Black lotus changes

[zedrez 0]

So as of recently there have been changes to several of the most sought after herbs in the game whit increased spawn rate (black lotus/dreamfoil) and a few more.

while the Elysium team is in the middle of all this herb changes why not take the moment to fix the lotus spawns in Alterac Valley aswell? at this moment in a fresh AV the horde team is guaranteed to pick up the black lotus at 4 out of the 6 possible spawns. That is in no way fair.

It should either be 2 for horde 2 for ally and 2 that both team fight for. Or 2 for horde and 2 for ally and no more.

This seem like a fairly easy fix. either simply remove 2 of the lotus spawns. Or my preferred way (probably a bit harder to fix) to wait 5seconds longer whit opening the horde gate at start of the match as this would make the 2lotuses that are supposed to be in the middle to actually be in the middle and fought for by both teams.

Tought and/or other ideas?

[Haestingas 30]

The very first thing you say is  wrong. Currently the horde has a lock on THREE SPAWNS, Ally have a lock on TWO SPAWNS, and the troll flag spawn is a free for all.

[zedrez 0]

15 minutes ago, Haestingas said:

The very first thing you say is  wrong. Currently the horde has a lock on THREE SPAWNS, Ally have a lock on TWO SPAWNS, and the troll flag spawn is a free for all.

That is only partly true, 9/10 times when it is a troll spawn, the lotus is picked by the horde even before the alliance team can make charge up the hill for it. The only reason the horde team would not get it is because they would just stand around waiting for someone to charge up the hill.

Even if 2 alliance players would lay 100% focus on running to troll spawn it would whit 90% certainty be picked by horde even before they were close enough to shoot/attack the hordes

[Haestingas 30]

I've done well over 100 lotus races at this point, and the horde has only coordinated a SINGLE TIME to grab the lotus before the ally had a shot with the trolls.

[zedrez 0]

I don't know what kind of teammates you got into whit if what you say is actually true. I  always make sure to have i guildmate whit me in case the lotus would spawn at trolls so we can run in instantly, stupid really as even before we can start running up the hill i see the lotus is gone on the map taken by the horde.

[Nadlek 0]

just remove black lotus from av completly?

[gambinho 11]

wtt 1 lotus spawn for the heavily alliance favored av layout. i also want paladins and a counterpart to winterspring frost saber for horde.

[zedrez 0]

3 hours ago, gambinho said:

wtt 1 lotus spawn for the heavily alliance favored av layout. i also want paladins and a counterpart to winterspring frost saber for horde.

I don't know how paladins and frost sabers is remotely relevant to this post about black lotus in AV, as for the layout of AV you must have missed the fact that horde doesn't even have to take a single shot from 3 of the ally towers and only have to be bothered by 2 elite mobs tops, while as the ally team have to run through 2towers and multiple elites and patrols. but yeah whatever ally is OP in AV...

[Haestingas 30]

HAHAHAHHA OMG man you are clueless. Guess what everything isn't equal in vanilla, tough shit man I guess you alliance will just have to be happy with having the advantage in all of pve except one boss viscidus, all pvp and have to accept that you get 1 less BL to herb in AV. Tough luck you entitled idiot, anyone with half a brain knows AV is unbelievably tilted in ally favor.

 

[Lorilay 12]

Why does it matter if one faction gets one more black lotus spawn in AV? It's not like the price on the horde is going to have much of an effect on the alliance prices or vice versa.

[gambinho 11]

53 minutes ago, zedrez said:

I don't know how paladins and frost sabers is remotely relevant to this post about black lotus in AV, as for the layout of AV you must have missed the fact that horde doesn't even have to take a single shot from 3 of the ally towers and only have to be bothered by 2 elite mobs tops, while as the ally team have to run through 2towers and multiple elites and patrols. but yeah whatever ally is OP in AV...

ok, never in my life have i seen anyone more clueless

[flowqz 34]

On 17.4.2017 at 0:38 PM, Nadlek said:

just remove black lotus from av completly?

this.

[zedrez 0]

On 2017-04-17 at 5:53 PM, Haestingas said:

HAHAHAHHA OMG man you are clueless. Guess what everything isn't equal in vanilla, tough shit man I guess you alliance will just have to be happy with having the advantage in all of pve except one boss viscidus, all pvp and have to accept that you get 1 less BL to herb in AV. Tough luck you entitled idiot, anyone with half a brain knows AV is unbelievably tilted in ally favor.

