Calling it now in 1 month: Nost PvE pop: 2k, Nost PvP: 5k, Elysium: 20k

[Kazuma 11]

Ah the Fresh idiots are here again. In case you missed it they will both cap Nost PvP and the fresh realm.

 

In the end the population will be:

 

Nost PvP: 8k at full capacity.

Nost PvE: 4k at full capacity.

Elys PvP: 8k at full capacity.

 

Stop spreading bullshit.

[baldooni 0]

We are so gonna clog it

Edited December 21, 2016 by baldooni

[Kazuma 11]

So much missinformed people, maybe you should actually play so you know what ur talking about.

[Mealticket 0]

I got a prediction.

Nost 7k < perfect

PvE Nost 6k

Elysium 4k

Crestfall < 8k

Rerollers gonna reroll until they are the first to whatever their goal is to be first on.

[Lavos 0]

What will actually happen is fresh will have 4-7k

 

and the majority of new people will go old nost as the starting zones on fresh will remain permanently ваууed for months.

 

After the hype dies down Old retains it's que and 11k pop, PvE with 5k, and fresh with 4k

 

it comes down to the majority of people who will quit in the next 6 months will be obsessed with rolling fresh. Once the saturation of bad players takes hold in the raid community a large chunk will fall off. Anyone who has played and committed to vanilla will be on old nost where the hardcore are.

 

It's just a fact, and the fresh people will фекал themselves when Rag is dead and they're level 24

 

Kronos 2 had 5k, you're kidding yourself if they all plan to roll fresh as several guilds on k2 were old nost guilds.

 

You guys are just sad. the amount of people who ahve rerolled 5/6/7 times. It will not be an Eigth. Jesus the narcissism is unreal. If this is your first server you are in the minority trust me. Otherwise we would see a 15k que

 

This is the only right answer here. I have many friends from old guilds on retail that are pumped for the fresh start server, but here's the thing. Nearly all of them tried out Nost before it died, and the highest any single one of them got up to was level 31. Many many 1st timers won't even see Redridge. 

[Jackyy 1]

and what's teh deal is the one of the server "just" having 3-4k people? thats more then enough

 

I remember times when 2k on a priavte server was hugde deal

Edited December 22, 2016 by Jackyy

[Elviss 5]

Hmm.

 

I would be more inclined to go with:

PVE - 2k

Nost PvP - 8k

Elysium PvP - 10k

 

These numbers will also increase on all servers but more so on the fresh realm.

 

The PvE realm will actually be the only realm that is gona be perfectly fine. PvE carebears doing PvE carebear things... like hugging, loving and waving at each other.

There's actually few more reasons why people go for PvE realm.

 

Like, not wasting time on sad life kids, who team up and try to gank them while all those "care bears" need, is to farm consumables for their raid.

 

Or not lose world buffs for progression raids while same фекал happen.

 

But hugging and waving is always nice bonus.

[Scambug 9]

I doubt many ppl will move from nost pvp to elysium pvp. This isn't a sandbox, there's nothing to gain from starting over.

My guess is Elysium will be full of new players like myself and a minority of pvp nosters who are sick of their server crashing every hour.

I really don't see any pve nosters moving to elysium.

[Tempest 0]

I like your avatar, OP, very Murican, but no bald eagle, so 0/10 HUEHUEHUE

[Redshadowz 0]

In one month, and in two months, and in six months, Fresh will have the most players.

 

Most of the people on right now, aren't even leveling, they're just talking, caught up in the hype, waiting for the new server.

 

 

Half of the old Nost players aren't coming back(they've simply moved on to other games, or other servers). Almost all the new players, will go to the fresh server, and with them will go a large portion of the old players(who will either want to start fresh, or play with friends who want to start fresh).

 

 

Look at other server "projects"(such as the current second-largest vanilla server). It will be the same.

 

PvE server will largely be fine. But the old Nost will be nothing but 60's in a month.

[Nostalrius News 0]

Over 2K on a Vanilla server is MORE than enough for a very healthy economy and population. I do however suspect that ALL servers will surpass that. PvE are not going to die in any way, shape or form.

[Mealticket 0]

In one month, and in two months, and in six months, Fresh will have the most players.

Most of the people on right now, aren't even leveling, they're just talking, caught up in the hype, waiting for the new server.

Half of the old Nost players aren't coming back(they've simply moved on to other games, or other servers). Almost all the new players, will go to the fresh server, and with them will go a large portion of the old players(who will either want to start fresh, or play with friends who want to start fresh).

Look at other server "projects"(such as the current second-largest vanilla server). It will be the same.

PvE server will largely be fine. But the old Nost will be nothing but 60's in a month.

Then fresh won't be fresh anymore and it will have a queue. When new players at that point look at queue minus content or content minus queue, they'll have to decide.

[Onlyferal 1]

I remember when Nostalrius got a "fresh start server" (a.k.a. the PvE server). It was so hyped before it was released and got a pretty good showing the first week. Then it dropped significantly and a good majority of the people went back to PvP servers. I think it was mostly because of the amount of content and timelines. Wondering if fresh start being overhyped again.

[Redshadowz 0]

I remember when Nostalrius got a "fresh start server" (a.k.a. the PvE server). It was so hyped before it was released and got a pretty good showing the first week. Then it dropped significantly and a good majority of the people went back to PvP servers. I think it was mostly because of the amount of content and timelines. Wondering if fresh start being overhyped again.

 

PvP servers are always going to be more populated than PvE servers. Which is why all private server projects start with a PvP server.

 

Then fresh won't be fresh anymore and it will have a queue. When new players at that point look at queue minus content or content minus queue, they'll have to decide.

 

Look, you've got two classes of players. You've got the people who played on Nost before and are level 60, and then you have new/newer players.

 

From what I can tell, about 2/3rds of all the players currently on Nost, are new players(and about half of them aren't actively trying to level).

 

If the Fresh server had been released at launch, who honestly believes that the Fresh Nost wouldn't have significantly more players on it than the old Nost? Which is precisely why they want to leave a month window between them. So that people would begin playing on the old Nost, in the hopes that they'll stay once the Fresh Nost comes out.

 

 

At this point, the only way the Fresh Nost doesn't steal 2/3rds of the current players from the Old Nost, is if the Fresh server is heavily limited by queues.

 

If there are 10k people who want to play on Nost servers, they will need to put a cap of 5k on each server.

 

 

There is another server project, and I remember they had like five servers, each of them with a server cap of 4,000. And when you looked at the servers at the time, each of them had a population near the cap, especially during peak hours.

 

But they then tripled the server cap, and now most of the other servers are empty.

[gotmilk0112 10]

I hope the fresh server has 25 000 population

yeah, gonna be great having a 20 second delay on everything and every single zone having 500+ people in it

 

 

Most of the people on right now, aren't even leveling, they're just talking

 

Half of the old Nost players aren't coming back

 

Almost all the new players, will go to the fresh server, and with them will go a large portion of the old players

I'd love to see some sources for these massive claims you're making.

Edited December 22, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[Jimmy 2]

My prediction for fresh server pop in one month: 0 because it won't be released yet.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Falorthan

[gotmilk0112 10]

Peeps have no idea what they are getting into on fresh. Enjoy 10k ques, mass lags, lack of content, retrdedly ваууed starting zones and awful initial economy.

please freshies if I see even one of you ваууers complaining about any of these I'm going to laugh and say I told you so.

yep, fresh server is going to be a nightmare for 2-3 weeks, if not longer

 

Even on the PvE server, when it re-opened here, every single starting zone was absolutely flooded with players. At least 500 people in each 1-10 zone. Questing was nigh impossible because every single mob spawn was being camped. Just finding ANYTHING to kill was difficult.

 

Having everyone on the entire server starting fresh...yeah, leveling via exploration is going to be the way to go because every single mob is going to get nuked by 10-15 people as soon as it spawns.

Edited December 22, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[Tedstery 0]

Peeps have no idea what they are getting into on fresh. Enjoy 10k ques, mass lags, lack of content, retrdedly ваууed starting zones and awful initial economy.

please freshies if I see even one of you ваууers complaining about any of these I'm going to laugh and say I told you so.

I constantly see you on thread like these you seem to just have it out against this fresh server.

[Robroy 2]

You can sense the desperation in the fresh server advocates. They are paniking because deep down they're worried that the fresh server will be a damp squib.

 

Nost has two enormous advantages over the fresh server.

 

They opened first and when you have two simlar but competing entities, opening first is usually game set and match. Nost will hoover up most of the undecideds.

 

The name, few people will have heard of Elysium, but even people who have no interest in legacy resalms have heard of Nost. If you want to be part of Vanilla scene you surely want to be on Nost. People like to be assosciated with popular/famous things.

[Hunter4life 0]

OT:

Can any one explain why pve is "carebear"?

Does pvp host the small-dick-syndrom, low selfasteem, 14-15 year old wankers? If one was to generalize, I mean?

I play pve because I have a life, Job and children. As in, I dont want to spend the few hours I can play, being ganked by the person I described above.

At the same time, I played retail on pvp server from vanilla to MOP. Yet, I dont gank lowbies. Only same lvl or above..

[gotmilk0112 10]

Can any one explain why pve is "carebear"?

Because PvP realm players seem to think that it's cool and hardcore to get ganked all the time, and that if you don't want to subject yourself to frustrating corpse runs every 10 minutes, you're a "carebear".

 

Basically elitist children.

[Mealticket 0]

Because PvP realm players seem to think that it's cool and hardcore to get ganked all the time, and that if you don't want to subject yourself to frustrating corpse runs every 10 minutes, you're a "carebear".

Basically elitist children.

Not entirely true, though there are factions of what you describe.

The faction war is a huge part of the lore and of the game in general. By going on a "normal" server, you are electing to not take place in what is a storied rivalry. You'd rather take turns on shared quest lines and shrug when someone of another faction takes the lotus. Thus, care bear. For me, at least, it isn't derogatory though you are welcome to be offended. Far be it for me to tell anyone how to feel.

PvE players are inherently playing nice in a world where a heated rivalry exists.

[Pottu 290]

Since this thread has devolved into mud slinging and insults, I'm locking it.