Best shaman lvling spec?

[Dakianasha 0]

I am currently lvling as 2h enh. lvl 34 with corpsemaker. is this going to continue being best lvling spec, or is it better/faster going ele?

[gotmilk0112 10]

Ele is not faster overall. It kills things a lot faster, but you have to drink every 3-4 mobs. Tons of downtime. That and, it sucks until level 40.

 

Enh is the fastest overall. Once you get 31 points into it, you can start putting points into either Resto or Ele trees, either one is fine. Resto will give you mana reduction on heals/totems, 3% hit and 30 yard totem radius, while Ele will give you mana reduction on shocks/lightning, increased damage to them (and fire totems), as well as Clearcasting and elemental devastation.

 

Both are fine choices, but I'd go with Resto, seeing as it's easier to get into groups as a healer, and the 30 yard totem radius is amazing for groups. Not to mention the 3% hit is really nice, seeing as hit% gear below level 50 is practically nonexistent.

Edited January 28, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Egregious 1]

Definitely Enhance. No question.

[gotmilk0112 10]

To add, Ele only gets good at level 40 because of having the talents for:

 

+6% crit chance

-1 sec on Lightning Bolt cast

+100% crit damage

 

Ele is shit without those talents, that's why everyone recommends leveling Enhancement. Elemental doesn't start getting good until level 39. Even then, it's still kinda meh because you have no pushback protection (outside of sit-critting) and you have to drink every 3-4 mobs.

 

I personally went Ele at 51 just to try it out, and ended up going 51-59 as Ele (healed dungeons to 60 as resto) just as a change of pace from enhancement. Killing things reliably in 15-18 seconds feels great, but having to sit and drink every 3-4 mobs was pretty annoying.

 

some pros/cons of Ele:

 

Pros:
-Much faster kill speed
-Big crits, can burst things down really fast if you get good RNG
-Don't have to worry about upgrading weapons, just train new spell ranks
-No having to carry around two sets of gear (agi for questing, int for healing), you can just wear your int set all the time

Cons:
-Way more downtime, have to sit and drink every 3 or 4 mobs
-If you run out of mana, you have to run away unless the mob is low on health
-Spell damage is hard to come by, outside of crafted stuff like Dreamweave
-Very hard to kill mobs with high nature resist

Edited January 28, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Krigareen 1]

The best leveling spec is usualy limited to what you are looking for while leveling.

But the fastest spec is this one:

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hvbu00hZVVc0A0ux

Start in enhance and then go to elemental. It can be done very easily with green gear, a shield and somewhat decent and sub 1.8 speed weapon with flamtounge, the faster speed the better. 

If you gear for: Int until you can spam totem/shock/lightningshield without going oom and then go for str>agi>stam>spir, you will never have to rest, aslong as you heal with bandage and no spells. If you are an expert at abusing the 5sr, go for str>int>agi>stam>spir.

[gotmilk0112 10]

^No amount of int will let you "spam" all of your damage spells and not have to stop and drink. Especially considering that if you're constantly casting, you never regen mana in combat. The only time that would work is if you're finding yourself having 30+ seconds of downtime in between mobs. Which doesn't happen outside of insanely crowded areas.

 

While leveling, I found it best to just use Searing Totem and a single Flame Shock on the mob and then melee it to death, only using two Flame Shocks if you get really bad crit / windfury RNG.

Edited January 29, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Krigareen 1]

I don't want to be rude, but you are basicly saying that I can't do what I'm currently doing on my shaman, while leveling. And yes, I can use up to 2 flame shocks and 2 lightning shields per mob, while using a searing totem that hits up to 3 mobs before it dies. I did this exact rotation for an hour while doing reserch of the spec and rotation, I also pulled 35k xp/h while grinding without rested at 34. Just to see how fast it goes, I also did the same test with a 2h agi/stam stacked shaman, no matter which rotation I tried I didn't break 26k xp/h.

But it all comes down to playstyle and how well you can plan your moves depending on your mana.

[Bobtri 2]

You run out of mana quick as elemental but then you run out of mana quick as enhancement too since you still have to use spells to do half decent DPS and you have a smaller mana pool and spells that do less damage. I also found enhancement really boring but elemental is fun and if you're on a PVP server you'd be stronger in PVP encounters.

Honestly if I was to level my shaman again I would go mostly elemental, using a shield and flametongue.

[gotmilk0112 10]

6 hours ago, Krigareen said:

I don't want to be rude, but you are basicly saying that I can't do what I'm currently doing on my shaman, while leveling. And yes, I can use up to 2 flame shocks and 2 lightning shields per mob, while using a searing totem that hits up to 3 mobs before it dies. I did this exact rotation for an hour while doing reserch of the spec and rotation, I also pulled 35k xp/h while grinding without rested at 34. Just to see how fast it goes, I also did the same test with a 2h agi/stam stacked shaman, no matter which rotation I tried I didn't break 26k xp/h.

But it all comes down to playstyle and how well you can plan your moves depending on your mana.

I'd like to see a video then, of you spamming so many abilities and never having to drink.

[The Fapmonsoon 14]

I can agree, as a 1h + shield shaman (using the stam/spr 1.5 speed dagger from RFK and the quest reward blue shield from RFK) I am able to easily take out 35-36 mobs while spamming shocks. I typically skip out on LS to avoid having to drink. I can go easily 5-6 mobs without even feeling a strain on my mana pool (unless i pull more then one at a time then it can get a little mana intense) Its insane but i get better dps this way then i ever did with a 3.2 speed 2h and wf. 

 

Also Id like to add that i think WF is on more of a 1/8-1/10 roll instead of 1/5 roll like the tooltip says. I know RNGesus hates me but i have seen many fights where WF never proc'd and it was 12-15 swings. Yes i take into consideration that missed swings can be the proc swings but i was missing 6% on swings in these fights. 

[Seiki 4]

im lvling as resto with a friend

pull 7 mobs

press wf totem

all mobs dead

))

[Egregious 1]

Would they have been dead faster if you were another spec? I hear they all have access to WF totem.

[gotmilk0112 10]

Yeah, leveling full resto is not a good idea unless you're going to be running a lot of dungeons, or playing with a Warrior who can Whirlwind/Sweeping Strikes against 4+ mob pulls.

[Harkonen 0]

Enhancement is the best spec for solo leveling. If you are playing in a group/with friends elemental becomes just as viable, plus you can heal dungeons to 60 in your elemental gear+spec. Elemental is also way better in PvP after 39 and gearing up is way easier since you only have to compete with other resto/ele shamans. (When you are a mail-puritan like myself ofc).

[Rakthall 1]

It's all depends on how you want to play it, and if you want to leveling faster go for ench, elemental is a caster specc which can use shield. Perosnally, I like elemental more. But ench is weapon depend, so if you want to deal lot of dmg you need to have good 2H.

[Rakthall 1]

It's all depends on how you want to play it, and if you want to leveling faster go for ench, elemental is a caster specc which can use shield. Perosnally, I like elemental more. But ench is weapon depend, so if you want to deal lot of dmg you need to have good 2H.

[Rakthall 1]

It's all depends on how you want to play it, and if you want to leveling faster go for ench, elemental is a caster specc which can use shield. Perosnally, I like elemental more. But ench is weapon depend, so if you want to deal lot of dmg you need to have good 2H.

[Nacted 0]

Smple.

1-41 go enha after 41lvl go elem, after 57 go 5/31/X and use alot of agi+spell damage gear and 2 handed weapon...

 

Almost optimal, but needs alot of gear grind pm certain levels.

 

[OhpElysium 3]

Not to hijack but more to keep the discussion going. Would elemental be a good levelling spec so you could solo level or fill as a healer in dungeons? 

Or do you find you can heal with a gear swap as enhancement? 

[gotmilk0112 10]

You don't need to be Resto to heal dungeons until 60. Just a separate set of int gear.

 

Ele is shit until level 40.

Edited February 25, 2017 by gotmilk0112

[Moonsong 0]

В 29.01.2017 в 16:24, Krigareen сказал:

... I also did the same test with a 2h agi/stam stacked shaman...

 

 

В 09.02.2017 в 18:13, Nacted сказал:

Smple.

1-41 go enha after 41lvl go elem, after 57 go 5/31/X and use alot of agi+spell damage gear and 2 handed weapon...

 

Almost optimal, but needs alot of gear grind pm certain levels.

 

What are you guys are talking about? Agi? It doesn't do shit for us in 1.12 right? 

[gotmilk0112 10]

Agi gives crit, which is important for Flurry procs.

 

It also gives dodge chance.

 

At level 40, I was rocking 15.5% crit and 13.2% dodge.

[Moonsong 0]

3 часа назад, gotmilk0112 сказал:

Agi gives crit, which is important for Flurry procs.

 

It also gives dodge chance.

Are you going to gear for it over int and strength?

[gotmilk0112 10]

Well, yeah, seeing as agi/int/str gear is nonexistent at lower levels.

[csant 3]

I'm lv33 and have gone with 10 points into Ele and the rest into Enh for 1hd/sheild. I will probably switch to a better Ele spec at 39/40. I've never really played Enh before only Resto/Ele. So, I was planning on messing around with it this time around.