Papajimboh 12 Report post Posted January 1, 2017 4 hours ago, krokmitten said: Good luck grabbing professions with no silver :) That ended up not being the issue. I'd forgotten about needing lvl 5. lol But I did run around and got several FPs which I was glad about later. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curado 5 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 This is definitely harder Horde side. I can only manage to get level 4 in just over an hour. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Curado said: This is definitely harder Horde side. I can only manage to get level 4 in just over an hour. Level 4 in an hour is amazing and is why exploration approach is taken on a new server launch. When Nost first launched, with only 2,400 people online that opening night after the servers recovered from a few "hic-ups", it took me around 10 hours to get to level 6 as I was attempting to kill mobs that simply didn't exist. (mind you this was before dynamic respawns). If I could have spent 1 hour getting to level 4 and then just start grinding level 6 mobs just outside the newbie zone, I would have easily gotten ahead of the masses and been better off every day I played. @OP : exploration leveling guide, open (M)ap. Run to areas that are not discovered. Repeat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 Managed to reach 8 after all at decent speed without imp with 2 professions etc. But I had plenty of people to party with at kobolt mine, etc. I surely feel the absence of the imp but it might be worth it at a new server. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roomso 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Rayaleith said: Managed to reach 8 after all at decent speed without imp with 2 professions etc. But I had plenty of people to party with at kobolt mine, etc. I surely feel the absence of the imp but it might be worth it at a new server. Did you quest like normally? Or was that just exploration exp and fedEx-quests (i.e. no mob kills)? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 58 minutes ago, Roomso said: Did you quest like normally? Or was that just exploration exp and fedEx-quests (i.e. no mob kills)? Quests. It would be great otherwise :P But you can go on from the above guide (after doing the 3 SW quests) and use train to get to IF and then explore more at dwarves areas. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 12 hours ago, Undertanker said: mind you this was before dynamic respawns Wonder if this changes things... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curado 5 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) For HORDE I ran it again and without any mistakes I think you can get level 5 in under 2 hours on Horde. I was thinking of drawing up some routes but I feel like it'll be a mess. For Horde you can abuse Spirit Healer rezing for map movement. Use vanilla spirit healer locations or another database to see where'll end up if you suicide into mobs. Generally you get teleported to the nearest GY where you can immediately rez and suicide into moar discoveries! My general route is: take the hidden path to Ratchet from orc/troll starting area BANK your gear in Ratchet if you're melee or it'll all be destroyed and you won't have the copper to repair it. begin exploring the areas around Ratchet, once you get a new area, if it would be quicker to suicide and rez at Spirit Healer do so. once you have most of the areas around Ratchet suicide closer to XR and you'll be able to rez at its Spirit Healer. do the same for Camp T, you can discover areas all the way down to the Great Lift. Then suicide to RFD mobs. do the same in Mulgore at Bloodhoof go grab TB and the flight path TP back to Valley of Trials use the same tactic in Durotar all the way up to ORG once in ORG, reset hearth for there (so you can grab your gear out of bank later.) take zep to UC. at this point you could also take a roundtrip on the STV zep if you see it before the UC one to gain 3 areas and the gromgol FP, but DONT DIE in northern STV. you'll have to make several corpse runs to get back to gromgol due to mobs. after taking UC zep, use the same tactic here as you move into Silverpine all the way to Hillsband, you can even suicide jump off zep to gain an area and teleport to nearest GY. continue to explore until your hearth is off CD to get back to ORG Anyone have ideas for a better route? Edited January 2, 2017 by Curado 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 By the way, if you see the priest video, exp from exploration is more than on Nost now. :S 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everquest 7 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) There is no point leveling to 5 with exploration. All you need is level 3 to be able to solo lvl 5/6 mobs in the area outside the starting zones. Some classes may need to group up and duo them for a bit. Kill exp is much faster than exploration exp. We are doing the exploration because we can't kill stuff. Once we got past that and are able to kill things, we should. Alliance can get to level 3 in 15 minutes. If it then takes 45 minutes more to get to level 5.... you're wasting time. In 45 minutes of killing level 5s you'll get much more exp. Horde is tougher. Getting to level 2 only takes 7 minutes for orcs/trolls if you dip in the water to explore the echo isles and head to razor hill. you'll ding level 2 at razor hill. I'm sure you can take out the level 5s at the Tiragarde keep if you group up. three level 2s can do it no problem. If Tiragarde keep is overcrowded you could decide to run to mulgore as tauren is the least played race. Undead needs to explore quite a bit in tirisfal glades to get to level 2, but after that they can group up to kill level 5 enemies. Tauren should just run straight into Brambleblade ravine. skip the starting quests. group up right away and grind level 4 boars and such. and get the hell out of there once you ding level 4 and move to Bloodhoof. This of course only works if you're able to play the moment the server goes online. If you're unlucky and find yourself in queue.... all of this goes out the window. Edited January 2, 2017 by Everquest 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 Yes but I suspect that the mobs outside starting zone will be camped with parties. People know this. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roomso 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Everquest said: There is no point leveling to 5 with exploration. All you need is level 3 to be able to solo lvl 5/6 mobs in the area outside the starting zones. Some classes may need to group up and duo them for a bit. Kill exp is much faster than exploration exp. We are doing the exploration because we can't kill stuff. Once we got past that and are able to kill things, we should. You are assuming that there will be little competetion for mobs outside of the starting area. If that is the case then yes, grinding mobs will be quicker. You can probably get almost 200 xp/minute during your first 5-6 levels and that is solid. If you however have to wait a lot between kills that is time wasted. Some runs get almost 100xp/minute without killing anything. The runs I've done with no mob-kills have to be considered a worst case scenario. For about 30-35 minutes of my run there might be mobs at level 5-6 around and grabbing as much as you can from those will ofcourse be worth it. It's not all or nothing. It's about finding a way to maximize leveling under the given circumstances. I was there for Kronos 2 release and it was chaos. Every mob from the staring area and around the first town (was Kharanos in Dun Morogh for me) were being farmed, either buy solo players or groups. I'm assuming it will be even worse here. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) I did a merge of the two videos in this thread. My steps: - 2 quests at Northshire - Get quest and give it to Goldshire, bind there - Did not use the priest method but the other one. That is discovered Tower of Azora, Eastvalle camp, swim up till lake, Ridgepoint tower. - lakeshire, you may die here. If you die as you enter, rez at GY, get Lake AND Lakeshire exporations, get FP - Road to Duskwood, you may die before from tarantulas, enter duskwood. if you die, rez at Darkshire. Go a bit north from GY and get cemetary - Darkshire, get FP, a bit north to get Mistmantle manor, take the road towards raven hill. At each little intersection go a bit to the left to explore each one. you need not go too far - at intersection to STV go a bit towards the ogres till exploration - you will die from wolves, spirit rez, discover raven hill go towards westfall. At the intesection get Adel's (or whatever the name). Go towards westfall - Go to the right a bit to get Dead Acre. Discover it and swim abit towards duskwood to get Hushed Bank. back to the left of the bridge get Dust plains - Follow the road. Get Moonbrook then Sentinel Hill, get FP. go towards elwyn, get Saldean's and Jansen. back to the road towards West. - Get all Furlbrow's Mine, Quarry, Alexton. you don't need to get too far away from the road to get these - HS back to Goldshire. Go to SW do the THREE quests there. Don't forget to SELL the wine. you can get spell or profession just from this (like 18copper) - Get train to IF, get FP Go out and explore everything while going to loch... follow the priest video from there to reach Darnasus When I reached Darnasus I was 87% towards 5. And my HS had like 26 minutes CD. That means you need to go deeper in Teldrassil and kill mobs till you HS is off CD and you can do back to leveling at Goldshire... These are not mine. I just combined the two videos. All these was like 1h 10min. Edited January 2, 2017 by Rayaleith 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roomso 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Rayaleith said: I did a merge of the two videos in this thread. My steps: - 2 quests at