Question about improved Models for 1.12

[Shayss 43]

I have no problem with people wanting newer models (though I personally would prefer the old ones) but the simple reality is that in order to have any effective anti-cheat system, you can't allow editing of the game files.

 

That and the fact that we are playing on a vanilla project, running vanilla servers to relive the vanilla experience.

[Draegon 1]

I have no problem with people wanting newer models (though I personally would prefer the old ones) but the simple reality is that in order to have any effective anti-cheat system, you can't allow editing of the game files.

 

Pretty much what Arbet is saying. 

[maverick 11]

What would anyone else care if someone wants new models for themselves? It in no way affects your own gameplay or experience. As I recall, the problem with modifying your character skins is it's modifying the game client. To anti-cheat warden it see's you've modified MPQ files and that's an insta-ban. Exceptions can't be made, because then we'll get caught up in splitting hairs that will occupy too much time.

why would anyone else care? because people want to relive the vanilla experience, this is the original flavor no mods, no bullshit if you want to support new character models and bark about it here then gtfo go play retail no ones stopping ya. im gona tell you straight up how it is, the new model kids are a minority in this community, your almost invisible, and this topic has nothing to do with vanilla shut it down.

Edited November 22, 2016 by maverick

[Method 0]

why you talk trash? its the same experiencie with better models, i think have better textures dont break the vanilla experience, you are so full of фекал god

[Shayss 43]

why you talk trash? its the same experiencie with better models, i think have better textures dont break the vanilla experience, you are so full of фекал god

 

"better"

[maverick 11]

why you talk trash? its the same experiencie with better models, i think have better textures dont break the vanilla experience, you are so full of фекал god

you're in the minority , keep talking its usually the 10-15 age bracket that supports these kind of ideas anyway im not worried about you.

[Ellipsea 36]

why would anyone else care? because people want to relive the vanilla experience, this is the original flavor no mods, no bullshit if you want to support new character models and bark about it here then gtfo go play retail no ones stopping ya. im gona tell you straight up how it is, the new model kids are a minority in this community, your almost invisible, and this topic has nothing to do with vanilla shut it down.

 

 

The discussion is academic since it's not allowed, however modifying one's client doesn't modify the game client or anyone else's client. Everyone else's DB remains the same and the traditional character will be rendered. I wonder though if it could affect one's hitbox. Dunno.

[maverick 11]

 

 

you're in the minority. its usually the 10-15 age bracket that supports these ideas amiright, take your little legion friends by the hand and move along.

[Ellipsea 36]

Don't know what your problem is bub.

1. The conversation is academic, it's not allowed.

2. Even if it were allowed, it would not affect your gameplay or experience because you would see no changes. Changing one's character model does not change the client side DB. They would look the same to you.

If you'd read what I wrote instead of trying to find something to be upset about, the conversation would be more productive. I first explained why it isn't allowed, and then in my second post said the conversation was academic.

Edited November 22, 2016 by Ellipsea

[maverick 11]

Don't know what your problem is bub.

1. The conversation is academic, it's not allowed.

2. Even if it were it would not affect your gameplay or experience because you would see no changes. Changing one's character model does not change the client side DB. They would look the same to you.

"the conversation is academic" lmao ok nerd, ill tell you again, take your little legion friends by the hand and move along.

[Kazuma 11]

The WotLK generation has invaded us. Banish them to the Fresh server.

[Tholren 7]

The amount of people who give salty replies regarding the updated models is ridiculous. It's a real shame that model editing isn't allowed, as it seriously improves the visual elements of the game, which obviously, improves the enjoyment one can withdraw from it even further. Don't play your "graphics don't matter hurrdurrdurr" card, it's bull and you know it. 

 

Take Witcher 3 as an example, its' fantastic graphical quality and amazing aesthetic made the game much more immersive.

 

EDIT: In fact, if we could have an explanation as to why it isn't allowed, it would be great. I don't necessarily understand the technical reasons behind it, if there are any in the first place.

Edited November 22, 2016 by Tholren

[arbet 9]

That and the fact that we are playing on a vanilla project, running vanilla servers to relive the vanilla experience.

Yes, but it's a personal choice - e.g. there are plenty of interface add-ons that you can get to customise your game, it's your choice whether you use them or whether you want the original vanilla experience. Many people are playing this because they want to relive the game with the vanilla mechanics, which aren't affected by things like textures or UI mods. So if it were allowed, I don't see the problem as it's a personal choice.

 

 

The amount of people who give salty replies regarding the updated models is ridiculous. It's a real shame that model editing isn't allowed, as it seriously improves the visual elements of the game, which obviously, improves the enjoyment one can withdraw from it even further. Don't play your "graphics don't matter hurrdurrdurr" card, it's bull and you know it. 

 

Take Witcher 3 as an example, its' fantastic graphical quality and amazing aesthetic made the game much more immersive.

 

EDIT: In fact, if we could have an explanation as to why it isn't allowed, it would be great. I don't necessarily understand the technical reasons behind it, if there are any in the first place.

I believe Elysium mods have already answered it, not sure if it was on the forums or in the Reddit Q&A.

Basically, the servers have anti-cheat detection software, which checks players' game clients to make sure they haven't edited the game files. Editing the character models would flag your account up with the anti-cheat software. And it's difficult to start making exceptions for certain mods, and it'd be even more difficult for GMs to verify that you're not modding the game inappropriately. The easiest, safest thing to do is just block everyone from modifying the game.

[Docholy 4]

This thread is pointless, the devs said no and their are servers that let this occur. If anyone wants it, they can go their.  

[Tholren 7]

Thanks to the people who explained why model editing isn't allowed, cheers.

[Sirrestrikk 0]

From the maker of the models;

"My patch can be detected and can ban you if the Devs want too. But in our server we dont have such a problem. Now in the case of Nostalrius people going to use it there might face the same problem they had before they closed, means their devs was making a far more stronger detection in the game files not allowing more than the default files to be added. Koward had same issues, he found a temporary solution and then again mods went completely off question by restricting files out of the game default.

Ill see what i can do about the other project teams, since its not only in my hand, i made this mod for me and the vanilla community. Ill be sad from one point if not get whitelisted at least for this. Only time will tell."

[Rugrats 0]

No no no, new models are yucky! The fem gnomes where made to look creepy and crazy.

[Shayss 43]

Some time next year, i guarantee we will see Sirrestrikk on ban appeals "I didn't know! How was I supposed to know you weren't allowed to modify game files, so unfair! please unban" xD

[Docholy 4]

Wasn't this locked at some point?  Who is raising the dead?