Is the FOV fix bannable?

[Alrik 6]

No one demands anything from the Devs. They don't have to invest time into this.

All they have to do is write in a Topic "Yes, FoV Fix is allowed as long as it addresses nothing else than the according RAM Addresses.

 

I ignore the Rest that was written, i'm too old.

[Zachb34 7]

I'm using it. If they ban me then so be it. But I can't play vanilla anyways without this as I get physically sick with motion sickness. 

[Athena 3]

I'm using it. If they ban me then so be it. But I can't play vanilla anyways without this as I get physically sick with motion sickness.

Nothing wrong with that. Using it at your own discretion as the team has stated. Edited December 21, 2016 by Athena

[quest008 0]

I wouldn't worry about it. Keep using it. If they ban you, then you know this server isn't worth your time due to incompetent anti-cheat devs.

[Athena 3]

Banning for this would be stupid, it's fine but if they choose to specifically target this they need to make an announcement because alot more people use this then this dev team might think, NO OTHER SERVER targets the FoV fix.  

 

The response is still the same as the original Nostalrius. They didn't target it and neither is Elysium at this point and I doubt you have reason to be worried, but it is fair to assume that you will not see an "official statement promoting it" appear, ever.

 

http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=12152&p=77878&hilit=fov#p77690

 

Title: Memory Editing to improve/fix FOV

 

By Daemon:

Every game modification is forbidden and can potentially lead to a permanent ban.

It includes for example:

- wow.exe code modification

- memory editing

- code injection

- API hooks

- data files alteration (mpq)

- ...

Edited December 21, 2016 by Athena

[knecke 1]

Bump. I've searched around and not found any official answer.

Has anyone been banned for this? It should be OK to use, really.
Any update?

[Mimma 10]

Technically it is bannable.

However, I don't know if GMs can actually see this, so it's entirely up to you if you wanna run the risk.

Edited January 15, 2017 by Mimma

[Alrik 6]

Not using it. The Risk is too high for the little Gain.

But i see where they're coming from, if i bump the FoV up on my 21:9 i can basically see whole IF standing at the AH-Entrance.

[noob257 36]

On 20.12.2016 at 5:24 PM, yada said:

The game doesn't need to be distorted playing 16:9 full screen. Here's mine at 16:9 full screen. Looks good to me. All i did was set it to 1920x1080(wide) in video options.

Wait a minute! Is something wrong with my options menu?

[Alrik 6]

Yes it is. I can natively choose 3440x1440 and everything inbetween.

Do you have a second Monitor? If so try following: Pull the videocable of your second Monitor (yes pull the cable, dont turn it off, pull the cable) and restart your PC, then check again in WoW if you can choose 1080p.

 

The FoV is ofc. wrong with 16:9 and even more with 21:9 but it doesnt look distorted or anything, you just see less.

 

Thats how it looks with a Picture taken from my Mobile (ignore the UI, its an alt):

http://i.imgur.com/mc9JKP7.jpg

Its not Distorted at all, but you'd actually see more at the top and bottom with a 4:3 fully zoomed out.

Edited January 16, 2017 by Alrik

[noob257 36]

25 minutes ago, Alrik said:

Yes it is. I can natively choose 3440x1440 and everything inbetween.

Do you have a second Monitor? If so try following: Pull the videocable of your second Monitor (yes pull the cable, dont turn it off, pull the cable) and restart your PC, then check again in WoW if you can choose 1080p.

Thanks, I can now select 1680x1050 (I don't have a HD screen), but it seems that I already played on that resolution, because I'm playing in maximized window mode. I'm an idiot.

[Alrik 6]

You need to do the Settings twice.

Like: Select your Resolution and Refreshrate then hit apply and OK to exit the menu, then you again enter your Videosettings check if the correct values are still there (They should) and press apply again.

Don't know why but my WoW behaves that way and doesn't change the Resolution Ingame the first Time.

[noob257 36]

Nothing changes. But when I switch to fullscreen, my "former" resolution looks absolutely horrible, while 1680x1050 looks familiar.

Obviously that's the resolution I'm playing with since the beginning.

[Yuqq 2]

I've been using the Fov fix since i started playing here, im lvl 20 now so im pretty sure its not bannable and i cant see why it would be since its just a QoL change just like 128 sound channels or sweetfx.

[Alrik 6]

17 hours ago, konked said:

I've been using the Fov fix since i started playing here, im lvl 20 now so im pretty sure its not bannable and i cant see why it would be since its just a QoL change just like 128 sound channels or sweetfx.

How is it a QoL change when i can see 200% more than everyone else?

[Yuqq 2]

5 hours ago, Alrik said:

How is it a QoL change when i can see 200% more than everyone else?

It's no different then if i use lazypig or commands to zoom the camara out super far, i really dont see how this gives you any sort of advantage.

[Vangooch 3]

Don't forget you're playing Vanilla for the 'Vanilla Experience'. Motion blur and all, if you don't feel physically sick you're not getting the authentic experience.

[Klimpen 1]

4 minutes ago, Vangooch said:

Don't forget you're playing Vanilla for the 'Vanilla Experience'. Motion blur and all, if you don't feel physically sick you're not getting the authentic experience.

Using the fov fix actually gives me more of an authentic vanilla experience than not using it, simply because back in the day I used CRT 5:4 monitor, which gave me a proper field of view.

Blizzard didn't account for widescreen monitors when they developed the game in the early 2000s, but they fixed it as soon as widescreen monitors started to become popular.

[CatsCantDPS 6]

I don't use the program, but I can see where it would definitely be beneficial. I feel a bit lacking in FOV (using a BenQ 35" ultrawide/curved, 21:9/2560x1080). I'd say wait for an official word from the staff (even through private message) before use.

[Joogo 0]

To all using this program, please read below.

*Use at your own risk.*

This is considered an outside game program to alter the game and will result in their system throwing a flag if you were to go afk numerous times (If you don't go afk, you are fine). They will research your account and find a third party program being used and it will result in a ban. They can't see the program you are actually using. All they see is that you are running a program outside of the game to alter the game itself and therefore they take the required action, which is to ban your account for using an anti-afk program.

If you have to go afk and don't want to lose your queue, just exit the game, log back in and go afk. The program closes itself once you exit the game. (Some people say logout and back in, but I wouldn't chance it)

 

Edited January 17, 2017 by Joogo

[Yuqq 2]

1 hour ago, Joogo said:

To all using this program, please read below.

*Use at your own risk.*

This is considered an outside game program to alter the game and will result in their system throwing a flag if you were to go afk numerous times (If you don't go afk, you are fine). They will research your account and find a third party program being used and it will result in a ban. They can't see the program you are actually using. All they see is that you are running a program outside of the game to alter the game itself and therefore they take the required action, which is to ban your account for using an anti-afk program.

If you have to go afk and don't want to lose your queue, just exit the game, log back in and go afk. The program closes itself once you exit the game. (Some people say logout and back in, but I wouldn't chance it)

 

Where are you getting this information from?

[Joogo 0]

11 hours ago, konked said:

Where are you getting this information from?

Research I've done and fellow buddies being banned. Only explanation was the FOV program, because they were not using anything else and their in-game attitude was well behaved. They literally broke no rules and both were still banned. After putting two and two together, I came to the conclusion that this was the reason behind the bans. Only happened after they went afk and tried to log back in after being disconnected.

Edited January 18, 2017 by Joogo

[birday 1]

bump

i would love to see this allowed. Id like to buy a 21:9 monitor, but without the FoV fix it's not so cool.. =(

[Sange13 9]

On 12/20/2016 at 2:01 AM, Athena said:

Have fun keeping a list. 

 

Guys, no client modifications are allowed!!!!!11!

 

Apart from:

- FOV, but only within your limited screen space (3.14 equals 3 screens vision even on a 1024x768 monitor)

- Rendering, but not if showing other players easier in PvP or mobs in PvE

- Shaders, but not if showing other players easier in PvP or mobs in PvE

- Models, but not if showing other players easier in PvP or mobs in PvE

- Sounds, but not if supporting the detection of other players in PvP or mobs in PvE

- Maps, but not by removing or replacing objects

- Custom DX9 dlls, but not if using it for hacks

 

Good luck with that...

That's called a slippery-slope argument, and it's a fallacy. They can make an exception without being required to make similar exceptions for other things. It's completely up to their own discretion. However, your posts later in the thread are mostly spot on. I only point this out because nobody has properly corrected it, and it shouldn't be assumed to be accurate (because it isn't).

As for it giving an "unfair advantage," I don't think following Blizzard's example of a uniform limit would be a bad approach to the issue.

Quote

We do not plan to increase the max FOV beyond 103, in any resolution. As a result, this doesn't leave us with a lot of options for 21:9 support. I know this is not the answer our 21:9 players want to hear. But we feel like it would be unfair to 16:10 and 16:9 players if 21:9 gave a substantial FOV advantage.

I think it would be the most fair compromise while giving our more sensitive players some options in dealing with their motion-sickness.

[Alrik 6]

Vanilla looks absolutely fine on a 21:9.

Nothing is distorted or anything, you don't get Motion-Sick by it either.

If you didnt knew the FoV is too small one could think its meant like this.