Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Can we not? All this is going to do is dilute the server population a few months down the line. It solves the immediate problem but it will harm Elysium PvP and it's longevity. This kneejerk reaction instead of waiting a few weeks for the population to normalize is an awful awful awful idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dahlblom 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Based on what? If anything this is the stable and viable option in the long run given the fact of a stable 20k+ pop for 2 weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 It's been one week. This is not viable and stable long term. Most of these people are not going to stick around given previous evidence (Nostalrius original launch). Vanilla does not have good player retention. Further splitting the server populations will do more harm than good long term. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Its a good idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 I respectfully disagree. The vast majority of the players on Elysium PvP will not be sticking around to 60, This is a kneejerk reaction. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everquest 7 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Tell that to the 10k players in queue and the who knows how many more that hit the cancel button because they don't want to deal with that crap. A new server is the only solution. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dahlblom 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Tornadari said: It's been one week. This is not viable and stable long term. Most of these people are not going to stick around given previous evidence (Nostalrius original launch). Vanilla does not have good player retention. Further splitting the server populations will do more harm than good long term. There is not enough of data to draw the conclusion that this realm will be costly in the long term. There are no prior events that could relate to this incredible persistent population. Nostalrius release? Really? It was the start of what we are experiencing now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturn 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Yeah cause i guess more new players won't come. wait... is this a new server?? oh no its a 4th in less than 2 years....... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiji 3 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) So let's say you are right OP. The new server is released and at first the population is ~11k for both servers. A few months down the line the populations of both servers decrease by 4k (that's being SUPER generous to your theory) That leaves both servers at roughly 7k people online at a time on each server. How on earth is that a bad thing???? Edited January 12, 2017 by Quiji 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrik 6 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Yea you know, Nost started with like couple k people. It went steadily up to 10k on PVP, then PVE came it went still up and up and up. Now the fresh Server hit and there are aprox. 20-25k People that want to play there, even if 50% of them quit for good you have 2 Servers with 5-6k Pop. Thats around the sweetspot of Pop. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Velgana 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 It is a great idea imo. The population will become stable in a few weeks and have the perfect amount of players on each realm. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Quiji said: So let's say you are right OP. The new server is released and at first the population is ~11k for both servers. A few months down the line the populations of both servers decrease by 4k (that's being SUPER generous to your theory) That leaves both servers at roughly 7k people online at a time on each server. How on earth is that a bad thing???? Thinking that you will retain 7k active players months down the line is extremely optimistic considering most people playing on these vanilla private servers never reach 60. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturn 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Im hyped, should have a nice stable pop on both servers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturn 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Miss quote Edited January 12, 2017 by Nocturn 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowking 5 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 sitting 6-10 hours qeue fuck that new server ftw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormhart 12 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 It's a good idea if they look into options to merge the servers later down the line if the hype drops. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 All of the "old fresh will die" guys are dumb. A pop of 1k-2k is already HIGH POP. Blizzlike Vanilla had 2.5k MAX pop possible on a server. Stop crying about your 10k pop that won't happen after a while. Even if it goes down to 4k or 5k you still have a DECENT population, the servers are still good to play on. And if worst comes they can merge both fresh anyways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Stormhart said: It's a good idea if they look into options to merge the servers later down the line if the hype drops. Will wreck both server economies. This is not feasible. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiji 3 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Check the twitter New server tomorrow 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydron 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Fail post. You never played Nost? This isnt a new Game which is hyped only at beginning... 80% or more know the game and know vanilla servers... They dont want to play for 1 week and see that the game is not nice to them... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Nelythia said: All of the "old fresh will die" guys are dumb. A pop of 1k-2k is already HIGH POP. Blizzlike Vanilla had 2.5k MAX pop possible on a server. Stop crying about your 10k pop that won't happen after a while. Even if it goes down to 4k or 5k you still have a DECENT population, the servers are still good to play on. And if worst comes they can merge both fresh anyways. Merges are not possible for a number of reasons. All you had to do was wait a month for the people who can't handle the grind to quit and the population would stabilize. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, skydron said: Fail post. You never played Nost? This isnt a new Game which is hyped only at beginning... 80% or more know the game and know vanilla servers... They dont want to play for 1 week and see that the game is not nice to them... I played nost, I've seen all of the released player statistics. Nost went through an incredible amount of players that came and left. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dahlblom 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 The theory of supply and demand should be enough of evidence. /Thread 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, dahlblom said: The theory of supply and demand should be enough of evidence. /Thread Do you understand how supply and demand works? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everquest 7 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tornadari said: Merges are not possible for a number of reasons. All you had to do was wait a month for the people who can't handle the grind to quit and the population would stabilize. That makes no sense! we don't want them to quit! we want those players to play! They won't just leave because of the leveling to 60. They leave because of the ridiculous queue! Make Blizzard see how many people want Legacy! Edited January 12, 2017 by Everquest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
