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On 2017-01-10 at 10:06 PM, Davyjones said:

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an update would be nice? this is stupid...

 

[Davyjones 5]

Announce fourth server on Elysium project,maybe,after its launch extension transfer?

Edited January 12, 2017 by Davyjones

[Slack 4]

By this point, I have to agree that it's not just broken.  There are so many oddities about this situation though.

First, I don't think Nost owners intended for the token generator to only be open for a week or they would have explicitly given us a timetable.

So did it break or something else?  If it broke, Nost owners would have fixed it as others here have said, so I don't think this is the case.

If something happened, then what?  And why the complete silence from the Nost owners given how well they had communicated with the community up to this point?  Here are some theories:

1. Blizzard decided to pursue legal action against Nost owners for releasing the database and code to Elysium.  This would explain the issue with the token generator and the complete silence, if they were legally gagged.  I could see a gag order given the blow back Blizzard endured after the first C&D letter.
2. Something went sour between the Nost team and the Elysium team during or after the transition.  This would explain why Elysium hasn't said much and why they haven't given us more details.  Not sure why Nost owners would stay silent though.
3. Token generator is paused due to population concerns on server.  First, if Elysium was concerned about over population due to transfers they could pause it on their side.  Second, from what I hear there isn't a queue on Nost PVP anymore.  Third, most people will just reroll which doesn't alleviate the population issue anyway.  Besides, neither side would be silent if this was the issue.
4. Token generator is actually broken.  There could be a serious bug that is hard and time consuming to fix but why no communication?  This seems the least likely.

The other oddity is Pottu, the one team member who was the most active on the Nost forums after the server shutdown and who is now on the Elysium team.  

1. On the account transfer announcement thread on Nost, http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44969&start=170, Pottu was actively replying to the community until the day the token generator stopped working.  His last post was Dec 21 on page 18.  It looks like the first post about token issues occurred late on Dec 20.  Strange he posted at least once on each of the first 18 pages and then the token generator stops working and he goes silent for the next 6 pages.
2. On the Elysium thread asking for reserved names to be released on Nost PVP server, Pottu responded with a vague post that the names wouldn't be released and transfers would continue.  How does he know they'll continue?  Why be vague?

The last oddity is the Elysium response.  It seems the summary of their response is "not our problem" and "we've contacted the Nost team and they are aware of the issue".  Why no more details?  Who did they contact?  Was there a response?  What was it?  Have they tried contacting them again?  This simple and vague response seems uncharacteristic given the two teams had to work closely to implement the Nost core and transfer projects and given the amount of Nost staff now on the Elysium staff.

I wasn't on Nost at the very start but a couple of months after.  I've followed and backed them through the shutdown, the petition, the Blizzard presentation, and the rest.  They've conducted themselves as professionals for the most part given it's a volunteer project.  I'm grateful for all the work they put in and their passion on this project.  That said, I'm disappointed my Nost journey is going to end like this: no transfer and no communication.

[omglolnoob 4]

2 variant seems to be the most believable right now.

But i also have another idea. How long is vacation in USA/EU?

Edited January 12, 2017 by omglolnoob

[Healzie 7]

6 minutes ago, Slack said:

By this point, I have to agree that it's not just broken.  There are so many oddities about this situation though.

First, I don't think Nost owners intended for the token generator to only be open for a week or they would have explicitly given us a timetable.

So did it break or something else?  If it broke, Nost owners would have fixed it as others here have said, so I don't think this is the case.

If something happened, then what?  And why the complete silence from the Nost owners given how well they had communicated with the community up to this point?  Here are some theories:

1. Blizzard decided to pursue legal action against Nost owners for releasing the database and code to Elysium.  This would explain the issue with the token generator and the complete silence, if they were legally gagged.  I could see a gag order given the blow back Blizzard endured after the first C&D letter.
2. Something went sour between the Nost team and the Elysium team during or after the transition.  This would explain why Elysium hasn't said much and why they haven't given us more details.  Not sure why Nost owners would stay silent though.
3. Token generator is paused due to population concerns on server.  First, if Elysium was concerned about over population due to transfers they could pause it on their side.  Second, from what I hear there isn't a queue on Nost PVP anymore.  Third, most people will just reroll which doesn't alleviate the population issue anyway.  Besides, neither side would be silent if this was the issue.
4. Token generator is actually broken.  There could be a serious bug that is hard and time consuming to fix but why no communication?  This seems the least likely.

The other oddity is Pottu, the one team member who was the most active on the Nost forums after the server shutdown and who is now on the Elysium team.  

1. On the account transfer announcement thread on Nost, http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44969&start=170, Pottu was actively replying to the community until the day the token generator stopped working.  His last post was Dec 21 on page 18.  It looks like the first post about token issues occurred late on Dec 20.  Strange he posted at least once on each of the first 18 pages and then the token generator stops working and he goes silent for the next 6 pages.
2. On the Elysium thread asking for reserved names to be released on Nost PVP server, Pottu responded with a vague post that the names wouldn't be released and transfers would continue.  How does he know they'll continue?  Why be vague?

The last oddity is the Elysium response.  It seems the summary of their response is "not our problem" and "we've contacted the Nost team and they are aware of the issue".  Why no more details?  Who did they contact?  Was there a response?  What was it?  Have they tried contacting them again?  This simple and vague response seems uncharacteristic given the two teams had to work closely to implement the Nost core and transfer projects and given the amount of Nost staff now on the Elysium staff.

I wasn't on Nost at the very start but a couple of months after.  I've followed and backed them through the shutdown, the petition, the Blizzard presentation, and the rest.  They've conducted themselves as professionals for the most part given it's a volunteer project.  I'm grateful for all the work they put in and their passion on this project.  That said, I'm disappointed my Nost journey is going to end like this: no transfer and no communication.

+1 This, Couldn't have said it better myself my sentiments entirely.

 

[Davyjones 5]

1 час назад, Slack сказал:

 

1. Token generator is paused due to population concerns on server.  First, if Elysium was concerned about over population due to transfers they could pause it on their side.  Second, from what I hear there isn't a queue on Nost PVP anymore.  Third, most people will just reroll which doesn't alleviate the population issue anyway.  Besides, neither side would be silent if this was the issue.

Maybe this.

and ---> Announce fourth server on Elysium project,maybe,after its launch extension transfer?

Edited January 12, 2017 by Davyjones

[sonasol 0]

I got other theory, the token is in some kind of code righ? Maybe people can use it to steal accounts. Dunno how it works or if thats even possible

Edited January 12, 2017 by sonasol

[omglolnoob 4]

i think they are not so bad to not protect their service from some kind of injections.

as a programmer i cant imagine what kind of problems can cause difficulties for three weeks. This is not a problems with the code. And there has been no announcements that gives reason to think that is some administrative problems. Maybe the conflict between Nost and Elysium associated with the opening the new fresh realm(s).

[Hashashinlock 1]

2 hours ago, Slack said:

By this point, I have to agree that it's not just broken.  There are so many oddities about this situation though.

First, I don't think Nost owners intended for the token generator to only be open for a week or they would have explicitly given us a timetable.

So did it break or something else?  If it broke, Nost owners would have fixed it as others here have said, so I don't think this is the case.

If something happened, then what?  And why the complete silence from the Nost owners given how well they had communicated with the community up to this point?  Here are some theories:

1. Blizzard decided to pursue legal action against Nost owners for releasing the database and code to Elysium.  This would explain the issue with the token generator and the complete silence, if they were legally gagged.  I could see a gag order given the blow back Blizzard endured after the first C&D letter.
2. Something went sour between the Nost team and the Elysium team during or after the transition.  This would explain why Elysium hasn't said much and why they haven't given us more details.  Not sure why Nost owners would stay silent though.
3. Token generator is paused due to population concerns on server.  First, if Elysium was concerned about over population due to transfers they could pause it on their side.  Second, from what I hear there isn't a queue on Nost PVP anymore.  Third, most people will just reroll which doesn't alleviate the population issue anyway.  Besides, neither side would be silent if this was the issue.
4. Token generator is actually broken.  There could be a serious bug that is hard and time consuming to fix but why no communication?  This seems the least likely.

The other oddity is Pottu, the one team member who was the most active on the Nost forums after the server shutdown and who is now on the Elysium team.  

1. On the account transfer announcement thread on Nost, http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44969&start=170, Pottu was actively replying to the community until the day the token generator stopped working.  His last post was Dec 21 on page 18.  It looks like the first post about token issues occurred late on Dec 20.  Strange he posted at least once on each of the first 18 pages and then the token generator stops working and he goes silent for the next 6 pages.
2. On the Elysium thread asking for reserved names to be released on Nost PVP server, Pottu responded with a vague post that the names wouldn't be released and transfers would continue.  How does he know they'll continue?  Why be vague?

The last oddity is the Elysium response.  It seems the summary of their response is "not our problem" and "we've contacted the Nost team and they are aware of the issue".  Why no more details?  Who did they contact?  Was there a response?  What was it?  Have they tried contacting them again?  This simple and vague response seems uncharacteristic given the two teams had to work closely to implement the Nost core and transfer projects and given the amount of Nost staff now on the Elysium staff.

I wasn't on Nost at the very start but a couple of months after.  I've followed and backed them through the shutdown, the petition, the Blizzard presentation, and the rest.  They've conducted themselves as professionals for the most part given it's a volunteer project.  I'm grateful for all the work they put in and their passion on this project.  That said, I'm disappointed my Nost journey is going to end like this: no transfer and no communication.

This appeals alot to me. I think Blizzard could be behind it, threatening the people behind Nostalrius with juridical consequences if they would ever speak out on anything regarding this certain topic.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Hashashinlock

[Slack 4]

2 hours ago, omglolnoob said:

2 variant seems to be the most believable right now.

But i also have another idea. How long is vacation in USA/EU?

Could be up to two weeks in the US depending on if they are students or employed.  I'm not sure about EU but depending on the type of job vacation could be north of three weeks.  That still wouldn't explain the silence though.  Viper, Daemon, and Pottu have been seen on the Nost forums multiple times since tokens went down.  It takes two minutes to make a post.

 

32 minutes ago, sonasol said:

I got other theory, the token is in some kind of code righ? Maybe people can use it to steal accounts. Dunno how it works or if thats even possible

This could definitely be higher on my list.  Given that the token is emailed to you and the database is encrypted, this doesn't seem likely but certainly plausible.  That doesn't explain the uncharacteristic lack of communication though.

 

4 minutes ago, Hashashinlock said:

This appeals alot to me. I think Blizzard could be behind it, threatening the people behind Nostalrius with juridical consequences if they would ever speak out on anything regarding this certain topic.

Yea, it seems the most likely thing that can explain both token and communication issues.  But even this is undermined by Pottu's vague indirect post about transfers resuming.

[sonasol 0]

Blizard behind it? We all know this is ilegal, not just the tokens. All that they doing here is ilegal and they not doing because they afraid of juridical consequences?

They can have juridical consequences with all they doing here, not just the tokens

[akalakoukou 1]

 

Please tell us about the token generator

[Wilkedott 1]

@Pottu If you aren't planning on fixing the token generator, say so. It's the part of not knowing that's the most annoying.

[Neó 0]

18 hours ago, omglolnoob said:

again. Tokens generator are belongs to NOSTALRIUS. Elysium can not repair this.

But i asked them why they can not CONTACT to Nostalrius to retrieve the information about this issue. Shenna answered: "We are waiting for the information too. Good bye" and closed my topic. That's all. They do not want talking about it.

Actually referred to the Nost team members that converted over to Elysium...

 

12 hours ago, Slack said:

By this point, I have to agree that it's not just broken.  There are so many oddities about this situation though.

First, I don't think Nost owners intended for the token generator to only be open for a week or they would have explicitly given us a timetable.

So did it break or something else?  If it broke, Nost owners would have fixed it as others here have said, so I don't think this is the case.

If something happened, then what?  And why the complete silence from the Nost owners given how well they had communicated with the community up to this point?  Here are some theories:

1. Blizzard decided to pursue legal action against Nost owners for releasing the database and code to Elysium.  This would explain the issue with the token generator and the complete silence, if they were legally gagged.  I could see a gag order given the blow back Blizzard endured after the first C&D letter.
2. Something went sour between the Nost team and the Elysium team during or after the transition.  This would explain why Elysium hasn't said much and why they haven't given us more details.  Not sure why Nost owners would stay silent though.
3. Token generator is paused due to population concerns on server.  First, if Elysium was concerned about over population due to transfers they could pause it on their side.  Second, from what I hear there isn't a queue on Nost PVP anymore.  Third, most people will just reroll which doesn't alleviate the population issue anyway.  Besides, neither side would be silent if this was the issue.
4. Token generator is actually broken.  There could be a serious bug that is hard and time consuming to fix but why no communication?  This seems the least likely.

The other oddity is Pottu, the one team member who was the most active on the Nost forums after the server shutdown and who is now on the Elysium team.  

1. On the account transfer announcement thread on Nost, http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44969&start=170, Pottu was actively replying to the community until the day the token generator stopped working.  His last post was Dec 21 on page 18.  It looks like the first post about token issues occurred late on Dec 20.  Strange he posted at least once on each of the first 18 pages and then the token generator stops working and he goes silent for the next 6 pages.
2. On the Elysium thread asking for reserved names to be released on Nost PVP server, Pottu responded with a vague post that the names wouldn't be released and transfers would continue.  How does he know they'll continue?  Why be vague?

The last oddity is the Elysium response.  It seems the summary of their response is "not our problem" and "we've contacted the Nost team and they are aware of the issue".  Why no more details?  Who did they contact?  Was there a response?  What was it?  Have they tried contacting them again?  This simple and vague response seems uncharacteristic given the two teams had to work closely to implement the Nost core and transfer projects and given the amount of Nost staff now on the Elysium staff.

I wasn't on Nost at the very start but a couple of months after.  I've followed and backed them through the shutdown, the petition, the Blizzard presentation, and the rest.  They've conducted themselves as professionals for the most part given it's a volunteer project.  I'm grateful for all the work they put in and their passion on this project.  That said, I'm disappointed my Nost journey is going to end like this: no transfer and no communication.

I bow to you for spreading knowledge!

9 hours ago, Wilkedott said:

@Pottu If you aren't planning on fixing the token generator, say so. It's the part of not knowing that's the most annoying.

Plz 4real man... let us know something don't keep us in total ignorance...

[Jubilee 0]

Shame on Nostalrius for not giving any information whatsoever regarding this issue.

[Davyjones 5]

give information after release ZETH'KUR PvP - January 13

I am sure about that 99%

[Maggibesti 0]

It's not broken because they intentionally took it down. Why? Because their database got hacked or leaked. Why you think it went down the around same time elysium posted about frequent hacks and "theory" that the databse of "another" server got hacked? Coincidence? I think not. Wake up, it's not getting fixed, unless they remove the password option and make it account and email only. So the hackers can't get the token without the email. There is a reason for this, of course i'm not blaming them for shutting it down, if that is actually the case, I mean yeah this thing can of course happen. But staying silent? That's not what they should do, let the people know that yu screwed up, try to fix it, find an alternative way. But don't stay silent. I persoanlly got my chars back, but my little nephew wasn't so lucky.

[avoidseven 0]

1 hour ago, Maggibesti said:

It's not broken because they intentionally took it down. Why? Because their database got hacked or leaked. Why you think it went down the around same time elysium posted about frequent hacks and "theory" that the databse of "another" server got hacked? Coincidence? I think not. Wake up, it's not getting fixed, unless they remove the password option and make it account and email only. So the hackers can't get the token without the email. There is a reason for this, of course i'm not blaming them for shutting it down, if that is actually the case, I mean yeah this thing can of course happen. But staying silent? That's not what they should do, let the people know that yu screwed up, try to fix it, find an alternative way. But don't stay silent. I persoanlly got my chars back, but my little nephew wasn't so lucky.

Hmmm...I guess if I see my level 42 priest from Nost that I wasn't able to recover running around selling gold I'll know why.

[darkpenguin 2]

New realm started.

Nost forum down.

Token page become "Token couldn't be generated now. Please try again later" again.

Interesting :)

[Aliencowfrog 0]

interesting indeed

[darkpenguin 2]

Nope, forum up, token page have "encountering technical difficulties" - everything remains as before. Sad

Edited January 13, 2017 by darkpenguin

[Euronymous 2]

Visibility bump for fellow guildmates trapped in token limbo.

The prolonged radio silence reflects poorly on those involved.

Edited January 13, 2017 by Euronymous

[akalakoukou 1]

 

Please tell us about the token generator, the answer from the DOM is different So it advances I think, have you information to provide us please .. @Pottu @Ajinn A reply please

[bafoman 0]

what happen with this tokkens......site is down 1 mounth ago..... we need our chars back ...... :/  

[Davyjones 5]

24 day not working

https://tokens.nostalrius.org