Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Greetings to all! Sheepstick and Malconi will be hosting a 1v1 Tournament for BOTH Horde and Alliance! Date: Moved to weekend of Jan 28th will be updated with better info soon. There will be 24 upto 48 player slots depending on player interest. I will be using Challonge as a public tournament tracker for our brackets, as well as a fight order. We will be streaming the tournament so all can watch as players fight to become the best 1v1'er on our server. There will also be a video of the tourney uploaded to youtube for anyone who doesn't catch the event live. On the streams will be high end video, commentators, cookies and hookers.The event will likely last 3 hours. Spectators will not be allowed and must watch from the stream. From my past experience in previous duel tournaments on this server and others, griefing has been a problem. But we have taken hard steps to prevent this and believe we will have a smooth tournament. Streamer 1: Malconi Streamer 2: Commentator 1: Commentator 2: _______________________________________________________________________________ Buy-in and Prize Pool: There will be an buy in of 30 gold, 100% of which will go into the prize pool. The prize breakdown will be: 1st: 50% + 200 Gold 2nd: 25% 3rd + 4th: 12.5% each _______________________________________________________________________________ How to register: You will need to send an ingame mail to either Sheepstick (Horde) or Sheepwand (Alliance) In the mail you need to include 30 gold, your player name. _______________________________________________________________________________ I will be hiring a few positions in order to make the viewing experience better. They can be horde or alliance and any level. A streamer: Must have a good enough computer to stream on twitch/hitbox at 720p. Minimalistic UI. Click on the participants, and just be a camera for the tournament. You'll need to be able to include the commentators as well. Pay: 200 gold. Commentators: Must have high end pvp knowledge and understand what is going on / why good players do certain things. You just need to commentate on fights you're interested in and the final rounds. Pay: 300 gold each. I will be looking to have 2 commentators, just provide opinions and explain wtf is happening in fights. Must have a microphone as well obviously. Guest commentators for a fight or two are welcome as well. Contact Sheepstick or Sheepwand in game for this. _______________________________________________________________________________ Rules and Regulations: Spoiler All Players need to be able to speak in english.Everyone needs to have access to discord (website is fine). Discord is required because I need to be able to speak to both horde + alliance players, make announcements and organize people. Everyone must be online before 6:00 PM EST. If you plan on being a little late, you can contact me in game. Matches will be randomly generated and posted publicly on Challonge. It will be constantly updated as well. The First round or first 2 rounds (depending on # of participants), will be best of 1. All matches will be direct elimination Afterwards all rounds and fights will be best of 3 fights. Do not leave the tournament arena, If you are called up and are not present, it will be a loss. So bring everything you need (pots, talent spec, soul shards). All fights will be /duels. If you forfeit the duel by being out of the area, you lose. If there is abuse of this, a judge can DQ the abusing player. We are not looking for duels to be won this way on purpose. In best of 3's, there will be a 5 min break inbetween matches to drink up, buff up, change trinkets. From end of fight to accepting the new duel. If you have long CD's, I suggest to use them strategically. If a duel is interrupted, it will be restarted. UNLESS there was a clear victor (ruled by a judge). The upcomming 2 duels will be announced ahead of time so players will have prep time (fully buffed and ready to fight) It should not take more than 1 min to start the next match. I do not want the tournament to last 5 hours. If you need to short afk or something, contact a judge. We might work with you (because were fellow human beings), no promises. I have a tournament to run. No world buffs or non-personal castable buffs. IE no Arcane Intellect on a warlock. No precasted protection pots. All cooldowns will be allowed in best of 3's. No cooldowns 30 mins or longer on best of 1's. IE no recklessness or LOH during a best of 1. We will make this extremely known so no one forgets. We will be lenient on rules, however any abuse will result in losses/DQ's. Allowed / Unallowed items. Players will be able to use both engineering and potions. There are some additonal rules for these. But most of Engineering/short-term potions will be allowed Spoiler ALLOWED: Pots that give you instant or short term buffs (Major Healing, Mighty Rage Potion, Free action potion, Liminited invuln pot) will be ok. Also ok are Elemental protection pots (if they are cast after duel starts) since they take up a pot CD. Jungle Remedy (has a CD I believe). NOT ALLOWED: Pots with buffs >2 mins are not allowed. For example, Elixir of Shadow Power, Winterfall Firewater, Elixir of Mongoose will NOT be allowed. IE Buff pots. Also NOT allowed are Noggenfogger, Poison of Elixir Resistance (no cd I believe), Oil of Immolation. Flasks, Buff pots (+25 agi). Engineering Items / Other Items not allowed: World Enlarger, Arcane Bomb, Rocket Helm, Mind Control Cap, Discombobulator ray. Additionally no Horned Viking Helmet. IE Super long ~free CC. I am banning from-inventory-use items as well. NO Magic Dust, Large rope net, Flash Bomb, non-hunter/lock pets + minions (ie no battle chicken,explosive sheep, alarmo bot, dog whistle etc). The above also includes many 1 time use quest rewards used from inventory: NO M73 Frag Grenade, wax candle (save it for patchwerk), wail of the Banshee, Crystal of Zin'malor. ETC. No food buffs (scorpid suprise, stam food, mp5 food). No helpful debuffs (Curse of Recklessness, scorpid suprise) Anything Equippable is allowed unless *specifically by name* mentioned.Allowed: First Aid Items, grenades, anything equippable (spider belt, skull of impending doom, tidal charm, Barov Peasent Caller), class based items (Mana ruby, healthstone, thistle tea, rogue poisons) _______________________________________________________________________________ Fight Rules: Spoiler Players start 30 yards away from each other. Do not start before the 3 second timer finishes. Rogues will have guaranteed openings against every class at the start of the duel. No AOE'ing them out of stealth. Start within 10 seconds to avoid time/sap draining shields. Don't sap at the start. Druids will have guaranteed openings (if they wish) as stealth cat form at the start of the duel (except against rogue). Warriors will have guaranteed charge opening against non-stealth classes at the start of the duel. No pulling them into combat before the inital charge. Start 25 yards away. When it is Warrior vs Warrior, both warrs start 5 yards away from each other. They cannot charge until they have engaged in melee combat atleast once. In Rogue vs Rogue, both rogues start un-stealthed ~5-10 yards away and cannot stealth until they are put in combat. Paladins cannot have reckoning stacks from pre-duel. Priests cannot use Mind Control. Stealth classes may not sit in stealth/vanish for longer than 15 seconds. This rule is loose but please do not push it intentionally. We do not want you waiting in stealth for a cooldown. Keep in mind your opponent knows this timer, and might start aoeing at 10 seconds in. There will be 2 judges: Sheepstick and my co host Malconi. We will have the final call on everything. Including power to DQ, give a warnings, or change small rules mid tournament. We will strive to be fair and unbiased. Our decisions will be made to create fair environment, as well as speed up the tournament if needed. If there are rule violations (not time based) but items or cooldowns. Take a screenshot of it (while not facing the ground) and upload it and send the link to a judge. I reccomend finishing the duel first. If there are any questions / suggestions please feel free to post them below or contact me ingame on Sheepstick (Horde), Sheepwand (Alliance), Malconi (Alliance). I'm on like 10 hours a day and easily reachable. Edited January 20, 2017 by Sheepstick 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) reserved Q & A Why allow potions and engineering? Vanilla is inherently unbalanced. Potions and engineering adds an extra degree of options, allowing for some classes to fare much better than without. Making the general rock papers scissors not so clean cut anymore, and moves the odds closer to 50:50 overall. This also lets players use more of their pvp skill, which is what were all here for. Are you a scam artist? I'm quite certain an organized scam like this would be a permaban. I'm not looking to lose my BWL geared mage for 1.5k gold. I farmed up a bit of gold from old nost, and I am looking to spend my gold to make a cool in-game event. Why is discord required? I need a way to communicate to all players, both Horde and Alliance. Having a server with all the players would be extremely helpful in making sure the tournament starts off and continues smoothly, while allowing for adaption incase it is needed. It lets all players talk in a general chat, while having the option to listen in on the commentary happening if they are interested. TBH I had never heard of discord on old nost, but nowadays 90% of guilds I know of use discord so most players already have it. If one doesn't want to install it, they can always use the web app. What's with the rogue/warrior rules? These rules aim to minimize the effect of personal lag, server lag, complete RNG, and most importantly stopping fights from being stealth fests. A stealther will get an opener if he wants to. It might take 15 seconds or 9 minutes of running around in a circle. I'll just help speed the tournament up by giving them the opener 10 seconds in. For warriors, not having the initial charge will be a huge detriment. It is just an effort to make it slightly more fair. For the Rog v Rog or Warr v Warr, this is to remove the complete RNG along with the huge advantage for a Euro with 20 ping vs an American with 175 ping. This rule was also used in Kronos I 's 1v1 tourney and my friends that particiapted said it worked out pretty well. Edited January 16, 2017 by Sheepstick 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohhgee 3 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Allowing potions/eng this time around is definitely a good idea. If more time is given between duels (2 mins for coil but not 5 mins for Iceblock/Blind/Reflector/PvP trink?) then I'm in. EDIT: unfortunately cant attend because of my work schedule. rip Edited January 18, 2017 by Ohhgee 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 Some rules are pretty weird, I agree. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinosaurus 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 Hey good initiative, Nostalrius definitly lacked organized events i would like to register for it but i have few questions/remarks 1- as Ohhgee said, why no eating/drinking? its always been allowed in casual duels and ppl have always played accordingly. I see no reason to forbid that. 2-rocket boots AND gnomish boots banned? 3- thistle tea for rogue+ free opening (+ preparation ofc), isnt that a bit too much? Cant we even move to try to spot him? Anyways, signing up as paultrouble 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I've talked with a few guys in-game for further opinions and will be changing some rules. Eating + Drinking will now be allowed. Again nothing that gives you buffs. Engineering rocket boots will now be allowed (Goblin and Gnomish). I will be looking into ways to make time between duels longer to allow for more useage of 10 min CDs. Thank you to the above, any suggestions are helpful Edited January 16, 2017 by Sheepstick 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Good stuff. Need a lot of advertisement until friday evening ! Thank you for organizing this again. Was a blast to watch last time. Maybe you should increase prize breakdown a little bit. 50% of prize pool seems a bit low. Some players would not bother to participate without a higher possible gain (those rolling on thousand gold already for instance). Considered 60 or 70 % ? Would attract way more participants (and you only have 3 days until the event). Any particular reason for "Don't sap at the start." ? I can't see why this rule is here, especially if you're allowing Polymorph / Fear and whatnot for other classes. You should allow sapping (it's a core part of the class gameplay and duel plan) since the rest of hard CC is also allowed, but precise the opponent must be engaged/damaged within 20 secs or something of duel start. What's happening in case of high server lag situations / crashes during a duel ? Edited January 17, 2017 by Slicy 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 5:43 AM, Slicy said: Maybe you should increase prize breakdown a little bit. 50% of prize pool seems a bit low. That is a fine idea. I will be adding +200 gold to the 1st place winnner while keeping current prizes. With only 3 days left to go we are still looking for many more participants. Slicy, you should join up mate! On 1/17/2017 at 5:43 AM, Slicy said: Any particular reason for "Don't sap at the start." ? I can't see why this rule is here, especially if you're allowing Polymorph / Fear and whatnot for other classes. You should allow sapping (it's a core part of the class gameplay and duel plan) since the rest of hard CC is also allowed, but precise the opponent must be engaged/damaged within 20 secs or something of duel start. What's happening in case of high server lag situations / crashes during a duel? It is just sapping at the start of the duel, anytime after is fine. This is to prevent shield draining/just adding time to the duel when a rogue will already be opening. If a rogue was going to open 12 seconds after the sap.... just open the first time? Most likely a duel restart, something like that will fall under judge's discretion. We will also change time between duels to 5 minutes, to balance out the difference in cd length between classes. I will also be lowering max players to help account in keeping tournament length not too long. Only 3 days left boys, good time to signup! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 Alrighty thx for your answers. Really good that you take into account the point Ohhgee made about CDs. As for the 12 secs opening after a sap, there are lots of things you can do within 12 secs on a sapped target. I guess it's not that common or bit too niche anyways :P 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerina 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I agree with Slicy. You should make sapping at the start of the duel Allowed, however only if it's not to waste time of the opponents shields/barriers/etc (Which the judges will find obvious since no actions but sapping a target 3 times is going on) since you can build up combo points while the target is sapped for a better opener with Expose Armor allready on the target VS heavy armor targets (Warriors,Paladins,Shadowpriests), also making a huge diffrence in duels vs Mages and other potential counter classes, not to mention the oppotunity to get screwed by Priests or an Orc(Racial) RNG stun resist having the option to cheapshot twice for a safe opener agianst those game changing counters eliminating you in first duel due to silly RNG (ex fighting Orc Warlock who will coil u after stun resist on opener = loss of 30g) or Hunter instantly scatter shotting you into a trap. Also taking into consideration that allowing atleast the first sap will show the diffrent opening strategies and skill caps of the Rogue competing since the participants doesn't choose their own battles. - In short Reconsider allowing sap, if not used for intentional abuse of wasting opponents absorb effects. Also i was thinking whether or not the following items not metioned is allowed: Restorative Potions, Living Action Potions, Anti-venoms, Juju Flurrys. After that being said nice seeing you guys taking the initiative of making a tournament happening allways exciting to watch and/or being apart of it :) Edited January 19, 2017 by Cerina 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rippah 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 What about Engineering Trinket reflectors frost/fire/shadow? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 14 hours ago, Rippah said: What about Engineering Trinket reflectors frost/fire/shadow? Yup! Anything engineering not specifically disallowed will be allowed. Including for example a mortar or a deathray or reflectors. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheepstick 1 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) We will be moving the tournament to next weekend. Next mid-saturday probably. We are doing this because of a lack of sign-ups. I was honestly suprised that we did not have enough players. With all the cartel/mafia guys, premaders and the thousand or more of R8+ pvpers? We hope another week of planning and advertising will allow more players to learn of this tournament and prove their mettle with organized PvP. As well as a high initial gold prize pool. And with Anathema's population not being so high anymore, a more peak time tournament on the weekend should not have too much lag, as well as be a better time for more players. My man Malconi will be taking over of the tournament, as I will be stepping away. Edited January 23, 2017 by Sheepstick 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uhvoidme 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2017 So as alliance who do i mail to register? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazuma 11 Report post Posted January 24, 2017 Haha I remember this to be a huge gankfest, hopefully some staff will moderate this event atleast a little bit. Could be a great promotion for the server aswell. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uhvoidme 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2017 only asking because sheepstick said he/she was stepping down so idk how to enter now as ally. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted January 25, 2017 Probably to Malconi based on : "My man Malconi will be taking over of the tournament, as I will be stepping away." ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinkage 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2017 MMMMMMMMM....POTIONS 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uhvoidme 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2017 On 1/25/2017 at 5:02 AM, Slicy said: Probably to Malconi based on : "My man Malconi will be taking over of the tournament, as I will be stepping away." ? thought malconi was horde and i dont have a horde char.. Now i know 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malconi 0 Report post Posted January 26, 2017 Announcement : The duel Tournament will be delayed for a while. I want to make it clear as possible it is really difficult executing something like this without a proper team, once we get trustworthy ppl I will make a forum post atleast 1 week before Basically its delayed until we can be confident that we have everything setup and full advertisement of it 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLXX 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2017 Quote In Rogue vs Rogue, both rogues start un-stealthed ~5-10 yards away and cannot stealth until they are put in combat. easy insta blind/rocket helmet/mc cap/xxxxxxxxxxxxx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx & xxxxxxxxxx best rules shitty tournament is shitty 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slicy 11 Report post Posted January 27, 2017 Rocket helmet / MC Cap / Magic dust and that kind of items are not allowed. Also, you can break a blind rather easily. I don't understand why you would QQ about this rule. You prefer getting spotted out all the time by a human rogue with perception ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites