How much AP is 1% crit chance worth for a kitty?

[Ghamarro 1]

How much AP is 1% crit chance worth for a kitty?

[Razorwynd 1]

the standard lists say 1% crit = 22 ap

Howver, AP is a flat DPS increase but Crit is a percentage DPS increase, thus crit gets more valuable the higher your damage out put is

 

 

[blisslfutz 0]

As Razorwynd said the increase depends on your gear.

When you do 100 dps wihtout crits 1% crit chance will increase your total dps by 1%. Then one crit will be equal to 14ap. When you do 200 dps 1% crit will be equal to 28 ap.

But you need also to consider your current crit chance to calculate the increase and your hit gear. And crits give you also an othe bnous (more combo points, more rage), which are hard to calculate correctly

[Ghamarro 1]

Does 1 AP give 1 DPS? Also, when I look at the "Damage Per Second" in my Character Tab, does that number take into consideration my crit chance or is it showing what my current autoattack DPS would be if I had 0% crit?

[Ghamarro 1]

Does a linear equation describe how the worth of 1% crit in terms of AP increases relative to my current AP so that you could plot y=mx where x would be my current AP and y would be the amount of AP 1% of crit is worth with said x AP on me at the moment? Or is there some kind of diminishing return applied to it after a certain point to change the curve from linear into a geometric one? If it is a linear equation all the way through, what constant value is the slope m?

[taladril 43]

check out this website for some info for you. http://tangedyn.pbworks.com/w/page/19362776/Old Front Page

[Purplerains 0]

@taladril this is off the topic but but I had never seen that website before. According to the chart on that site (http://tangedyn.pbworks.com/w/page/19362772/Healing Efficiency) R2 & 3 HT are the most mana efficient spells at the higher levels of +healing (+300 healing and beyond). Is it effective in actual gameplay to spam HT R2 (raid/group healing especially)? If so, at what point of +healing in your opinion?

Obviously more goes into healing than just mana efficiency but thought I'd ask your take.

[taladril 43]

Personally for me R2 is too low to be an effective heal. It's HPS is really low and it loses a lot of the +heal efficiency cause of its low level of spell. R3 is a quite good spammer and is extremely efficient. 

[Ghamarro 1]

On 29.6.2017 at 1:25 AM, Razorwynd said:

the standard lists say 1% crit = 22 ap

Howver, AP is a flat DPS increase but Crit is a percentage DPS increase, thus crit gets more valuable the higher your damage out put is

 

 

Can I use the "Damage Per Second" value on my Character Sheet and multiply that with 1+c where c is my current critical strike change to get a good dps value for my gear? And then do the same with another set and compare the values I get and choose the bigger one?

[Ghamarro 1]

On 30.6.2017 at 3:17 AM, taladril said:

check out this website for some info for you. http://tangedyn.pbworks.com/w/page/19362776/Old Front Page

I'm having a hard time undertsanding all the formulas in there. I'm just looking for a simple factor that I can multiply my current total AP with to get the amount of AP that 1% of crit is worth at that point.

[Nirinia 0]

As said before there is no simple way of converting crit to ap precisely. The closest approximation to calculate how much dps 1% crit would do is to take your current dps and multiply by 1.01.. Also 14 ap = 1 dps. The dps on your character sheet is purely your auto hit w/o crits

[Ghamarro 1]

Is the increase in the white autoattack "Damage Per Second" value on the Character sheet relative to the incease in my real DPS in a way that if I say swap on a new gear and I see that my "Damag Per Second" on my Character sheet doubles, does that mean that my real DPS against the same enemy also doubles if I keep my rotation and other DPS effecting stats like +hit and +crit etc identical?

[Nirinia 0]

No, only the portion provided by your white hits will double, the rest of your abilities deal a set amount of damage and, on most, a bonus based on your ap. The only way your ability dps would double is if your abilities all required nothing but attack power.

TL:DR: your white dps will double, your yellow dps will just increase

[Razorwynd 1]

Ghamarro, you want a simple answer to a really complicated problem without being fully aware of all of the details. I suggest the first thing you do is get a dps addon like DPS mate, and see for yourself how much certain stats affect your total dps.

There are just simply way to many things to consider to give you a simple answer.

Also what don't you like about the druid gear spreadsheet link at the top of the druid forums?  That gives you a reasonable starting point to figure out which item is better.

[Ghamarro 1]

19 hours ago, Razorwynd said:

Ghamarro, you want a simple answer to a really complicated problem without being fully aware of all of the details. I suggest the first thing you do is get a dps addon like DPS mate, and see for yourself how much certain stats affect your total dps.

There are just simply way to many things to consider to give you a simple answer.

Also what don't you like about the druid gear spreadsheet link at the top of the druid forums?  That gives you a reasonable starting point to figure out which item is better.

I somehow managed to miss that. That spreadsheet you just linked pretty much saved my life. Thanks! Also, I'm starting to make some sense out of this too. http://tangedyn.pbworks.com/w/page/19362776/Old Front Page