group with Ratstick at your own risk [horde]

[nerdz 1]

rolled need on a blue boe agi ring to sell it, states he will do it with any boe including epics, and acts like a huge gronk in general

http://imgur.com/a/hnxQJ

[Shayss 43]

He isn't a ninja. You should always need on BoE blues.

[Limitless 6]

1 hour ago, Shayss said:

He isn't a ninja. You should always need on BoE blues.

This. QFT.

 

Always need on BoE blues.

[Janxx 0]

I also notice that everyone is rolling need on everything.. Wasnt like that back in 2005, not on my server at least. Times change I guess. 

[flowqz 34]

On 14.1.2017 at 5:00 PM, Janxx said:

I also notice that everyone is rolling need on everything.. Wasnt like that back in 2005, not on my server at least. Times change I guess. 

use it as a filter for scumbags. its worth the gold u need to spend.

[Fyzitian 2]

On 1/14/2017 at 7:50 AM, Shayss said:

He isn't a ninja. You should always need on BoE blues.

 

On 1/14/2017 at 8:59 AM, Limitless said:

This. QFT.

 

Always need on BoE blues.

You still are not supposed to roll need on something unless you need it. Anyone that is doing this is just a douche. 

[Btfl 0]

LMAO all role need and you miss it, then calling the winner a ninja LMAO

[Limitless 6]

On 16/01/2017 at 2:24 PM, Fyzitian said:

 

You still are not supposed to roll need on something unless you need it. Anyone that is doing this is just a douche. 

Obviously you're new.

[Oakenlix 79]

On 16.01.2017 at 10:24 PM, Fyzitian said:

 

You still are not supposed to roll need on something unless you need it. Anyone that is doing this is just a douche. 

But everyone needs any BoE item. 

Assuming your need for an item to use it is more important than other person's need to sell it on AH - now thats a little douchy.

[Ariconius 3]

I have seen a half-dozen blue BoEs drop in my groups. Every single person has rolled greed on the items dropped. And it has been understood that if someone rolls need they equip the item.

[flowqz 34]

4 hours ago, Oakenlix said:

But everyone needs any BoE item. 

Assuming your need for an item to use it is more important than other person's need to sell it on AH - now thats a little douchy.

let me explain the roll system for you:

 

if you need the item you roll "need"

if you wanna sell the item you roll "greed"

 

i know its hard to unterstand the system but pls focus next time a roll pops up and try to press the correct icon.

 

edit: i might understand your struggle with the roll system if it was the classic classic roll system, were you could just roll or pass, but this isnt the case in this server :(

Edited January 18, 2017 by flowqz

[flowqz 34]

4 hours ago, Oakenlix said:

 

Edited January 18, 2017 by flowqz

[Oakenlix 79]

24 minutes ago, flowqz said:

if you need the item you roll "need"

if you wanna sell the item you roll "greed"

Wow, too complicated...

So what if you need an item to sell it?

[flowqz 34]

37 minutes ago, Oakenlix said:

Wow, too complicated...

So what if you need an item to sell it?

mb we can make it easier. if you want to sell the item u click on the shiny golden coin.

[Oakenlix 79]

11 hours ago, flowqz said:

mb we can make it easier. if you want to sell the item u click on the shiny golden coin.

Are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them?
If so, let me explain.

A value of BoE item is the same for everyone no matter if you're gonna use it or sell it. To use this item, you can buy it for the same amount another player can sell it. Therefore everyone needs it equally. 

Hope now it's clear. 

[flowqz 34]

9 hours ago, Oakenlix said:

Are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them?
If so, let me explain.

A value of BoE item is the same for everyone no matter if you're gonna use it or sell it. To use this item, you can buy it for the same amount another player can sell it. Therefore everyone needs it equally. 

Hope now it's clear. 

nope, thats not how the roll system was designed. 

 

i already told u there was a roll system of passing or rolling in classic vanilla. but that isnt the case here, so use the stuff accordingly. shiny goldcoin if you wanna sell the item. thats how its intended to be and everyone thinks ppl accordingly.

 

if you dont like it post your lootrules before the run, if anyone is fine with it, go ahead, if they kick you cause they dont like it, deal with it.

 

on a sidenote: this is vanilla, you need the community to get shit done. i highly recommend not beeing a selfish prick in case you want to get shit done on this server. you arent a nameless pleb noone will remember here.

Edited January 19, 2017 by flowqz

[Rouce 3]

I thought it was crystal clear that if you want to sell an item instead if equipping it, you choose the golden coin symbol? I mean it's pretty obvious that everyone "needs" money. Doesn't change the fact that you're just doing it for the "greed". Guess some people will always stretch values & norms to their own advantage.

[flowqz 34]

1 hour ago, Rouce said:

I thought it was crystal clear that if you want to sell an item instead if equipping it, you choose the golden coin symbol? I mean it's pretty obvious that everyone "needs" money. Doesn't change the fact that you're just doing it for the "greed". Guess some people will always stretch values & norms to their own advantage.

think these ppl. usually played the lfg raidfinder retail stuff. they got no clue about how communitys work.

cant blame them, they dont know better.

[Oakenlix 79]

7 hours ago, flowqz said:

nope, thats not how the roll system was designed. 
i already told u there was a roll system of passing or rolling in classic vanilla. but that isnt the case here, so use the stuff accordingly. shiny goldcoin if you wanna sell the item. thats how its intended to be and everyone thinks ppl accordingly.

if you dont like it post your lootrules before the run, if anyone is fine with it, go ahead, if they kick you cause they dont like it, deal with it.

on a sidenote: this is vanilla, you need the community to get shit done. i highly recommend not beeing a selfish prick in case you want to get shit done on this server. you arent a nameless pleb noone will remember here.

You managed to completely ignore my arguments and respond with some "This is how it's supposed to be so use it this way!" bullshit. Please try to re-read my post and give it some thought.

My point has nothing to do with being a "selfish prick", how about this actually: you try and provide any argument that whoever intends to use a BoE item need it more than anyone else. Could you? I don't think so, nothing you came up with so far makes for a good argument.

A person calling someone who rolls need for a BoE item a ninja - that's what a selfish prick is.

2 hours ago, Rouce said:

I thought it was crystal clear that if you want to sell an item instead if equipping it, you choose the golden coin symbol? I mean it's pretty obvious that everyone "needs" money. Doesn't change the fact that you're just doing it for the "greed". Guess some people will always stretch values & norms to their own advantage.

Once again, are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them?

If so, please re-read my post and think about it for a minute.

If that doesn't help either, my apologies and condolenses.

Speculating with what "need" and "greed" means doesn't help you build up an argument for why someone would need a BoE item more than another person. My point is that value of a BoE item is equal for everyone. If you really want to argue, try to disprove my point first, hopefully you'll understand its legitimacy in the process.

[Bluntski 13]

Oaken is just a greedy ass trying to justify rolling need on an item when you don't need it.

NEED is for if you will EQUIP the item

GREED is for any form of selling the item or disenchanting

This is not hard. It's also caleld common courtesy.

Edited January 19, 2017 by Bluntski

[Oakenlix 79]

1 hour ago, Bluntski said:

Oaken is just a greedy ass trying to justify rolling need on an item when you don't need it.

NEED is for if you will EQUIP the item

GREED is for any form of selling the item or disenchanting

This is not hard. It's also caleld common courtesy.

Yeah, yet you still fail to provide any argument, good luck with your trolling career elsewhere mate.

And no, Im not greedy, Im actually one of the kindest motherfuckers you're gonna meet. I just don't like it when people speculate with terms while completely missing the logical meaning of roll system (or more like general sense of value), and also blame people that use it properly as ninjas.

 

Edited January 19, 2017 by Oakenlix

[Bluntski 13]

The argument is pretty simple.

 

Need = equip

Greed = sell, vendor, disenchant etc

[flowqz 34]

16 hours ago, Oakenlix said:

You managed to completely ignore my arguments and respond with some "This is how it's supposed to be so use it this way!" bullshit. Please try to re-read my post and give it some thought.

My point has nothing to do with being a "selfish prick", how about this actually: you try and provide any argument that whoever intends to use a BoE item need it more than anyone else. Could you? I don't think so, nothing you came up with so far makes for a good argument.

A person calling someone who rolls need for a BoE item a ninja - that's what a selfish prick is.

Once again, are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them?

If so, please re-read my post and think about it for a minute.

If that doesn't help either, my apologies and condolenses.

Speculating with what "need" and "greed" means doesn't help you build up an argument for why someone would need a BoE item more than another person. My point is that value of a BoE item is equal for everyone. If you really want to argue, try to disprove my point first, hopefully you'll understand its legitimacy in the process.

the argument is "its written on the god damn buttons", and its how most players behave.

nothing else needed.

 

as i said, if u got a different opinion please post your boe lootrules before your grp starts to kill mobs, else there might be some drama.

[smokeit 26]

On 19-1-2017 at 0:33 AM, Oakenlix said:

Are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them?
If so, let me explain.

A value of BoE item is the same for everyone no matter if you're gonna use it or sell it. To use this item, you can buy it for the same amount another player can sell it. Therefore everyone needs it equally. 

Hope now it's clear. 

Rofl I hope I never group with you. Go play retail.

[Elvensept 12]

11 час назад, Bluntski сказал:

The argument is pretty simple.

 

Need = equip

Greed = sell, vendor, disenchant etc

 

This is the only right option, all those who needed every BoE item are selfish, and Ninja. 

"A value of BoE item is the same for everyone no matter if you're gonna use it or sell it." - this phrase from Oakenlix is one of the most ridiculous thoughts that I heard after returning to Vanilla. I also hope that as little as possible met people with similar beliefs.