luxoflux13 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2016 First of all, I'm new to WoW, I'd like to try Elysium/Nost, I'll make warlock on PvP realm, but I'll do PvE first to get decent gear for raid and PvP later, can u guys please tell me the pros & cons of my build ? http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Ii0bZsxhzg0oZxx0tr0z Thx 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uriel Ventris 224 Report post Posted November 20, 2016 That's basically the best PvE build there is. Only real downsides would be the high rate of shard consumption (so go farm at least 40+ before your raid) and lower range for affliction spells compared to 30-0-21 (for example, you can stay out of the range of Geddon's manaburning debuff while still throwing bolts at him but you must move closer to apply a curse/corruption/etc). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destron 2 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 Only real downsides would be the high rate of shard consumption (so go farm at least 40+ before your raid) How big of a pain is this? Is it something that would really turn someone away from enjoying the Lock? Or are there tricks that make it a fast process? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zappa 7 Report post Posted November 22, 2016 How big of a pain is this? Is it something that would really turn someone away from enjoying the Lock? Or are there tricks that make it a fast process? As Alliance you fly to burning steppes and kill 40 ogres. Takes about 15-20 minutes. As Horde you fly to Felwood and kill 40 oozes and everything along the way. Takes about 15-20 minutes. You will get used to farming shards. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elviss 5 Report post Posted November 23, 2016 Besides, you can grind shards when your guild is having day off, and stash them in your bank. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted November 23, 2016 I always encouraged locks to charge people for summons as well. You had to farm the shard and get to raid/buff location. They should have to pay for convenience. Will motivate people to show up on time if the gotta pay 1-3 gold per summon. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sojs 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2016 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#Ix0bZfxhzT0oZvx0tM0z is a better spec farming soul shards isn't a pain like the others are saying the only time you will ever run out is during PvP if you're spamming shadow burns 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luxoflux13 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 thx for the answer guys, oh yeah, one last question, can u guys explain which better spec for newbies like me, SM/Ruin [30/0/21] or DS/Ruin [9/21/21], so DS/Ruin consume tons of shard ? then its not good for newbies ? since newbies got little slot of bag on early game [below lvl 40] ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayeri 6 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Hello, as Sojs said above, the best dps build should be : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IV0bZsxhzg0oZvx0tM0zYou don't need the 2 points in Suppression as your main source of damage is ShadowBolt/Searing Pain (Destruction Spells). Having points in this won't help increasing your dps as the 8/16 debuffs limitation won't really allow every warlock in the raid to have Corruption (Affliction Spell) up.2 points in Intensity is useless. If you get hit in a raid, means you took aggro, you might aswell wanna stop casting hellfire or rain of fire and let the tank take the aggro back This build is for lvl 60 Raid optimisation, not for leveling Cya Edited November 25, 2016 by Ayeri 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luxoflux13 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 That's basically the best PvE build there is. Only real downsides would be the high rate of shard consumption (so go farm at least 40+ before your raid) and lower range for affliction spells compared to 30-0-21 (for example, you can stay out of the range of Geddon's manaburning debuff while still throwing bolts at him but you must move closer to apply a curse/corruption/etc). well im not planning to play curse on bosses, there other warlock will do, as i know warlock cant stack curse's right ? so i was planning to spam shadow bolt / fire spell since DS spec can increase Shadow / Fire Spell 15% 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luxoflux13 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Hello, as Sojs said above, the best dps build should be : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IV0bZsxhzg0oZvx0tM0z You don't need the 2 points in Suppression as your main source of damage is ShadowBolt/Searing Pain (Destruction Spells). Having points in this won't help increasing your dps as the 8/16 debuffs limitation won't really allow every warlock in the raid to have Corruption (Affliction Spell) up. 2 points in Intensity is useless. If you get hit in a raid, means you took aggro, you might aswell wanna stop casting hellfire or rain of fire and let the tank take the aggro back Cya ah ic ic thx! but, do 4% reduce mana consump of destruct spell really that usefull ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sojs 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Hello, as Sojs said above, the best dps build should be : http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IV0bZsxhzg0oZvx0tM0z You don't need the 2 points in Suppression as your main source of damage is ShadowBolt/Searing Pain (Destruction Spells). Having points in this won't help increasing your dps as the 8/16 debuffs limitation won't really allow every warlock in the raid to have Corruption (Affliction Spell) up. 2 points in Intensity is useless. If you get hit in a raid, means you took aggro, you might aswell wanna stop casting hellfire or rain of fire and let the tank take the aggro back This build is for lvl 60 Raid optimisation, not for leveling Cya taking improved corruption is a waste 5/5 suppression is a must especially at low gear levels (you will most likely be assigned a curse and if you're unlucky you can get multiple resists in a row so you take 5/5 suppression to stop the dps loss from having to recast) Edited November 25, 2016 by sojs 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayeri 6 Report post Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) i'd prefer some resists than having a cast time on my corruption, always. edit : well, you are going to be spamming the фекал out of your shadowbolt, so yeah, 4% is good Edited November 29, 2016 by Ayeri 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sojs 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2016 i'd prefer some resists than having a cast time on my corruption, always. edit : well, you are going to be spamming the фекал out of your shadowbolt, so yeah, 4% is good you don't cast corruption in raid unless you are an SM ruin warlock which is a spec that isn't played until patch 1.7 when 16 debuff slots come out, and even then only 2-3 warlocks are allowed to be this spec the others stay ds/ruin 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites