flowqz 34 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, Oakenlix said: Yes, I'm everywhere, you can't hide your stupidity from me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garun 9 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 For the twelfth time, people that roll need on BoEs aren't ninjas, just assholes since not having to buy that will effectively give you the same gold as selling it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, flowqz said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect It's a shame that you know so much but still are retarded. Just now, zmandude24 said: For the twelfth time, people that roll need on BoEs aren't ninjas, just assholes since not having to buy that will effectively give you the same gold as selling it. So why are they even assholes? It's the same thing for everyone. It's not quite right to call comeone an asshole just because he doesn't give up his chance for a drop to a stranger. Edited February 16, 2017 by Oakenlix 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flowqz 34 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, Oakenlix said: It's a shame that you know so much but still are retarded. question: would u describe yourself as depressed? are you often frustrated? im just interessted. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, flowqz said: question: would u describe yourself as depressed? are you often frustrated? im just interessted. Please don't quote me so often, you're distracting me from cutting my veins open. Anyway, do you want to keep the discussion at least a little bit relevant to the topic? If not, you may just as well PM me from now on, instead of polluting the thread. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybaster 31 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 I like how Stance first tries to cover his tracks by saying to the group that he's gonna' give it to his bro, and then maybe he's going to keep it, goes on to say that he hates the OP's guild, as if that's decent justification, and then privately admits he'd take a Shadowfang from a rogue. Pretty sleazy guy. Added to the list as a need abuser. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flowqz 34 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 33 minutes ago, Oakenlix said: Please don't quote me so often, you're distracting me from cutting my veins open. Anyway, do you want to keep the discussion at least a little bit relevant to the topic? If not, you may just as well PM me from now on, instead of polluting the thread. why dont u just copy paste your posts from the other thread into this thread? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, flowqz said: why dont u just copy paste your posts from the other thread into this thread? I was considering it, but there's not much here to explain really. I have already posted here everything I wanted to explain my point. If that's not enough, more text won't really help. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lambert 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Oakenlix said: Yes, I'm everywhere, you can't hide from my stupidity. Fixed it for you 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reltih 6 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Wow look it's this thread again, and people STILL don't get that BoE = Gold = same value for everyone. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lambert said: Fixed it for you Nice one, now, if only you could prove me to be wrong with any sensible arguments on your side... but I'm asking for too much, aint I? 4 minutes ago, Reltih said: Wow look it's this thread again, and people STILL don't get that BoE = Gold = same value for everyone. Yep, some people are just entertainingly dumb, and I thought WoW had a high average player age... Edited February 16, 2017 by Oakenlix 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garun 9 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 BoE needers cause people to be less likely to pug due to the chance of losing a BiS BoE epic taken from you by some greedy little piece of crap. It might not be technically ninja looting, but it goes against the common belief of need before greed. The core concept behind items is that they are equipped, not to exchange for god. The reason world drop epics are BoE is because any of them can drop even during solo play, so if you get one not for your class when questing/farming, you can trade it to someone that could actually use it. People buy those BoEs because it's worth more to then than the gold cost or they wouldn't buy it. Should MC pugs have the BoE tier pieces on open roll for all 40 people instead of the appropriate classes? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justme 9 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Feeling entitled to a random BOE drop just because it's an upgrade to you is greedy. I can use that BOE to get BIS uprade myself. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlord 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 rolling on an item to sell it for a certain amout (for an upgrade) = greed rolling on an item to not having to spend a certain amount (for an upgrade) = greed its not like class X cant buy the boe they need, and didnt get, from the ah 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rapteg 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 2 часа назад, zmandude24 сказал: BoE needers cause people to be less likely to pug due to the chance of losing a BiS BoE epic taken from you by some greedy little piece of crap. It might not be technically ninja looting, but it goes against the common belief of need before greed. The core concept behind items is that they are equipped, not to exchange for god. The reason world drop epics are BoE is because any of them can drop even during solo play, so if you get one not for your class when questing/farming, you can trade it to someone that could actually use it. People buy those BoEs because it's worth more to then than the gold cost or they wouldn't buy it. Should MC pugs have the BoE tier pieces on open roll for all 40 people instead of the appropriate classes? You can get your "BiS BoE" item from AH, don't be a greedy asshole. There is no such a thing as "farming BoEs" until late wotlk, they are unreliable drops and their value is equal for everyone - it's basically a token for a BoE item for your class. And you are right, they are BoE so they can be traded - this warrior in question won the roll. OP wants this item for free after losing the roll. See the problem? He didn't said "hey dude will buy it for 50g", he said "equip it", and then demanded this item handled to him for no reason Edited February 16, 2017 by Rapteg 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluntski 13 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) It's called being humble and not an asshole. Hard for you it seems. Edited February 16, 2017 by Bluntski 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garun 9 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rapteg said: You can get your "BiS BoE" item from AH, don't be a greedy asshole You can also get that gold from farming, so "don't be a greedy asshole." 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Hmm, it seems the percentage of sane people here isn't that small, after all. 7 minutes ago, Bluntski said: It's called being humble and not an asshole. Hard for you it seems. Hey, why don't you be a "humble" guy and send me a hundred gold then? 3 minutes ago, zmandude24 said: You can also get that gold from farming, so "don't be a greedy asshole." He isn't. He is not the one demanding to get a drop for free. He advocates for free fair rolls for BoEs. You missed the point. Edited February 16, 2017 by Oakenlix 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rapteg 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 11 минуту назад, Bluntski сказал: It's called being humble and not an asshole. Hard for you it seems. So why won't OP be humble and not an asshole and let the guy who won the loot to have the loot he won? Edited February 16, 2017 by Rapteg 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikkisix 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Oakenlix just has a different mindset from us that's all. All in all Most will see this as ninjaing, no mater what we say how we say it, that is his answer. We may not agree or disagree with it but, it is what it is. Yes this was cleary ninjaing, becuase Personal greed help's no one but oneself, BOES. EVEN when everyone needs rolls on them, in dungi's we always and i mean ALWAYS make sure whoever needs it gets it. For atleast as a tank, for some one to need on a BOE tank item that's say BIS (I think it was stockade shoulderpads or something which is BIS till Chrom in T2,) for there own greed is. by all means laughable, and unheard of. The fact that some one would screw, one of the most tedious and annoying roles / classes in the game surely us tanks are machonist no? being screwed by easyist farm class (Mage) is almost pure maddness, but again. Diffferent strokes different mindsets. It could be a generation gap? Who know's it's just that in Retail vanilla such greed was unheard of. Unless they where a pure blood troll / greifer etc. I mean this sucks, but atleast it wasn't like your BIS till end game, some people get hurt by this real hard. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fapmonsoon 14 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Can we just get Oak banned? at least from the forums? He cries about how his greed outweighs peoples need on every forum about ninjas. Now he' saying all greens should be needed too because "His need to sell it for gold vs your need to equip". He at least had some what of a understandable point when he was defending beermage with "its epic, everyone should need" although I do not agree with it, I could see how he justified it. But now everything is fair game for his greed. Fuck this guy. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 Just now, The Fapmonsoon said: Can we just get Oak banned? at least from the forums? He cries about how his greed outweighs peoples need The fact that I've never even said anything like that just goes to show how retarded you are. Smh. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Fapmonsoon 14 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 No because you justify it as its not greed, you needed gold. Its greed prick. Get over it. Stop pushing your "I need gold" bullshit, we all need gold. Sorry your snowflake retardism is showing through hardcare. I wish you were on my server, I would enjoy camping your fucking ass for days. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlord 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, rikkisix said: surely us tanks are machonist no? being screwed by easyist farm class (Mage) is almost pure maddness, so you were someone who didnt get their shoulders bc someone else won them fair and square.. so its something personal for you, explains alot anyway, you choose that class fully knowing what it is capable of and what role you will going to play you made the decision so deal with it, personal responsibility why should you be entlitled to it, just bc you dont want to farm for the money as it wil takes longer bc of the decision you made at class creation? you are just as greedy demanding for it so you dont have to waste your money on the ah as the one who will sell it for money 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlord 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fapmonsoon said: No because you justify it as its not greed, you needed gold. Its greed prick. Get over it. Stop pushing your "I need gold" bullshit, we all need gold. Sorry your snowflake retardism is showing through hardcare. I wish you were on my server, I would enjoy camping your fucking ass for days. it is the other way around its not about how he needed the gold its about how both of them are greed, doesnt matter if one class in grp can directly waer it or not 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites