Cheap respec

[фткyн 1469]

How bout?

[Syff 23]

Blizzlike.

[фткyн 1469]

They are fixing many blizzlike things to non blizzlike, dmn hunter solo farm, rat catcher flute for example, av horde backdoor.

I playing on private vanilla severs more than 6 years, and i think 50g respec is worst thing on vanilla, you can't pvp with pve spec.

[Aquamaria 1]

I'm all in favor of a lower respec cost. It would definitely be a huge incentive for people to be more active in PvP.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Aquamaria

[JCVader 1]

Well, that's one of the main gold sinks in the game so I think it should stay as it is.

[taladril 43]

Lowering respec cost lowers the gravity of the choice of what type of character you play. If you make it cheap then classes like hybrids can easily change roles and focus frequently and the interesting hybrid builds no longer are viable options. Vanilla had good reason to have respec at 50g. If you don't like it then you should play a class that doesn't need to respec often or at all.

[Drain 19]

Like anyone else I've ever seen asking for this to be nerfed or removed, you haven't suggested anything better to replace it with. It serves an important purpose in the game, and unless you have a better idea to accomplish what it does; the answer should be no. But people who only care about themselves don't bother to wonder why a mechanic is there in the first place; they see it only as an inconvenience and thus removing it could only be good. It's this kind of logic that has turned the game into what it is today.

[Undertanker 88]

This is always a touchy and debatable subject, more so than people commenting on adjusting rates and world queuing.

 

As a non-PVPer and I only tank; but raid with people that like to PVP, I feel I am a bit more neutral on the subject.

 

It is one of the biggest gold sinks in the game, yes.  On the contrast, it is only a gold sink for those who want to be optimal in both PVP and PVE.  Those who only do one or the other do not have this issue/concern.

 

That being said, making these respecs more viable would then take away from the identity of a PVE character if they can simply go healer/dps, or tank/dps depending on who logged on that night with limited repercussions.  The back and forth in a PVE situation reduces the importance and satisfaction of having an ALT.

 

PVP can still be fun and you can causually rank to around R10 while you are in your PVE spec so you can help your guild raid.   If you plan on going past R10, you most likely enter a different pre-made group that focuses high rank, and will be required to be optimal spec.   Your guild should be understanding of your honor-grind goal and give you the dedicated time/space needed to accomplish your ranking goals and not shun your 70% effectiveness in PVE due to it.   If you wipe on an encounter with 3-4 people in a pvp spec, you didn't wipe because of them.  You have other things about that fight that need to be re-evaluated and pointing the finger at an active ranker is just a cop-out.

 

 

Now things that could be done to adjust for this:  Again I don't care for any of this, so don't down vote me to hell but just some thought:

 

Respec cost decay - Going x about of time w/o a respec, your cost stays the same or drops one level.  

 

This doesn't help the people that actively want to swap to PVP spec between PVE raid days.   So doesn't help much for the goal people are attempting to address.

 

Allow a respec to be purchased with AB/WSG/AV honor tokens(or badges what ever they are called) or the normal gold amount - This one seems to an idea that would address the issue AND avoid PVE people only from respecing back and forth acting as a duel spec toon.   Make it to where they have to turn in 3 of each or something of that nature, similar to the call to arms turn in.  

 

This would promote more BG pvp in the BGs that are not for that specific weekend, or people ONLY doing WSG, as they need to get their AB win (or 3 losses) before their PVE raid day as well to avoid losing 50 gold if they have to respec for raid.  Also it pushes more AV participation rather than "get my rep and never come back".   These people would want to get 6 tokens of each, so they can spec to PVE for raid, and back to PVP after.  People that only respec to PVP to do world PVP only would be forced to anti-up/farm gold unless they stock pile some tokens (which you can only have 20 of each at a time IIRK).

 

Again, I don't care for any of this, as I "dance to one song, and one song only".  But the second idea I posted seems to be legit and focuses on getting these people that argue "respec so I can PVP" to ACTUALLY PVP IN BATTLEGROUNDS", and not use it for PVE duel spec abuse, or world PVP/ganking.  Raiding with full consumables is expensive, couldn't imagine adding 100 to 200 gold a week just to get into a proper pre-made to get my honor cap for those R10+ who do both.

[фткyн 1469]

Well, that's one of the main gold sinks in the game so I think it should stay as it is.

i had 0 respecs on nost.

 

Lowering respec cost lowers the gravity of the choice of what type of character you play. If you make it cheap then classes like hybrids can easily change roles and focus frequently and the interesting hybrid builds no longer are viable options. Vanilla had good reason to have respec at 50g. If you don't like it then you should play a class that doesn't need to respec often or at all.

Good gm never pick feral or oomkin for progress raids if he have rogue or caster for fill the spot.

 

Like anyone else I've ever seen asking for this to be nerfed or removed, you haven't suggested anything better to replace it with. It serves an important purpose in the game, and unless you have a better idea to accomplish what it does; the answer should be no. But people who only care about themselves don't bother to wonder why a mechanic is there in the first place; they see it only as an inconvenience and thus removing it could only be good. It's this kind of logic that has turned the game into what it is today.

Care themselves, pls.

For pvp fun at weekends you need farm 100g, also you need farm few golds for raids, flask, pots, etc, so if you have a mage you need minimum 3 hours dm farm for just pvp on weekends(if you don't need flask for raids)

Edited November 9, 2016 by Pottu
Removed double quote

[Pottu 290]

We are not going to adjust respec costs at this time. Likely never.