Xaph 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 Theloras seems to be the resident expert, so this is somewhat directed at him. Do you happen to know if any procs other than lifestealing or Kalimdor's Revenge, like the frost and shadow oils scale with spell power? As a side, I've read a lot of the theory craft behind yours and Saphael's spell dmg ret pally build, but I can't see how 2h scaling isn't superior w/ weapons that have lifestealing procs. Cheers, Xaph 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Xaph said: Theloras seems to be the resident expert, so this is somewhat directed at him. Do you happen to know if any procs other than lifestealing or Kalimdor's Revenge, like the frost and shadow oils scale with spell power? As a side, I've read a lot of the theory craft behind yours and Saphael's spell dmg ret pally build, but I can't see how 2h scaling isn't superior w/ weapons that have lifestealing procs. Cheers, Xaph the life drains are currently bugged and only scaling at 43% but will soon be fixed to scale at 100% I have not tested shadow or frost oils however 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fardragon 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 4 часа назад, Theloras сказал: the life drains are currently bugged and only scaling at 43% but will soon be fixed to scale at 100% I have not tested shadow or frost oils however Hey mate) SoR from JoCr scales 50%? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaph 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Fardragon said: Hey mate) SoR from JoCr scales 50%? No, the coefficient is 9.2% x weapon speed for 1h and 10.8% x weapon speed for 2h 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafale 6 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 14 hours ago, Theloras said: the life drains are currently bugged and only scaling at 43% but will soon be fixed to scale at 100% I have not tested shadow or frost oils however Is the proc rate good? Someone here (http://rogerkarlsson.com/blogs/wow/lifestealing/) said that it should be : Chance on hit (%) = weapon speed * 7.87 (average) @Theloras can you give us your results on the proc rate? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Xaph said: No, the coefficient is 9.2% x weapon speed for 1h and 10.8% x weapon speed for 2h that's for the SEAL - Judgement of Righteousness scales at 50% 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Rafale said: Is the proc rate good? Someone here (http://rogerkarlsson.com/blogs/wow/lifestealing/) said that it should be : Chance on hit (%) = weapon speed * 7.87 (average) @Theloras can you give us your results on the proc rate? Neretzek is quite good for SoR Reck spec - I usually get 1 proc per bomb and when it gets fixed to scale at 100% of spell dmg it will hit for 500-600 shadow dmg in my gear and crit for 800-900 plus heal me for the same amount :) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaph 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 What's your dps like w/ Neretzek? I imagine that 2h ret with spell scaling proc would be strong dps, better than hunter at least. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted June 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, Xaph said: What's your dps like w/ Neretzek? I imagine that 2h ret with spell scaling proc would be strong dps, better than hunter at least. smiter and i will compare it against traditional SoC ret once life drains are fixed to scale at 100% of spell dmg and post results then 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafale 6 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 @Theloras do you lose reck charges when you switch weapons? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Rafale said: @Theloras do you lose reck charges when you switch weapons? here on elysium yes you do - whether thats blizzlike or not I cant say for certain seeing as most of the points listed in the blue post have been found to be incorrect: http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-paladin/1069149.htm 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rafale 6 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 So, when you re reck spec, you should never switch to shield+1H or your reckbomb will be very low.... Mmh the spec loses so much with that... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starkiller 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2017 But you'd only want to use a shield vs rogues or warriors, both of which will get owned no matter if you use a 1H or 2H weapon. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites