Attracting New Players

[AnuniteV 0]

No, i'm not suggesting a cash shop idea at all. I also don't think a Cash shop would attract more players either.

After looking at Deceitful's video ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12MoDPiHGk

I got to thinking about possible situations to help, because i for one REALLY enjoy playing on Elysium and i don't want to see it die.

 

So what i was going to suggest to the Admins to at least think about is...

A boosted XP Event. There are many players that i see in streams or r/wowservers who are curious about Elysium and want to move from whatever garbage server they're currently playing on, however they don't want to do the leveling process all over again. It's really tedious when you think about it, 6-8days played (sometimes longer) back to back from nost to kronos to elysium, it gets old fast. Not everyone is like me who overly enjoys the leveling process more than end-game content, and that's okay because everyone's different!

 

"we cannot break a promise we've made: to leave this world untouched from outside, let it develop naturally, without artificial modifications from the staff." 

 

While this was in response to the community asking if faction transfer could be available in response to long queue times, i can also see it relating to this as well.

 

This is probably going to be the BIGGEST hurdle in making this xp event idea a reality. Many Pservers in the community (specifically Vanilla servers) have this same goal in mind as well. The only 3 servers worth playing on at the moment are Kronos, The Rebirth, and Elysium. Kronos and The Rebirth have both had some kind of XP experience gain in the past in hopes of attracting newer players to go on their server.

 

The outcome of these events? It worked! These events weren't permanent events either, they lasted for a very short period but in that time they attracted players. With blizzcon around the corner i think it's the perfect time to implement something like this sooner rather than later. I don't have an exact perfect time frame, but with AV coming out and DM being released, definitely before BWL releases. So i would say possibly if the event started soon and lasted for the duration of the year (since the next 2 months are big holiday months and many won't be able to invest the time into the game as they have the past ~2months).  

 

There are many players who i see quit daily because they're unable to get dungeon groups for lower level dungeons and figures "the server is dead if i can't get a group for BFD/RFK" or can't get groups together to do Elite quests in The Wetlands/Hillsbrad. This event will bring an influx of new lower level players, possibly bring back older players who quit halfway through the 60 grind. 

 

Now i'm also not saying players should be able to get to 60 in 1 day either, it should still take some resonable amount of /played time but should definitely not take the 7+ days it requires currently. I have never played on a boosted exp rate server so i don't know how these things work for the most part, 3-5x rates maybe? I have no experience on it so i can't give you guys a proper idea about it.

 

Now i don't know if everyone would be fine with this. I know there's a lot of people who will have the "It took me 8 days to get 60 and it should take you 8 days too!" mentality but let's face it, what's the point of being 60 if eventually there will be no one else to play with due to population declining? 

 

As a fellow 60 on the server i don't care if people starting off got an exp boost, i like to see dungeons being ran on my server and BGs popping. It means the server is active.

 

" In the past, the Valkyrie administration acted apart from the player community, but right now I see that we can't rely only on ourselves. So I ask you, the players, to listen to our worries in the same way we pay attention to yours. The player count is dropping daily. I believe that if we want to work on a playable server for people who actually need it, we must work together."

 

Let's get the community involved and work together then! If the majority of Elysium's community thinks it's a great idea as well as the admins of the server, then why the heck not? What do we have to lose Vs. What do we have to gain?

 

Lose = We tried an idea to boost population, didn't work and we're back at square 1 thinking of new ideas

Gain = Gain an influx of players and make our community bigger

 

One thing is for certain though, we must act FAST and come up with a decision sooner rather than later. We really can't sit on this for a couple of more weeks. 

Edited October 16, 2016 by AnuniteV

[killerduki 54]

Feenix had similar issues and their Ignorance fallen them for this problems.

 

You don't have to do special Advertisements or Rewards/Transfers whatever in order to fix the problem honestly.

 

Majority of the former people quit only because of 2 Reasons perhaps 3 :

 

1# Pathfinding ,2# not properly scripted Mobs/Quests/Bosses and 3# fast killing (easy raids) due to "Blizzlike" HP ..

 

You don't have to boost or award or whatever to the people , all you need is to fix the problem

 

Speaking about easy Raids is part but this is not biggest problem and maybe not a problem at all (considering some facts from Kronos).

 

Main problems are Pathfinding and Quest scripts for newcomers , many of the Quests around are Take/Complete by default without some sort of Blizzlike "Action" and "Events" (Example is Missing Diplomat,The Attack and many more chain or solo Quests/Scripts).

 

"Giving People during Leveling/Adventure Blizzlike Feelings will make them Hype and play in server" - Reason why/how Nostalrius got Hype for people.

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited October 16, 2016 by killerduki

[j9a2per1990 32]

For me and many, many people is only one reason why we play here, at Elysium. Only one. Elysium DON'T have any from this shits! And for me it's still better option play with 500-1000 people who have really like our old game than have big FUNserver!

[Motorbreath 923]

 

For me and many, many people is only one reason why we play here, at Elysium. Only one. Elysium DON'T have any from this shits! And for me it's still better option play with 500-1000 people who have really like our old game than have big FUNserver!

 

Sorry, but I'll have to double that.

[TheFishyOne 9]

I agree with Duki. Fixing pathfinding and quests which are currently broken will do so much more to attract (and keep!) players than a gimmick like an exp bonus.

As far as custom changes to make raid targets "harder," tread carefully. Once you make one custom change, it becomes that much easier to make another. If Blizzlike stats on mobs are too "easy," take the opportunity to try new strategies. Let that Prot Pally or Feral Bear MT in a raid! Let that burnt out Shammy go DPS! There ARE ways to breathe new life into old content, you just have to get creative.

[Execc 2]

For me and many, many people is only one reason why we play here, at Elysium. Only one. Elysium DON'T have any from this shits! And for me it's still better option play with 500-1000 people who have really like our old game than have big FUNserver!

If the population decreased to 250 players, would it be still good to you? Just like on Valkyrie before it died

[j9a2per1990 32]

Valkyrie was only for Russia, this was main problem

[Philipangoo 2]

I just started here after finding out about the server on WoW Private Server Reddit under Vanilla servers.  Didn't really find it through an advertisement, but I had heard of other Private server projects from friends, like Nost and Kronos. 

[Clownshoes 0]

An Exp event, one that is properly advertised in advance, is a great idea to bring players here. Now that pathfinding and other major bugs are fixed, you need SOMETHING to bring players back. No one is going to come back on their own. An Exp event, coupled with some marketing about all of the latest bug fixes and stability issues, would help bring new players.

 

Elysium is more stable and bug-free than Kronos 2 but to gain players back you have to do some kind of event, exp event makes the most sense. Just make sure it is heavily advertised along with the improvements to the server.

[killerduki 54]

Since Pathfinding is fixed and i welcome that so much, still i find Synchronization as big issue , you can see "NPC" Caster stay at position "A" but in reality he stay 10-30 yards far at position "B" .

 

You can't attack or kill him, you will end up dead or attacked by mob and this is big issue especially for Newcomers that willing to leveling and questing.

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited October 20, 2016 by killerduki

[Razien 0]

both exp boost for some period can work  also more hardcore raids and pve content  

 

but also a huge problem is that the server is never properly advertised  , we need both   and to let to know old players that the server fixes some serius problems

 

but the really  biggest issue is its popularity  we need youtube reviers to d oa review  and generaly advertise the server in many sites and very popular channels  

 

generaly anything that works combine that with  blizzcon 5-6  and  promises in the rigth direction about content etc

[Razien 0]

lets bug dodgy kebap  alex and other you tubers to do a server review  name the you tuber here 

[Clownshoes 0]

An alternative to a straight 7x Exp event is I think what they did on Nost -- increase the rested XP generation rate, and extend rested XP to 4 levels instead of 2.

 

So, allow players, when camped out of the game, to generate rested experience twice as fast as normal, and allow rested experience to build up for a total of 4 levels, instead of 2.

This will encourage not only new players, but also will get some current players more interested in leveling alts, which will help increase the 1-50 population. 

[Aures 9]

This project must have his own label.

Edited October 23, 2016 by Aures

[Mathiasfolmer1 7]

Having increased exp is NOT a good idea imo. I came here for blizzlike experience as most other players also do. If i had lets say 7x exp rate i would leave the server in seconds. Whats the point in playing with increased xp rate or retail? no point in being max lvl in 1-3 days since the lvl process is a big part of the game. This is just my opinion on the xp rate. 

[Tjaz 11]

Increased XP rate is probably the worst decision for a private server. It will ruin everything. If it's bugfree and really blizzlike (Not like Kronos, but better) the population will grow. So far I've seen 500+ people online and that's a great start to become big.

[Mathiasfolmer1 7]

xp boost would ruin the vanilla experience for sure! 
Besides there has been 800+ people online today cause of alot of new players joined in. Elysium is growing atm!

[Charax 0]

I might try out the server depending on what Nostalrius announces after Blizzcon.

If you do an XP event, I will definitely not play here. It's stupid to taint the server by using non-Blizzlike gimmicks.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Charax

[Mathiasfolmer1 7]

They announced on twitter yesterday, that they will not implement XP boost.

[Vay 1]

I might try out the server depending on what Nostalrius announces after Blizzcon.

If you do an XP event, I will definitely not play here. It's stupid to taint the server by using non-Blizzlike gimmicks.

if they don't do something fast, server will be dead before end of the month. nobody wanna play on a 300 pop server, can't you understand that ?

[Mathiasfolmer1 7]

Vay server is growing, try login and see for yourself instead of spreading toxic cancer

[Shenna 1135]

An event where experience is boosted, is directly contradicting with our goal of creating

an authentic vanilla experience, and thus such an event is never going to occur.

 

Regards,

Elysium