Fury BIS lists BWL

[kwazzy 2]

Hey

I find the gear setups interesting for fury bis, so please share your setups. Is it with or without world buffs, and what race?

Will post some myself later.

[Storfan 24]

Hey

I find the gear setups interesting for fury bis, so please share your setups. Is it with or without world buffs, and what race?

Will post some myself later.

I'll just copy an old post I hade on Nostalrius forum:

 

A BWL BiS-List would look approximately like this:

 

- Onyxia Tooth Pendant

- Drake Talon Pauldrons

- Onslaught Girdle

- Chromatic Boots

- Drake Fang Talisman

- Cloak of Draconic Might

- Striker's Mark

- Master Dragonslayer's Ring

- Quick Strike Ring

- Vis'kag the Bloodletter + Maladath, Runed Blade of the Black Flight

 

Note: The weapon combinations can vary alot though depending on Edgemasters and race. Crul'Shorukh, Doom's Edge, Cromatically Tempered Sword etc.

 

EDIT: HWL/GM items and weapons would also take a few spots here.

Edited December 25, 2016 by Storfan

[Storfan 24]

wait wut? vis'kag over cts? is the proc really that powerful? even so, it would be a better option to go with vis'kag+cts offhand due to the dps/stat differense from maladath

 

As I said, this was a copy-paste from Nostalrius forum. On nostalrius Viskag had a very high proc-rate if I recall correctly making is VERY OP.

[kwazzy 2]

Drake talon pauldrens seems like a big hit loss?

 

In current gear content its possible to trade between 12-17% hit and 980-+1100 attack power. Also there is ways to change crit % a lot.

[Storfan 24]

Drake talon pauldrens seems like a big hit loss?

 

In current gear content its possible to trade between 12-17% hit and 980-+1100 attack power. Also there is ways to change crit % a lot.

With raidbuffs and worldbuffs you'll do fine rage-wise even with 10% hit really. I'd take draketalon over UBRS-leather ones in every situation unless I go bellow yellow-cap.

 

EDIT: Also, draketalon looks badass:)

Edited December 26, 2016 by Storfan

[Lebowski 0]

R14

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx16480x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx14551x927+Beltx19137+Legsx16479x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx12584x1900+Off_Handx12584x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

Non-R14 BiS

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

 

I'd recommend not getting Onyxia Tooth Pendant and instead getting the Onyxia Blood Talisman since the pendant will be replaced.

[kwazzy 2]

Slipry and Lebwski - Your lists reflect my ideal setup aswell.

 

I did some spreadsheets one year ago, and more hit could also give marginal better dps - An item like Band of Accuria instead of Quickstrike for example. Or Boots of Shadow Flame (even better for horde).

[fudgeguzzler 0]

On 25/12/2016 at 2:38 PM, Storfan said:

 

As I said, this was a copy-paste from Nostalrius forum. On nostalrius Viskag had a very high proc-rate if I recall correctly making is VERY OP.

Has any research gone into this? Just wondering since guild is working it's way through BWL and I haven't seen a Vis'kag yet, maybe skip it for CTS if it doesn't hold up any more.

[Storfan 24]

3 hours ago, fudgeguzzler said:

Has any research gone into this? Just wondering since guild is working it's way through BWL and I haven't seen a Vis'kag yet, maybe skip it for CTS if it doesn't hold up any more.

As I'm prot here I havnt gotten my hand on VIskag and thus not been able to test its proc-rate, so no research at all on my part.

[Artimus 0]

On 12/26/2016 at 1:57 PM, Lebowski said:

R14

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx16480x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx14551x927+Beltx19137+Legsx16479x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx12584x1900+Off_Handx12584x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

Non-R14 BiS

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

 

I'd recommend not getting Onyxia Tooth Pendant and instead getting the Onyxia Blood Talisman since the pendant will be replaced.

Just to add to this, as it is my ideal set up as well, if you are world buffed (kings + zg) you can replace pussiant with draconic might and flameguards with t1 and receive equal hit, equal crit, and gain 12ap. 

[Sicknot 0]

On 26/12/2016 at 9:57 PM, Lebowski said:

R14

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx16480x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx14551x927+Beltx19137+Legsx16479x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx12584x1900+Off_Handx12584x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

Non-R14 BiS

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

 

 

I'd recommend not getting Onyxia Tooth Pendant and instead getting the Onyxia Blood Talisman since the pendant will be replaced.

Wouldn't you still use Edgemasters even tho you don't have R14 gear? 

[Storfan 24]

29 minutes ago, Sicknot said:

Wouldn't you still use Edgemasters even tho you don't have R14 gear? 

Not as human with Maladath.

[Sicknot 0]

5 minutes ago, Storfan said:

Not as human with Maladath.

Oh, ofc. 

 

So http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

With Edge and BWL axes would be the best combination for an fury orc right? 

[Lebowski 0]

3 minutes ago, Sicknot said:

So http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

With Edge and BWL axes would be the best combination for an fury orc right? 

yup

[Storfan 24]

9 minutes ago, Sicknot said:

Oh, ofc. 

 

So http://realmplayers.com/CharacterDesigner.aspx?char=Human+Warrior+Female&items=Headx12640x1506+Neckx19856+Shoulderx12927x2606+Backx18541x849+Chestx19405x1891+Shirtx6136+Tabardx19506+Wristx19146x1885+Glovesx19143x2564+Beltx19137+Legsx19402x1506+Feetx19387x1887+Finger_1x18821+Finger_2x19384+Trinket_1x11815+Trinket_2x19406+Main_Handx19352x1900+Off_Handx19351x1900+Rangedx17069x664+

With Edge and BWL axes would be the best combination for an fury orc right? 

That is correct.

[Omakaroni 1]

for orc fully buffed i would go like:

Main hand: Crul'shorukh, Edge of Chaos
Off hand: Doom's Edge
Range weapon: Striker's Mark
Head: Lionheart Helm
Neck: Prestor's Talisman of Connivery
Shoulder: Drake Talon Pauldrons
Cloak: Puissant Cape
Chest: Savage Gladiator Chain
Wrist: Wristguards of Stability
Glove: Edgemaster's Handguards
Waist: Onslaught Girdle
Legging: Titanic Leggings
Boots: Chromatic Boots
Ring 1: Master Dragonslayer's Ring
Ring 2: Quick Strike Ring
Trinket 1: Hand of Justice
Trinket 2: Drake Fang Talisman

[j0ker 0]

Titanic Leggings are in 1.10 patch, amirite ?

[Brynja 1]

Yes.

And Savage Gladiator Chain have different stats before 1.10 (?) also.

And if you want to take Prestor's all the rogues and hunters in your raid will hate you.

[Skitter 0]

On 12/25/2016 at 11:08 AM, Storfan said:

 

As I said, this was a copy-paste from Nostalrius forum. On nostalrius Viskag had a very high proc-rate if I recall correctly making is VERY OP.

I've done some super rough napkin math on guildies proc rates, I'd say 6% on Viskag (I'm erring on high side, might be little lower). Where would this put it for warrior MH weapons now?

 

Edit: have been trying to find nost info on proc %, having no luck

Edited July 29, 2017 by Skitter

[Omakaroni 1]

6 hours ago, j0ker said:

Titanic Leggings are in 1.10 patch, amirite ?

 

3 hours ago, Brynja said:

Yes.

And Savage Gladiator Chain have different stats before 1.10 (?) also.

And if you want to take Prestor's all the rogues and hunters in your raid will hate you.

I'm playing on Anathema, you can go the blue pvp chest and legs instead. If you wanna find BiS list just use the spreadsheet: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/47501-spreadsheet-warrior-aq-bis-and-wep-skill/

[Meitner 0]

On week 30,29. juli 2017 at 9:52 PM, Skitter said:

I've done some super rough napkin math on guildies proc rates, I'd say 6% on Viskag (I'm erring on high side, might be little lower). Where would this put it for warrior MH weapons now?

 

Edit: have been trying to find nost info on proc %, having no luck

(17075,2,7,'Vis\'kag the Bloodletter',32197,4,0,1,676334,135266,13,-1,-1,74,60,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,100,187,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2600,0,0,21140,2,0,1.3,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,'',0,0,0,0,0,1,3,0,0,0,105,0,0,0,'',65,0,0,0,0,0,1)

This is the sql entry for Vis'kag in the open source database. The part of it that deals with the proc is " 21140,2,0,1.3,-1,0 ": 21140 is the spell ID of the proc. The 1.3 that follows 3 entries to the right is the proc per minute value. For a 2.6 speed weapon, 1.3 PPM corresponds to a proc% rate of 5.63%. This roughly corresponds to adding an average of 5.2 DPS making the total about 60.4 DPS.

[TTL 6]

19 minutes ago, Meitner said:

(17075,2,7,'Vis\'kag the Bloodletter',32197,4,0,1,676334,135266,13,-1,-1,74,60,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,100,187,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2600,0,0,21140,2,0,1.3,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,-1,0,-1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,'',0,0,0,0,0,1,3,0,0,0,105,0,0,0,'',65,0,0,0,0,0,1)

This is the sql entry for Vis'kag in the open source database. The part of it that deals with the proc is " 21140,2,0,1.3,-1,0 ": 21140 is the spell ID of the proc. The 1.3 that follows 3 entries to the right is the proc per minute value. For a 2.6 speed weapon, 1.3 PPM corresponds to a proc% rate of 5.63%. This roughly corresponds to adding an average of 5.2 DPS making the total about 60.4 DPS.

And how does it match up against the CTS which has no proc/rng with a higher top end damage and raw stats on it?

[Undertanker 88]

Vis'Kag can crit based off of physical crit and IIRC provides rage based on damage one /30.   This is why Vis'Kag continues to be a very strong weapon for warriors and why if you are on the BWL patch should give CTS to rogues and Fury take Vis'Kag.    Once you have AQ40 on your server, then rogues would want to MH AQR as they get more out of top end damage with SS spam.

 

Though on this server, Vis'Kag is currently limited slightly on it's proc due to the incorrect restriction of a proc can not proc itself (should only be Thunderfury and not all items).

[TTL 6]

On 7/29/2017 at 2:34 PM, Omakaroni said:

 

I'm playing on Anathema, you can go the blue pvp chest and legs instead. If you wanna find BiS list just use the spreadsheet: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/47501-spreadsheet-warrior-aq-bis-and-wep-skill/

ye but full bis is silly way to look at gear among raidingg uilds, Prestor bis forever for other classes while warriors have many other improvements in later raids making it a silly item to consider even if it's marginally better than OTP for patch 1.6. Some people are just too technical about the term "bis" when it comes to a patch to patch basis when people should always consider the logical choices on gear.

[Storfan 24]

2 hours ago, TTL said:

ye but full bis is silly way to look at gear among raidingg uilds, Prestor bis forever for other classes while warriors have many other improvements in later raids making it a silly item to consider even if it's marginally better than OTP for patch 1.6. Some people are just too technical about the term "bis" when it comes to a patch to patch basis when people should always consider the logical choices on gear.

Indeed. I cringe at the thought of a guild giving Prestors to a fury if rogues/hunters still need it.