No Ely to Zeth Transfers - Reason?

[Rouce 3]

Has the dev team stated any reason on why there won't be transfers? I guess they are waiting for the 5k queuers on Elysium PvP to slowly decide a reroll. But wouldn't it be more beneficial to just evenly spread the populations across both realms anyway? Not only in terms of queues, but also server performance, being over-/undercrowded, enabling friends of current players to freely choose the realm their mates are playing on. (Btw. I have 5 friends who haven't started playing yet due to the high queues. I don't think I'm alone in that scenario and that the pop's just evening out due to rerollers might be unrealistic)

Personally I would immediately transfer my character to Zeth'Kur if I could. Not really considering rerolling since I've already spent 40 hours on my Ely PvP main.

 

I get it, there are 2 problems with this:

A) How do you handle existing character names?

B) How do you handle players that had more time playing when it comes to server firsts etc.?

 

I guess you could just put the disadvantage on transfering Elysium PvP players, since they would choose to transfer fully aware of the consequences. I.e.:

A) If you transfer and your username is taken, you have to change it.

B) You're excluding yourself from server first achievements and related stuff.

 

What do you think?

Regards :)

Edited January 14, 2017 by Rouce

[FrozenFire 5]

The devs don't have to explain their reasoning, especially when it's pretty obvious. If you are level 30+ then you shouldn't leave Elysium in the first place, you should stay unless you specifically want to start over. Zeth'Kur isn't for people with high levels it's for people who haven't been able to play Elysium at all because of ques, and for people who haven't got very high level because of how absolutely packed the server has been.

If you wan't to play on Zeth'kur that bad, then do so. Elysium PvP has been up for almost a week now, but even that isn't too long. You and anybody else can easily catch up on Zeth'Kur, especially because currently there are no que times. People are too attached to their level 20 characters and their name that they reserved. And if you are that attached, then by all means, stay on Elysium PvP. But you or anyone else can't complain about Elysium and then refuse to switch servers because you can't get a transfer. 

If everyone asking for a transfer just sucked it up and switched to Zeth'Kur, then both servers would probably be sitting around 10k with little to no ques.

[Rouce 3]

I'm not demanding an explanation, just asking if they stated any. :)

And no, I don't think it's obvious. I've given quite a few reasons on why balancing the population counts now would be more beneficial in the long run. I.e. if only half of the current approx. 15k Elysium PvP players have at least one friend (5 in my case) that yet wants to join them, that would make 7,5k people sooner or later. Players, that will want to play on that specific servers because of their friends. And this is only one factor.

I understand that Zeth'Kur players don't want people that aren't on the same level as them join their realm. This is a problem. But I don't think that this specific Con outweighs the Pros that would come with this. And I believe that you could come up with methods, so that neither side feels ad- or disadvantaged.

[Revo 34]

the staff for sure has nothing else to do than transfering your lvl 20 toon to another server, lul

[Rouce 3]

6 minutes ago, Revo said:

the staff for sure has nothing else to do than transfering your lvl 20 toon to another server, lul

Lel kek zoozle, I r8 8/8.

[rex 3]

7 minutes ago, Revo said:

the staff for sure has nothing else to do than transfering your lvl 20 toon to another server, lul

This. You don't like long queues you can always reroll. Can't believe idiots are actually asking for transfers after 6 days since server release. 

[Rouce 3]

Are you guys really incapable of looking past your tryhard mentality and/or personal advantage and consider the advantages of evenly distributed realm populations?

Although I would like to transfer, I have no problem with staying on Elysium PvP. I'm just worried about server performance, overcrowded game world, queues not shrinking. And the ability of my 5 friends, who haven't started yet due to this specific reasons, being able to actually join and play with me. They have much less time than me and wouldn't sit in 2 hour long queues.

[taladril 43]

The decision is up to anyone currently in elysium: you can either deal with the pop and queue and hope it goes down or you can move. The team has more important stuff to do than to worry about your precious level 20 that you've had for less than a week.

[Rouce 3]

Missed the point again, gj!

[Glenzig 34]

16 minutes ago, Rouce said:

Are you guys really incapable of looking past your tryhard mentality and/or personal advantage and consider the advantages of evenly distributed realm populations?

Although I would like to transfer, I have no problem with staying on Elysium PvP. I'm just worried about server performance, overcrowded game world, queues not shrinking. And the ability of my 5 friends, who haven't started yet due to this specific reasons, being able to actually join and play with me. They have much less time than me and wouldn't sit in 2 hour long queues.

Holy crap! Play on the new server then! Quit complaining. 

[Glenzig 34]

4 minutes ago, Rouce said:

Missed the point again, gj!

I think you missed the point of the new server.

[Thamuz 2]

19 minutes ago, Rouce said:

Are you guys really incapable of looking past your tryhard mentality and/or personal advantage and consider the advantages of evenly distributed realm populations?

Although I would like to transfer, I have no problem with staying on Elysium PvP. I'm just worried about server performance, overcrowded game world, queues not shrinking. And the ability of my 5 friends, who haven't started yet due to this specific reasons, being able to actually join and play with me. They have much less time than me and wouldn't sit in 2 hour long queues.

So why don't you leave the character you had for 1 week to play with your friends on zeth'kur? Are you that attached to that character that it is more important than your friends?

[Kazuma 11]

Because those with cancer shouldnt mingle with aids.

[Glenzig 34]

1 minute ago, Thamuz said:

So why don't you leave the character you had for 1 week to play with your friends on zeth'kur? Are you that attached to that character that it is more important than your friends?

How would he be able to start a thread about that though?

[Rouce 3]

8 minutes ago, Glenzig said:

Holy crap! Play on the new server then! Quit complaining. 

Where am I complaining? I said I'm worried, am playing happily regardless.

If you could stop to get your jimmies rustled or profile yourself with "Level 20 lul/Then y don't u switch" knockout arguments, then maybe we could have a constructive discussion. But we're not. Why are you even visiting this forum? I've described my concerns.

I don't know what I expected, but most certainly not edgy image board-level responses.

Regards

Edited January 14, 2017 by Rouce

[Glenzig 34]

2 minutes ago, Rouce said:

Where am I complaining? I said I'm worried, am playing happily regardless.

If you could stop to get your jimmies rustled or profile yourself with "Level 20 lul/Then y don't u switch" knockout arguments, then maybe we could have a constructive discussion. But we're not. Why are you even visiting this forum? I've described my concerns.

I don't know what I expected, but most certainly not edgy image board-level responses.

Regards

You said you were "worried" about the population. You're not. You're worried about yourself. There are no transfers. There will be no transfers. Deal with it. 

You have not just one but two fresh realms to choose from. One has a queue at the moment, one does not. You also ended your post with the "concern" that you had five friends that wanted to play with you. There is an obvious solution to all of your concerns. Play on the newest server. The one with no queues. The one your friends can play with you on. 

You have been provided with a solution to your "concerns". Take it. 

[Rouce 3]

I was accepting the situation to begin with. None of my posts here is either demanding nor complaining. If you've conceived it differently, then the problem lies in yourself.

[Glenzig 34]

Why did you make this thread then?

[Rouce 3]

Link

[Glenzig 34]

You got your feedback. This is what we think. 

[taladril 43]

Holy cow you guys. Self awareness please! Rounce, here's your answer. Your friends don't want queues. They haven't started yet. Bite the bullet, move to the new server, bring your friends = no queues, happy friends, and yes you starting over. How much did you lose? A week. How much did you gain? Happy friends and no queue ever! There. Problem solved. 

[Rouce 3]

1 hour ago, taladril said:

Holy cow you guys. Self awareness please! Rounce, here's your answer. Your friends don't want queues. They haven't started yet. Bite the bullet, move to the new server, bring your friends = no queues, happy friends, and yes you starting over. How much did you lose? A week. How much did you gain? Happy friends and no queue ever! There. Problem solved. 

I won't. Collected a lot of bags and leveled my profession for them. We will just bother with (and increase) the queue. :)

[evaniwastaken 4]

I think they will look at servers xfers if the queue problem doesn't get resolved.
The new server would be phase 1 of the plan, phase 2 would probably be a server xfer.
That's just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

[Zioma 1]

Server transfers will happen in a month or two. Once there are plenty of 60's and current raid content cleared.

[Glenzig 34]

7 minutes ago, evaniwastaken said:

I think they will look at servers xfers if the queue problem doesn't get resolved.
The new server would be phase 1 of the plan, phase 2 would probably be a server xfer.
That's just my opinion take it with a grain of salt.

Pottu: "

There will not be any transfers. Zeth'Kur now has 5.6k population while Elysium has 10k population. It is slowly equalising between them."

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/32331-need-free-transfers-to-newly-announced-server/

Your opinion is wrong.