mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 How will your stance on free speech be? I have experienced on Kronos wow that the GMs there dont take lightly on insults or wrong (according to them) names/guildnames etc. In other words, they act like established modern day politicians in western europe, crack down on politically incorrect people, Now, i am or will in no way spam hatred everywhere of course, and i fully understand the instabanning of gold sellers and other spammers. But it is by no means right to ban or mute people just for the reason they said something wrong. FULL, Lemme refrase that word, FULL freedom of speech is whats gonna make this server thrive once its released. (ban the hell out of spammers like people who write фекал like this below though) ex text /general gutxyms:"Selling gold, 10$ 200g, If you buy now you get extra %!!!.... etc...." /general gutxyms:"Selling gold, 10$ 200g, If you buy now you get extra %!!!.... etc...." /general gutxyms:"Selling gold, 10$ 200g, If you buy now you get extra %!!!.... etc...." /general Jollyroger:LF healer WC /trade Mythak:Selling Silver ores 5g stack!! /general gutxyms:"Selling gold, 10$ 200g, If you buy now you get extra %!!!.... etc...." /general Dudezon: Any russian guilds around?! /general gutxyms:"Selling gold, 10$ 200g, If you buy now you get extra %!!!.... etc...." But for the love of god/allah/odin ;P Let people say stuff like ex.1вауу the swedes, ex2.вау the arabs ex3.вау your sister ex4.I like icecream Point made is, Totally FREE SPEECH, whats your stance on it, Elysium GMs? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) I see im already too late on this.............................. im already not allowed to write f. uck or s. hit Really? i know profanity filter is a thing you can turn on or off in game sure, but above point still stands. And im not feeling some nice first impression vibes of said statement/question Rly its not hard, its even making it easier for GMs to operate, not having to focus on looking what people write and taking that into consideration on whether to take "legal" action or not. Edited November 25, 2016 by mythak70 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktak 6 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Freedom=Sin 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Censorship is good to prevent Toxic kids and Gold Sellers. /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Please prove my fears wrong GMs. Total free speech please. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Censorship is good to prevent Toxic kids and Gold Sellers. /Kind regards Killerduki Right! Goldselling spam assholes, caus goldsellers spam in 97,99% of cases. But leave the toxic kids alone ;DD unless they´re spamming toxic kids. Hey killerduki btw, kennethenry here from warsong, i recall you´re name from somewhere, u were pala right? YE! u were in my guild at some point even haha Edited November 25, 2016 by mythak70 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Right! Goldselling spam assholes, caus goldsellers spam in 97,99% of cases. But leave the toxic kids alone ;DD unless they´re spamming toxic kids. Hey killerduki btw, kennethenry here from warsong, i recall you´re name from somewhere, u were pala right? The Scottish Resto Druid , never forgotten . Nice to see you dude! "You have a heart of Lion" p.s did so much Bosses in Naxx as Prot Pala there , sadly you vanished for unknown reasons before /Kind regards Killerduki Edited November 25, 2016 by killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) The Scottish Resto Druid , never forgotten . Nice to see you dude! "You have a heart of Lion" /Kind regards Killerduki Grrr SWEDISH! me and tirika were da bezt on ally side but i was in so many guilds so i cant recall which one, ahhh warsong in like 2011,2012,2013 was SO FAR, the best vanilla server ever released, hoping this one tops it. remember our Seel parade through IF? XD i added u on FB btw Duki Edited November 25, 2016 by mythak70 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 perhaps i´ll roll resto drood again, as i was so good at it since they´re always in high demand. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 The Scottish Resto Druid , never forgotten . Nice to see you dude! "You have a heart of Lion" p.s did so much Bosses in Naxx as Prot Pala there , sadly you vanished for unknown reasons before /Kind regards Killerduki ye i stopped playing for a long time, i guess we all get those episodes of not playing once in a while 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aisar87 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 I'm hoping they take a bit more strict stance on crappy behavior and annoying kids and I'm sure I'll be helping them out a bit with reports. Keep in mind this is a private server and they can literally run it in any way they choose to and with any rules they want to enforce. If you don't like it don't play on these servers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 This фекал again? "Freedom of Speech" only means that the government cannot punish you for speaking out against it. It does not mean you can say whatever you want with no consequences. Furthermore, Elysium is a private company, so freedom of speech does not apply. They can legally censor whatever they want. You have no right to free speech here. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shayss 43 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Summation of people who want cencorship. Edit: the fat one is Killerdukki Edited November 25, 2016 by Shayss 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maverick 11 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 another one of these threads.....i hope the gm's step up their game this time and start banning all these toxic kids in chat and actually start reading tickets for once in their life 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 NO, just NO, on the other hand, heres another one of u lot, calling for restrictions. Everywhere in modern day society is this butthurtness, why, if i may ask? Stop being so scared of everything and just roll with it, chillax 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shayss 43 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 another one of these threads.....i hope the gm's step up their game this time and start banning all these toxic kids in chat and actually start reading tickets for once in their life They do. Have you ever reported a safespotter before? I have. Have you ever reported a bot before? I have. They answer asap and they are professional about it. Your tickets about "Oh no, that guy offended me, my feelings are hurt" amount to nothing. Get thicker skin, play the game and report ACTUAL problems when you come across them. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aslan 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Obviously freedom of speech applies to the government smart попа. Its about the principle here, we all know that this is a private platform and that the devs can do whatever they want. Why should it be bannable to be a dick? I cant find any objective reason why a dick should be expelled by anyone else but the community. You might trust yourself with the power to ban anything you deem toxic, but would you trust anyone else with it? If your answer is 'yes', you just fail to misunderstand how slippery that slope is. Yeah, maybe you would get rid of a lot of autism like slipry or that hunter/pally guy but the next day its like on feenix where you get permabanned for typing the word nostalrius in chat or stating that the server is фекал. You dont like someone? Dont invite them, dont buy their things, dont whisper to them, dont join their groups... play the game with people you like. Inb4 someone is toxic for advocating for a different position on something like 'the existence of holy resistance'. Edit: threats of violence/obvious slander usually arent protected by free speech. Edited November 25, 2016 by Aslan 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aslan 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Since I am not allowed to use adult language here even though I am an adult guy... just to clear up these weird russian words in my textwall above: 1st line: smart gluteus maximus End of 1st paragraph: stating in chat that the server is similar to human excrements. Seriously though, get your excrements together and disable that profanity filter (or is that on my side?). I doubt anyone in this world needs protection from a "bad word". If anything people see the censored part and think even harder about the fact that this is the spot where the guy said "excrements". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 Finally, someone born With a brain for a change, cheers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sojs 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 yes i feel you i myself am very worried the spirit of nostalrius will be ruined by these new found russian GM's 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mythak70 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 I have as of now no bias for or against the GMs, i dont know them yet, they´re hopefully great +! <3 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pottu 290 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 We have rules for forums, Discord and in-game chat. Please follow them. We can not, and do not, allow all sorts of speech on Elysium. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) We don't have to worry about the population and the ability to say whatever ya want isn't going to make any difference in that regard. The answer to your query is in the TOS: "When communicating with other users and staff, you may not: Communicate any unlawful, obscene, racist or any such language and/or imagery deemed inappropriate by Elysium staff."The key component of this is, "deemed". So it's open to interpretation, and for a reason. We don't want to just have a list of words you cannot say (except apparently in the forums : P), We want intent to be critical. We had some ability to use some adult language as an adult in the game and to an extent in the forums at Nost, but if one's intent was to just try out some naughty words and spam chat to get attention- expect full well to be censured. Usually that amounted to having your chat privileges revoked for X amount of time or to be banned from the forums...and I really don't recall many people be banned from forums out of the thousands and thousands. Edited November 25, 2016 by Ellipsea 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aisar87 0 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 We don't have to worry about the population and the ability to say whatever ya want isn't going to make any difference in that regard. The answer to your query is in the TOS: "When communicating with other users and staff, you may not: Communicate any unlawful, obscene, racist or any such language and/or imagery deemed inappropriate by Elysium staff."The key component of this is, "deemed". So it's open to interpretation, and for a reason. We don't want to just have a list of words you cannot say (except apparently in the forums : P), We want intent to be critical. We had some ability to use some adult language as an adult in the game and to an extent in the forums at Nost, but if one's intent was to just try out some naughty words and spam chat to get attention- expect full well to be censured. Usually that amounted to having your chat privileges revoked for X amount of time or to be banned from the forums...and I really don't recall many people be banned from forums out of the thousands and thousands. There's a great explanation. Just be reasonable and mature about it and you won't have a problem 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maverick 11 Report post Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) They do. Have you ever reported a safespotter before? I have. Have you ever reported a bot before? I have. They answer asap and they are professional about it. Your tickets about "Oh no, that guy offended me, my feelings are hurt" amount to nothing. Get thicker skin, play the game and report ACTUAL problems when you come across them. you dont even know if i ever reported anyone or not, so dont talk too much plz. cant even say anything on these forums without nerds getting triggered. Edited November 25, 2016 by maverick 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites