DM east/DM north/ZG croc farming?

[larivandore 0]

This is the first actual valid response so far in this thread.

 

It still doesn't make custom changes alright, but I can see the point you are making.

 

This does mean that Gold farmers will make more $$$ from thier gold though. As I already stated in  post #13, they don't farm gold. They farm accounts.

 

The reason for the custom changes is to limit gold. Nothing changes for the average player, only gold farmers benefit.

Have you seen the amount of chinese outside of DM? The gold sellers are farming their gold, that's their main source of gold.

[larivandore 0]

Ye i gotta agree. Making gold impossible to farm via soloing instances sure makes prices drop but at the same time make gold value increase. So gold farmers dont care... they just go and farm subpar lower level instanes and sell all greens/blues that they get in higher quantities and/or sell gold for more $. So in that light I dont really see how making them impossible to solo is doing anything in that matter (but at the same time its quite a pr hit when you consider some people will just not play here saying "lol custom server" and they'd be right).

 

In my book things should be as hard as vanilla but soloable for geared/talented players. Obviously bugged mechanics that makes even green fresh 60s able to farm tribute is a no go but the "fix" they offered is equally bad depending on how you look at it. 

Except that the biggest reason people buy gold is most likely to get their epic mount, people are willing to spend a decent amount on that, but if the cost for gold becomes much higher, then less people will buy gold.

[gambinho 11]

Nostalrius confirmed Funserver?

[duds 0]

next up - devilsaurs now have a 40% chance to skin for a devilsaur leather due to people farming them too much and making way too much gold!!

Edited December 24, 2016 by duds

[Crossbreed 3]

I can't find any infos about this nerf, where did you read this?

 

If true - it sucks. Gold farmers have always been in WoW and they always will be.

Don't nerf or alter gameplay because of them, that's like treating cancer by killing the patient. If you want to get rid of goldfarmers, improve your mechanisms to identify them, then ban them and revert any transactions they have made. Don't alter gameplay though.

 

In terms of DM; I really, really enjoyed grinding up there with my mage from lvl 54 - 60, and the end of which I just had enough gold to buy my epic right at lvl 60. And even afterwards, DM:E and DM:N were my most visited farming spots by far. So yes nerfs would very, very clearly affect non-gold farmers as well.

 

One of the major reasons for why I loved Nost was they stuck to vanilla gameplay as close as possible. Don't change paths now, please..

[szuszak 2]

i mean if we are going that route

than instead of removing farming spots

lets allow summoning stone be in game instead of metingstones

lets add lfr and arenas

maybe dual specs

we can actually see what were blizzard ideas for the future of wow

and it doesn't end well(unless you like your legion with meaningless ap farm ,demon hunters , oversimplified classes where only rotation matters and the skills that define the class no longer exist , where you can lfr all the content and never put any effort into your character because the rngesus will eventually grant you those LEGENDARY items that everyone else has)

 

do not change blizzlike into custom mode server

gold sellers were and are a problem on blizzard servers

just accept it as a part of the experience

i am not judging ppl who sell or buy gold

this is all blizzlike

leave it as it is 

Edited December 24, 2016 by szuszak

[Guryev 1]

you cant deincentivize gold farming. with how easily gold spam gets through chat you'd have to wonder whether the admins are even concerned about it. track the gold sellers, track their network of connections, ban them all, and leave the game as is. this is ridiculous

 

some people itt are also mad that only some classes can farm some things but your own classes get their own particular advantages and if you reduce all of these you get wod/legion

 

every class has a method of farming gold, some are better than others. if you have the time roll a gold farming alt. just get to to lvl 40 and run around harvesting mining/herb nodes and looting alch/ench mob drops for ваууs sake

 

I also think the extra patrols in dm east hurts idiot farmers enough as is while we're at it. leave em in

 

the next person itt who defends changes from blizzlike like can get ваууed

Edited December 24, 2016 by ceoddyn

[femdead 0]

"Open world" gold farming on a 12K population server.... yeah, pull the other one. 

 

You people claiming it's to put a chokehold on gold selling, don't you realise this just artificially creates a larger market for people to buy gold?

