killerduki 54 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Keep the Upvotes and remove the Downvotes. If people don't like something then they should not even Vote. Let the Elysium Page stay clean from negative effects , comments and offtopics like Nostalrius used to do back in the days. Everyone is on their intentions for their own opinions , but there are some minority of 30 (individuals) around who downvote regardless of Statement/Opinion/Topic . Any Negative sign around the Project ignored will lead to high Toxic server , with high Toxic server there are extreme consequences at the end. We all know how Wowservers Reddit is today , especially with Vote Manipulations etc. /Kind regards Killerduki Edited March 17, 2017 by killerduki 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duks 3 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 I agree with this Killerduki, Negativity attracts negativity. If someone disagrees with something its better they vocalize it in a post anyways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) look at my negative rating just from people disagreeing with me in this one thread alone: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/41454-buff-thunderfury-the-not-so-legendary-weapon/ even though everything I said was spot on Edited March 16, 2017 by Theloras 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Can't say I'm surprised that Killerduki and Theloras are one of the first to bring up this issue. I disagree though. I think downvotes provide an avenue to show criticism. You'd have less of them if you didn't repeat yourself five times in that one thread alone. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, taladril said: Can't say I'm surprised that Killerduki and Theloras are one of the first to bring up this issue. I disagree though. I think downvotes provide an avenue to show criticism. You'd have less of them if you didn't repeat yourself five times in that one thread alone. cuz their argument was flawed - you can't cherry pick which items get buffed/nerfed downvoting was removed because of flagrant abuse by people like Holystrike who downvoted any post either Duki or I wrote - the same happened here Edited March 16, 2017 by Theloras 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 That's fine. That's your opinion and you made it. Then you made it again. And again. And again. Then brought your wife up cause she got doxxed? Make your point and leave it at that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, taladril said: That's fine. That's your opinion and you made it. Then you made it again. And again. And again. Then brought your wife up cause she got doxxed? Make your point and leave it at that. calling for me to be forum banned is fine by wallave and plask going after my wife again is fine? I didn't violate the ToS PS Holystrike got forum banned for flagrant downvoting abuse FYI Edited March 16, 2017 by Theloras 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duks 3 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 The beauty of the internet is people of a wide range of opinions on subjects have the ability to discuss and debate. "+1/-1" doesn't honestly add anything to the debate. That was all I was saying. In my personal opinion its better to vocalize your opinion than have a +1/-1 system as conversation leads to understanding :) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, Duks said: The beauty of the internet is people of a wide range of opinions on subjects have the ability to discuss and debate. "+1/-1" doesn't honestly add anything to the debate. That was all I was saying. In my personal opinion its better to vocalize your opinion than have a +1/-1 system as conversation leads to understanding :) couldn't have said it better 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 I will change my opinion slightly. Certain sections of the forum should not have voting. Such as guild recruitment. Areas like that, any voting shouldn't have impact and would have consequences that could be manipulated to affect a guild's legitimacy and people wouldn't have control over it. However I think voting for example in class sections is very valuable. That way the community can show strongly where some information is considered accurate and quality and some considered incorrect or misleading. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holykrew 5 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 If there is UPVOTE system there should be always DOWNVOTE system. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Downvoting is a bullshit metric. easily open to abuse and here's why. Before I did anything to you: taladril Shifter of Shapes Member +46 343 posts After looking up and downvoting only a few of your posts: taladril Shifter of Shapes Member +40 343 posts This is just me showing the failing of the downvote system - not trying to $hit on you or abuse it the way Holystrike did to both Duki and I back in December. The forum moderators removed downvoting because of this and it was for a very good reason. Edited March 16, 2017 by Theloras 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Ah so you downvote brigaded me? Point made I guess? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, taladril said: Ah so you downvote brigaded me? Point made I guess? I just reversed it - you're back to taladril Shifter of Shapes Member +46 343 posts But yes, I just wanted to illustrate that it isn't a very good metric to judge a poster of the value of what they write given the fact that it is so easy to abuse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) 9 минут назад, Theloras сказал: isn't a very good metric to judge a poster Better than sole postcount, as postcount is even easier to abuse. Get better soon. Complain if you need, you're allowed to. Edited March 16, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Each account is limited to 10 a day too though so it's not like reddit where it's unlimited. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, taladril said: Each account is limited to 10 a day too though so it's not like reddit where it's unlimited. that's fine but I could unleash every Ret/Prot Paladin from each server to FCUK with you if I wanted to 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Theloras said: that's fine but I could unleash every Ret/Prot Paladin from each server to FCUK with you if I wanted to And you are asking why people are saying you should be banned on this forum. I mean I'm not trying to be a jerk but step back and take a fresh look at yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, taladril said: And you are asking why people are saying you should be banned on this forum. I mean I'm not trying to be a jerk but step back and take a fresh look at yourself. I'm not threatening you - merely pointing out how the downvoting system can be abused by people who tell all their friends/guildmates/fellow trolls to downvote someone and pass through the 10 vote cap per day system in place 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Ok. Sounded like a threat but ok. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, taladril said: Ok. Sounded like a threat but ok. no sorry for the confusion 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ohnoes 3 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Theloras said: calling for me to be forum banned is fine by wallave and plask going after my wife again is fine? I didn't violate the ToS PS Holystrike got forum banned for flagrant downvoting abuse FYI How's that good old land whale doing today? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) @taladril This is example how downvoting brigade work in Class section and why it should never be allowed : https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/21737-random-paladin-discussion-only-regarding-paladin-issues-and-stuffs-related-to-paladins/ /Kind regards Killerduki Edited March 17, 2017 by killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artan 14 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 So fake internet "moneys" are a thing now? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
