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12 hours ago, Neversmiled said:

 

The problem is that if horde make a premade - 80% of alliance premades will dodge it, they (devs) need to mark dodgers with deserter debuff so the count of premades will descrease dramatically

Patch 1.9.0 When a player leaves a battleground before it concludes, they will be unable to re-enter any battleground queue for 15 minutes.

Welcome to progressive vanilla. Deserter debuff should be abolished at all realms.

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On 1/27/2017 at 5:04 AM, Bieb said:

Basically, what i'm understanding is your only feedback to this is : 'don't solo queue, go full premade if you want to play BG's'

Now what i believe is if solo queuers and premade groups had any sort of system matchmaking, it would be more enjoyable for EVERYONE.

I don't see what's fun in 5 capping and smashing afk players with a full 15 man premade.

Same problem occured on retail vanilla. It was not as noticeable because people didn't understand honor system and thus only 1 group was made of active rankers. I don't think you'll find remedy for that as even if you force "solo q" it will be x% made by solo rankers that were rejected from premades for some reason and the only thing ranker cares about is honor/hour. If those solo q games were to end up a 25-30min 3;2 AB games those solo rankers would just go semi-afk or run around aimlessly to loose fast cause the way system work is that its the speed that matters. Ofc u get more if you win but if choice is between winning once every 30min or loosing fast 5 times then u get more honor loosing. Gotta deal with it... bgs are place to grind honor for ranks, its not "true pvp". 

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EKSDEEEEEE  Boiiiiiiiiiii.

 

Bring the memes to the casa boys.

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В 27.01.2017 в 07:54, Emptora сказал:

Why don't you get a premade going on Horde side and go head-to-head with them instead of this?

 

В 27.01.2017 в 07:54, Emptora сказал:

Why don't you get a premade going on Horde side and play empty games with 0 alliance because they dodge you?

fxd

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On 1/30/2017 at 3:47 PM, Neversmiled said:

 

The problem is that if horde make a premade - 80% of alliance premades will dodge it, they (devs) need to mark dodgers with deserter debuff so the count of premades will descrease dramatically

that would be brilliant... simple fix that would actually prevent premades from actually dodging once the queue pops.

I was watching an Alli premade on twitch once to see what how they worked. Their group had a spotter, they only went in if they were 100% sure they were facing a pug, or they dropped the queue. Absolute gayness lmao... I didn't think it was that bad.

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All of you flaming the OP are completely missing the point.

Due to the evolution of players over the past 12 years, and the size of the population of these servers there are always multiple premades running. The OP is correct, PvP Sucks on Anathema, and its going to suck on Elysium if the Dev's dont do something about it that is "not bliz like".

Being IN a premade sucks (because its boring, honor farming without any real skill or actual PvP - sorry to offend all you rankers but you need to face facts, sure your good players but what your doing doesnt require skill it requires time) 

Solo queuing Sucks (because you get farmed by a premade 80% of the time).

This isnt about whether someone is to shit to get into a premade, its about the fact that PvP is a key part of the game, by having no realistic chance of having fun PvP - games where the teams actually try, where they arnt just there to farm honor, we are losing half of the game that we all have come back to play.

 

@Dev's - I dont know what the solution is, but you have not created a vanilla like PvP experience, the larger population cap, and the evolution of honor farming has made battle grounds a horrible experience for 95% of the player base..

 

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9 hours ago, snawfu said:

rip lads

 

oh and to clarify, didn't take the picture; just reposting it here ))

Yes, dodging is super annoying, shitty, and lame, but the system allows for it.  It sucks, but that's the system.  Alliance just rolling over if it's a horde premade is also lame, but if that's what they want to do, they should be able to.

I have an issue with win-trading, if the alliance is directly colluding with the horde to dodge/trade fast wins.  if the appropriate proof was found, I hope this was what the players were suspended for.  If players were suspended simply for dodging, I don't agree with that; fix the system that allows players to be shitty, not pushing players for abusing (but not exploiting) a system.

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