Snide
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You'll have to wait like ~6 months for me to get the gear and make video part 2! This guide isn't tanking 101 stick to that stuff before you're ready for big boy tactics. You don't need to take the full amount of damage to gain the additional point of rage! Even a point every other or even once in every ten swings is more tps than not. You also don't understand that you're harming your healers position on realmplayers by purposely taking less (non-lethal) damage. You've already deduced the extra armor doesn't reduce damage by a lot, why HURT your HEALERS Realmplayers ambitions? The best avoidance mechanic for TPS is no avoidance, you'll always get more TPS out of the rage than a hasted auto or two with any weapon, even more-so when legitimately half the hits will be crushes or crits because you're trying to avoid shield blocking unless revenge isn't up! It's 2017, start sitting down when a boss swings at you.
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Some bosses you'd use a defense set, certainly not all. It doesn't even work on everything in MC (Garr/Sulph adds). I also will have around ~13k hp when I'm tanking in BWL for this type of style.
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I'm not going to go through and nitpick all that much, but there's only 8 debuff slots on Elysium and a number of other factors. All of our raid virtually has sappers, I'm using them and have them hotkeyed in the video. There haven't been enough Cornerstones yet for me to get one but eventually everyone will have one along with dog whistles for Ragnaros etc. PPM doesn't work on private servers, look at the code which is available and most things are just flat percents. That's another reason why I believe Alcors is underrated. You're posting retail knowledge that just isn't accurate for Mangos. You also keep talking about items and trinkets which aren't available on Elysium. HOJ generates extra rage from additional procs, and while yes it doesn't proc from every single boss it still is the BIS trinket for threat with the currently available gear. Sometimes it's worse than a Rammstien's lightning bolts or whatever else random crap you'd use, but most of the time it'd be superior. You can see Luci getting smited by our priests in the video, if you're paying that much attention to it at least notice those things or look at our realmplayers logs. As I said I can't always control if I have fire shield/ret aura, I obviously want them and it's not my fault directly if they aren't kept up on me. The armor pot is simply because it's not proper to not use every possible consumable or buff at your disposal. In this current tier you're going to need 10 healers to do things like Garr without adds, tanks are a lot squishier in 1.4 and I can't even tank all 8 with a fully defensive setup and imp sw without dying. Could a healer skill issue but I haven't seen any guild on Elysium pull it off without risk. As I said in the video, vanilla WoW has an infinite skill cap and you could always do something better. Anyone can analyze a video and make 1,000 adjustments to improve just a single person's play, not even an entire raid. That doesn't really change what I outlined in the guild or the major themes of it. The 4 stats comment I agree with, but then I won't hit 5 digits of HP. Next patch/tier! Also I use the savage glad in my actual migitaton/def cap sets so it's a net loss for those. There's no reason I shouldn't have farmed two of them though, Elysium has been out what 3 months now?!
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My weapon choice is ideal because most boss fights are super short and I spend the majority of my time spamming heroics. I already said in the video I didn't play the Luci fight perfectly which is why I picked it instead of one that I thought I didn't mess up in. HOJ and other flat procs scale really well with super fast attacking weapons, DMC: Maelstrom isn't out on Elysium but when it is (I think BWL?) I would use that over a HOJ. Raw AP doesn't really help your threat as much as a HOJ would, because I'm using a retardedly fast weapon I actually get a lot of procs out. Same thing with crusader, PPM doesn't work on private servers it's all flat procs (Like UW). While BB is more reliable than mark of the chosen, Chosen is also a lot strong when it's up. When you're doing speed chain pulls your overall damage throughout the entire instance matters more than any specific boss, which is why I use it. Overall it will outperform any trinket until some later BWL+ options. You don't understand the concept of pushing Realmplayers, I want to stress my healers and make them HEAL more so they get HIGHER scores on Realmplayers. It isn't if I should or not, it's that if someone else DOES the healers are LOSING on Realmplayers. This isn't about reducing the already easily healing, it's about increasing it intentionally. When I know threat is established I heroic strike over sunder most of the time. The boss won't live long enough to worry about reapplying it after five stacks, and more dps=faster kill=better realmplayers score. You need to start looking at the game from a Realmplayers point of view not an optimal beating 12 year old content point of view. Even with a full TPS setup if your healers are skilled and popping all mana consumables on CD's it is easy to manage chainpulls in MC. I think I had too many buffs in the video so the fire shield (like my oils of Immo) didn't show or got knocked off. The paladin being out of position is his bad but it's not the end of the world, I have a lot of return damage so it's really hard to notice when I'm missing bits and pieces here or there.
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Your tanks aren't having issues because fights aren't lasting 20 seconds. Go look at Realmplayers on Elysium and see what the top guilds are doing to bosses. This guide isn't directed at people struggling to clear content, this guide is for FARMING, SPEEDRUNS, and REALMPLAYERS pushing. Not progressing or trying to down the boss. if at any point your DPS ever need to 'hold back' you've failed as a tank because people are LOSING dps spots on Realmplayers over your threat.
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It's almost like they haven't bothered to think or learn something new in the decade since classic WoW is out. Better copy what people did when it was a serious question if clicking or not was the way to go for optimal play!
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You just don't really think about what you're doing. Less parry is more rage=more threat=more healing so your healers look better on Realmplayers. You're objectively 'wrong' if you're trying to max TPS.
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I hope you're being silly. When a boss encounter lasts 20 seconds starting with 100 rage is ideal. Anger management is the best prot talent in the game period. It's extra rage on boss fights, in fact around ~100 if you do it right like in my raid streams. You can do as you please but you're gimping your threat. The rest is just nonsense. Toughness decreases your threat/second, more rage=less rage. Best of luck in however you want to do it but I'd double you on KTM.
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Can I come MT for you once <GRIZZLY> gets bored of this stock mangos garbage server? I'm two confident.
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<GRIZZLY> Main Tank leveling/server first POV
Snide replied to Snide's topic in Live Streams & Videos
https://clips.twitch.tv/youmulol/BrightDolphinTheTarFu Come see the epic Nostalruse memes you're missing! -
www.twitch.tv/youmulol I'll probably go for several days with 4 hour naps until I'm 60 and bis preraid, so the stream should functionally be on almost always after the 7th. I'll probably stream virtually everything about the initial race for the server if you random plebs don't annoy me too much. Weeaboo stream warning in advance. If you can't handle that go watch another GRIZZLY pov. Now's your chance to vicariously be a top tier autist.
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Professional Gamer Seeks Girlfriend for Elysium PVP Server
Snide replied to Snide's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
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Once Elysium comes out you should DEFINITELY /join WEEB then. This will be a player-driven channel for anime/visual novel/otaku culture discussion. There won't be any warnings for spoilers, so if you're currently watching something seasonal make sure you catch up on whatever you're viewing before joining. It's a hundred times more fun to level while discussing passions, so definitely give it a shot! Also, everyone's waifu is perfect and not lewd, same with imoutos.
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Why are you even considering playing on Elysium?
Snide replied to Snide's topic in Guild Recruitment
This post doesn't belong in the guild section. I'm seriously asking why people besides <GRIZZLY> would even dream of playing on that server. Honestly, the developers should make applications to get into Elysium to keep out the riff raff and inexperienced won't make it to 60 scum. It'd improve the overall quality of the server. I mean really, Ching Chong will put my mongoose up on the AH without a massive amount of plebs lagging the zones and spewing their gibberish. Elysium should be only for the best of the best.