 

This means MORE xiao armies turtling AV for herb spawns, it means MORE gold whispers as soon as you log in, it means MORE depletion of open-world herb/ore nodes and mobs, and it means an even GREATER disparity between the "new" players and the "old" players already possessing their epic mounts and their bank alts full of elemental earth.

 

It's non-blizzlike fanfic server content, it's a complete mistake, it actively hurts all players. 

[Rayaleith 2]

And since gold farmers is the issue, why do you even buy gold from them? Stop it and they will stop it.

[duds 0]

in regards to hunter beings able to solo tribute runs, what was the situation with that on retail vanilla? was it possible? if so then what are the chances of getting that changed so its properly blizzlike?

Edited December 24, 2016 by duds

[Worldstar 36]

in regards to hunter beings able to solo tribute runs, what was the situation with that on retail vanilla? was it possible? if so then what are the chances of getting that changed so its properly blizzlike?

Yes everything that they are mentioning that was nerfed was possible on retail. Most people just didn't know how or weren't good enough to actually perform them however.

Edited December 24, 2016 by Worldstar

[cybaster 31]

His point was that gold sellers don't JUST farm gold, they just break into peoples' accounts and steal their gold.

 

Why farm 10 hours to get 300 gold when you can just phish for account information and steal 2000 gold in 1 minute?

I'm glad you asked, angry frog man.

 

The truth is that, unlike the flaming hyperboles we tend to resort to in these threads, gold sellers - and hold on to your skullcaps for a moment, as this might blow one or two people's minds - is that gold farmers do all of the above.

 

I don't actually believe the knuckleheads who press the "ACCOUNTS CAN BE STOLEN THEREFORE UR IDEA IS INVALID" button in these convos actually believe that this is the only way - or even the primary way - gold farmers get their gold.

 

An account can only be stolen once.  Dire Maul was being hosed 24/7 by armies.  Anyone who can deny that is either completely broken, mentally, or is simply bullshitting due to ulterior motives.

[duds 0]

I'm glad you asked, angry frog man.

 

The truth is that, unlike the flaming hyperboles we tend to resort to in these threads, gold sellers - and hold on to your skullcaps for a moment, as this might blow one or two people's minds - is that gold farmers do all of the above.

 

I don't actually believe the knuckleheads who press the "ACCOUNTS CAN BE STOLEN THEREFORE UR IDEA IS INVALID" button in these convos actually believe that this is the only way - or even the primary way - gold farmers get their gold.

 

An account can only be stolen once.  Dire Maul was being hosed 24/7 by armies.  Anyone who can deny that is either completely broken, mentally, or is simply bullshitting due to ulterior motives.

cuck

[gotmilk0112 10]

I'm not saying gold farmers don't farm, I'm saying they farm AND hack accounts.

 

Breaking DM isn't going to stop gold farmers, they'll just flock to the next best gold farming spot and we're back to square one, with nothing changed except lots of legitimate players having one less spot to farm gold.

 

There is no 100% effective way to completely stop gold sellers/farmers. The best we can do is ban them and their networks.

Edited December 24, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[ZaWarudo 0]

If they want to balance the game why doing a half a.ss job ? let's backport some abilities from TBC and redesign the talents trees too.

 

For me the admins have to choose between Total Blizzlike or Total enhancement with balances and changes.

Edited December 24, 2016 by ZaWarudo

[Rayaleith 2]

WTB dots tagging. Blizzard implemented it later after all. Why not now?

[stushx 0]

tribute farming wasnt removed because of gold sellers, it was removed purely to put a stop to hunters gold advantage, it was an attempt to balance the game differently to vanilla, simply because of the increasing popularity for the method.

 

Also no one makes a sustainable gold selling service from stealing accounts as much as they dont from dire maul, nor would they use methods requiring "investing" by leveling a character to 60 before using a "super sick nost-proof bot". You can rest assured a lot fewer people than you think are capable of doing such things, and for those few people it would be a lot easier than you are imagining (either someone can beat the anti-cheat or they cant its that "simple")

Edited December 24, 2016 by stushx

[Pottu 290]

We have to take certain actions due to the high population levels.