Northshire - Get quest and give it to Goldshire, bind there - Did not use the priest method but the other one. That is discovered Tower of Azora, Eastvalle camp, swim up till lake, Ridgepoint tower. - lakeshire, you may die here. If you die as you enter, rez at GY, get Lake AND Lakeshire exporations, get FP - Road to Duskwood, you may die before from tarantulas, enter duskwood. if you die, rez at Darkshire. Go a bit north from GY and get cemetary - Darkshire, get FP, a bit north to get Mistmantle manor, take the road towards raven hill. At each little intersection go a bit to the left to explore each one. you need not go too far - at intersection to STV go a bit towards the ogres till exploration - you will die from wolves, spirit rez, discover raven hill go towards westfall. At the intesection get Adel's (or whatever the name). Go towards westfall - Go to the right a bit to get Dead Acre. Discover it and swim abit towards duskwood to get Hushed Bank. back to the left of the bridge get Dust plains - Follow the road. Get Moonbrook then Sentinel Hill, get FP. go towards elwyn, get Saldean's and Jansen. back to the road towards West. - Get all Furlbrow's Mine, Quarry, Alexton. you don't need to get too far away from the road to get these - HS back to Goldshire. Go to SW do the THREE quests there. Don't forget to SELL the wine. you can get spell or profession just from this (like 18copper) - Get train to IF, get FP Go out and explore everything while going to loch... follow the priest video from there to reach Darnasus When I reached Darnasus I was 87% towards 5. And my HS had like 26 minutes CD. That means you need to go deeper in Teldrassil and kill mobs till you HS is off CD and you can do back to leveling at Goldshire... These are not mine. I just combined the two videos. All these was like 1h 10min. There are points to explore in western elwyn (where you kill hogger and a farm). Not sure if you take them early but otherwise maybe you should run to goldshire from westfall and grab those on the way. That way you will save your HS. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damagepy 5 Report post Posted January 3, 2017 Picking flightpaths naked is fun, and not useless, saves time for later, and until lvl10 there is no resurrection sickness when resurrecting at GraveYard. I usually lvl to 9 and then pick most eastern and kalimdor FP, so later when I'm leveling I can travel fast :) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noob257 36 Report post Posted January 4, 2017 On 2.1.2017 at 10:55 PM, Roomso said: There are points to explore in western elwyn (where you kill hogger and a farm). Not sure if you take them early but otherwise maybe you should run to goldshire from westfall and grab those on the way. That way you will save your HS. Good point. I will test this today. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noob257 36 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Okay, i did a new run today and reached Level 5 without any problems. Thank you all for your input. On 2.1.2017 at 10:31 PM, Rayaleith said: - 2 quests at Northshire - Get quest and give it to Goldshire, bind there - Did not use the priest method but the other one. That is discovered Tower of Azora, Eastvalle camp, swim up till lake, Ridgepoint tower. - lakeshire, you may die here. If you die as you enter, rez at GY, get Lake AND Lakeshire exporations, get FP - Road to Duskwood, you may die before from tarantulas, enter duskwood. if you die, rez at Darkshire. Go a bit north from GY and get cemetary - Darkshire, get FP, a bit north to get Mistmantle manor, take the road towards raven hill. At each little intersection go a bit to the left to explore each one. you need not go too far - at intersection to STV go a bit towards the ogres till exploration - you will die from wolves, spirit rez, discover raven hill go towards westfall. At the intesection get Adel's (or whatever the name). Go towards westfall - Go to the right a bit to get Dead Acre. Discover it and swim abit towards duskwood to get Hushed Bank. back to the left of the bridge get Dust plains I did that too. On 2.1.2017 at 10:31 PM, Rayaleith said: - Follow the road. Get Moonbrook then Sentinel Hill, get FP. go towards elwyn, get Saldean's and Jansen. back to the road towards West. - Get all Furlbrow's Mine, Quarry, Alexton. you don't need to get too far away from the road to get these I did that in a different way. I went to Sentinel Hill, got the FP and then went to Moonbrook and followed (more or less) the road in a circle clockwise. I ended up at the entrance of Westfall and went to Elwynn Forest, explored the western part of the Forest, the garrison, the farms and the mine south of Goldshire. I attacked a few mobs, got killed and resurrected at the graveyard of Goldshire. On 2.1.2017 at 10:31 PM, Rayaleith said: Go to SW do the THREE quests there. Don't forget to SELL the wine. you can get spell or profession just from this (like 18copper) - Get train to IF, get FP Go out And after that i traveled to Kharanos, accepted and did the delivery quest for Steelgrill's Depot. I went south, to the starting area of the gnomes and dwarfs. You get a bit of exp for exploring The Grizzled Den (45 exp) and Coldridge Pass (35 exp), but the amount of exp for doing delivery quests in this starting area is absolutely great! I hit level 5 there! Coldridge Valley Mail Delivery part 1: 200 exp Coldridge Valley Mail Delivery part 2: 270 exp Scalding Mornbrew Delivery : 230 exp Bring Back the Mug: 450 exp You also get a delivery quest for Kharanos and there is the quest A Refugee's Quandary which may be very easy, when the starting area is overcrowded with players and every mob is dead. Edited January 5, 2017 by noob257 typo 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roomso 1 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, noob257 said: Okay, i did a new run today and reached Level 5 without any problems. Thank you all for your input. I did that too. I did that in a different way. I went to Sentinel Hill, got the FP and then went to Moonbrook and followed (more or less) the road in a circle clockwise. I ended up at the entrance of Westfall and went to Elwynn Forest, explored the western part of the Forest, the garrison, the farms and the mine south of Goldshire. I attacked a few mobs, got killed and resurrected at the graveyard of Goldshire. And after that i traveled to Kharanos, accepted and did the delivery quest for Steelgrill's Depot. I went south, to the starting area of the gnomes and dwarfs. You get a bit of exp for exploring The Grizzled Den (45 exp) and Coldridge Pass (35 exp), but the amount of exp for doing delivery quests in this starting area is absolutely great! I hit level 5 there! Coldridge Valley Mail Delivery part 1: 200 exp Coldridge Valley Mail Delivery part 2: 270 exp Scalding Mornbrew Delivery : 230 exp Bring Back the Mug: 450 exp You also get a delivery quest for Kharanos and there is the quest A Refugee's Quandary which may be very easy, when the starting area is overcrowded with players and every mob is dead. Nice, what was your playtime when you hit 5? The quest A Regugee's Quandry might seem simple but just keep in mind that you need to loot 3 different items that spawn on the ground, and only in 1 specific location each. I'm assuming those will be even harder to get than mob's. But we'll see, should be quick to notice when you are there. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noob257 36 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Roomso said: Nice, what was your playtime when you hit 5? Doesn't matter, it wasn't a speedrun. I wasted very much time (looking for the route, watching exploring video, reading in this thread, reporting gold sellers) and was even afk for some time. But I guess it takes about an hour, maybe less. I will do this run again and post my /played here. Btw when I do these runs, I have in mind how much different the situation on Elysium will be. Some areas will be completely wiped out and safe, others will be overcrowded with aggressive mobs. Especially in Westfall: I highly doubt that anyone can do an exploration run without dying at least three times on release day. Even if you find a safe route on Nost, it may be a no-go area for the first days on Elysium, so look out for dead mobs. They will be alive on release day. edit: 12 minutes ago, Roomso said: The quest A Regugee's Quandry might seem simple but just keep in mind that you need to loot 3 different items that spawn on the ground, and only in 1 specific location each. I'm assuming those will be even harder to get than mob's. But we'll see, should be quick to notice when you are there. I guess you're right. According to this website, the quest only requires level 2. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?quest=3361 There will be very much competition. Edited January 5, 2017 by noob257 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 5, 2017 Thanks for the input! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tubbylul 1 Report post Posted January 6, 2017 For all gnomes and dwarfs LF your EXP video, make sure to check the first page, I edited the post with a video from Tribe. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noob257 36 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 On 5.1.2017 at 8:12 PM, noob257 said: I will do this run again and post my /played here. Seems like I don't have the time to do this properly. But I did a half-assed run and wasted much time while doing it. Arrived at the dwarf starting zone after 1 hour 10 minutes. I'm very sure now that about 1 hour is realistic. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
relaxvanilla 1 Report post Posted January 7, 2017 I've made a horde side 1-3 exploration guide here: You can take this to 1-4 in a bit over an hour if you also run to Mulgore/Thunder Bluff and go into Silverpine after doing undercity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites