch of servers - we have to go with the majority of players and what they want to be sustainable. 

We have a little bit of a difference in terminology as when you say character creation I take that to mean prior to ever being in the game world. You could do a set of commands as you say. I don't think it is something we wouldnever explore however. Creating a PVP / PVE division on the server doesn't sound like something we would be interested in doing.

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On 2/27/2019 at 4:54 AM, Zancon said:

Vanilla WoW was hard and you had to earn everything. That's what people loved about it and why there are no successful PvE servers in the Pserver community

Nost had a great PVE server, you have their code/core, and some of my current (now PVP) characters are from that server.....

 

1 hour ago, Zancon said:

You must consider the costs associated with running a private server. We cant just throw up a bunch of servers - we have to go with the majority of players and what they want to be sustainable. 

Yet you are starting a new PVP server because TBC is delayed?

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6 hours ago, Hater said:

Yet you are starting a new PVP server because TBC is delayed?

Haha I was thinking exactly the same thing.

You're losing more players with PvP toxicity than you're gaining trying to please the few assholes that like to make others' life a living hell.

But well, as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't prevent me to play. That just annoy the shit out of me and reduce sensibly the fun I'm having.

 

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I don't understand why the new PVP server keeps getting referenced - we have already established that more people play PVP than will play PVE.

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IMO: what we really want is bug fixes instead of splitting our already low population into 2 servers....

 

But Rain told me to trust him when I mentioned this on Disc, so....

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The odd thing is when I looked up the vanilla US servers there are more PvE than PvP... (especially when you include the RP servers which are almost all PvE).  I'm not sure why the private server community loves PvP, but I'll take your word for it that there aren't enough PvE players to support a server.

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