 

Seem like the only clueless person here is you as you cant give any facts to your statement, not to mention that you lower yourself to namecalling..

[zedrez 0]

On 2017-04-17 at 6:34 PM, gambinho said:

ok, never in my life have i seen anyone more clueless

Please do enlighten me then, if you really think otherwise then what i just wrote. Instead of just insulting me like a little kid would have.

[zedrez 0]

On 2017-04-18 at 5:22 PM, flowqz said:

this.

Not a bad idea, would be more pvpers and less herbers in AV

[Haestingas 30]

Except if you knew anything at all about this game you would know that no herbs = no minefields. They are currently using the OG AV which in retail was only around for a couple of months. If they don't use the OG then both mines + herbs go bye bye. Considering you are such a fool that you think av isn't alliance favored, then think about if the backdoor had no mines.

My source is that I have gotten 5 alliance to av exalted, and 3 horde to av exalted. I played retail from day 14- AQ, nost from week 1 throughout, Kronos during the shutdown. So when I say that alliance is unbelievably favored that's because I've played both for a ton of time, and it's crystal clear that alliance have a dramatically easier time.

You are obviously an inexperienced vanilla wow player which is why so many people are "namecalling" you. You demand changes to things you don't even understand. Next time you post something maybe you should research what you are talking about before making yourself look like an idiot. 

[chase_le_mofo 1]

who cares mages gonna abuse BWL trinket to get it anyway

[zedrez 0]

On 2017-04-19 at 6:51 PM, Haestingas said:

Except if you knew anything at all about this game you would know that no herbs = no minefields. They are currently using the OG AV which in retail was only around for a couple of months. If they don't use the OG then both mines + herbs go bye bye. Considering you are such a fool that you think av isn't alliance favored, then think about if the backdoor had no mines.

My source is that I have gotten 5 alliance to av exalted, and 3 horde to av exalted. I played retail from day 14- AQ, nost from week 1 throughout, Kronos during the shutdown. So when I say that alliance is unbelievably favored that's because I've played both for a ton of time, and it's crystal clear that alliance have a dramatically easier time.

You are obviously an inexperienced vanilla wow player which is why so many people are "namecalling" you. You demand changes to things you don't even understand. Next time you post something maybe you should research what you are talking about before making yourself look like an idiot. 

Ohh boy i don't even know where to start here. First of, i did not in any way demand changes now did i? i simply suggested herb changes and the reason why so don't even go there. secondly, inexperienced? mate i have been doing end tier raids in WoW since vanilla so cut it pretending like i don't know shit. as for the pvp part i had a r13 UD mage on retail and the same on Feenix. Now i have 2 60 Allys on Anathema and whit a severe amount of time spent pvping on both factions i can honestly say that the horde side had far more advantages than the Ally side in my opinion.

As for the backdoor now having mines while it used to have not, remember that the backdoor jump shouldn't even be a possible route to go as blizzard never intended for 40 people to walljump in order to skip 2towers and such. 

 

[Haestingas 30]

Again it shows how beyond stupid you are. You realize throughout all of vanilla you could split pull Van with all marshals up and kill him?

 I'm in this video btw, and blizzard didn't give a flying fuck about the backdoor or this strategy. In vanilla they supported being clever to outwit your enemies and didn't cater to crybaby GIVE ME EVERYTHING people like yourself. We used this strategy throughout ALL of vanilla and blizz never ever stopped us.

[zedrez 0]

21 hours ago, Haestingas said:

Again it shows how beyond stupid you are. You realize throughout all of vanilla you could split pull Van with all marshals up and kill him?

 I'm in this video btw, and blizzard didn't give a flying fuck about the backdoor or this strategy. In vanilla they supported being clever to outwit your enemies and didn't cater to crybaby GIVE ME EVERYTHING people like yourself. We used this strategy throughout ALL of vanilla and blizz never ever stopped us.

How am i being stupid coming whit ideas/thought based on my experience of the game?

And about vann, that seems fair, the ally side can do the same whit drekk, i feel like you are trying to bash me for things i haven't even said, pretty sad honestly.

As for calling me a crybabY GIVE ME EVERYTHING is also rather silly as i simply stated my toughs and did not in any way demand nor cry for change.

peace out mate!

[Pottu 290]

We have no plans on changing Alterac Valley in any manner at this time.