A Frank Address And Statement on Recent Events and Revelations

[Knetik 2]

Apparently Alexensual hasn't refunded the money he misled his viewers into donating to Elysium. I really hope his viewers go legal on him. 

In the past I enjoyed watching Alexensual's content, but issuing chargebacks on donations from his viewers to a non-profit project is just WAY too far. 

[Evir 2]

Just now, Knetik said:

Elysium is getting some input from someone people don't agree with....moving on..

Kenetik I know you remember PlayTBC, I saw you on the forums there, Radeghost was the guy they fired for the lauch live stream and his shady past, and these guys hired him, you agree with that?

[Knetik 2]

1 minute ago, Evir said:

Kenetik I know you remember PlayTBC, I saw you on the forums there, Radeghost was the guy they fired for the lauch live stream and his shady past, and these guys hired him, you agree with that?

Radeghost was a volunteer helping out that people didn't agree with. Heck, I have a shady past. I put myself through 4 yrs of university botting with glider and honorbuddy in retail. I sold hundreds of accounts and an uncountable amount of gold. This doesn't change my desire to see the private server community grow and thrive. Many of the guild leader in Anathema were a part of this "black market" but they are still pushing to see the best on these servers and even giving their time to build communities.

The main issue with PlayTBC was the lead never intended on releasing content and was coning his staff and playerbase and left with the money.

[Antipatra 0]

5 hours ago, Shenna said:

We are not stupid. We know that several of these individuals have pasts in which they have done things that are disagreeable to the community. However, NONE of us are spotless, not even you who are reading this.

Wow. So we're to blame for your problems?

[Guryev 1]

its really surprising the players with upwards of over 100 days or more /played across multiple characters who support this decision, have been caught hacking, have been participating in grey area griefing, and are now involved in chinese RMT circles all because they got bored of the BWL patch and waiting for AQ release

there are countless servers that arent worth playing on or paying attention to and its not because players cut the administration some slack. people are short sighted as fuck

[Evir 2]

2 minutes ago, Knetik said:

Radeghost was a volunteer helping out that people didn't agree with. Heck, I have a shady past. I put myself through 4 yrs of university botting with glider and honorbuddy in retail. I sold hundreds of accounts and an uncountable amount of gold. This doesn't change my desire to see the private server community grow and thrive. Many of the guild leader in Anathema were a part of this "black market" but they are still pushing to see the best on these servers and even giving their time to build communities.

The main issue with PlayTBC was the lead never intended on releasing content and was coning his staff and playerbase and left with the money.

Tell us more about how these guilds participate in the black market, assuming real life transactions, and how they are good for the community. Please.

[Evir 2]

1 minute ago, Scrub said:

I'm not salty no since it seems like people making this bigger than it is. Take of your feodora and join AB weekend instead of agreeing with the little weasel Alexsensual. 

So, you support gold selling, botting, account selling, and everything else? Those are deal breakers for many players. It is a big deal you are trying to say it isn't, maybe it isn't to YOU, however most of the community hates this stuff and wants to see a more legit server run off of donations, they were doing fine without the nonsense they are supporting right now, but it seems they are now condoning the actions of known bad actors.  It was a terrible idea.

[Scrub 1]

1 minute ago, Evir said:

So, you support gold selling, botting, account selling, and everything else? Those are deal breakers for many players. It is a big deal you are trying to say it isn't, maybe it isn't to YOU, however most of the community hates this stuff and wants to see a more legit server run off of donations, they were doing fine without the nonsense they are supporting right now, but it seems they are now condoning the actions of known bad actors.  It was a terrible idea.

No, I don't support any of those things. Not sure how you made all that from what I wrote. 

[Evir 2]

Just now, Scrub said:

No, I don't support any of those things. Not sure how you made all that from what I wrote. 

That is the issue at hand that you are hand waving away as if it isn't a big deal. That is how I got all that from what you wrote. That is what the drama is about.

[Scrub 1]

Just now, Evir said:

That is the issue at hand that you are hand waving away as if it isn't a big deal. That is how I got all that from what you wrote. That is what the drama is about.

So the big deal is that they hired 2 guys that got busted for doing bad shit. And now those 2 are gone? So what's the problem now?

[Evir 2]

6 minutes ago, Scrub said:

So the big deal is that they hired 2 guys that got busted for doing bad shit. And now those 2 are gone? So what's the problem now?

They were known before hand to have these issues, they are well known around the private server community for doing these things, and yet they hired them anyway, then when people objected to them being hired, they acted like it wasn't a big deal, then blamed the people that objected for stirring up drama. They could have easily avoided this by not hiring well known bad actors that have tried to undermine the servers for their financial benefit.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Evir

[Knetik 2]

Hired? They were brought on the team to offer advice. Hired implies that they are getting wages for their work. If they are, we have a whole other issue at hand.

[Hunter4life 0]

The Alexguy can leave us. He wont be missed. 

 

Tried to watch his vidz a while back. But he talks about nothing at all. Just "guys", "guys", "guys".

 

Living in hos parents basement. Stealing donations.

[Knetik 2]

Just now, Hunter4life said:

The Alexguy can leave us. He wont be missed. 

 

Tried to watch his vidz a while back. But he talks about nothing at all. Just "guys", "guys", "guys".

 

Living in hos parents basement. Stealing donations.

Hahaha...its sad...I read "guys" in his voice over and over....you pretty much nailed it.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

I'm sorry you and your staff had to suffer through such drama bullshit and its effects on your staff and server capabilities. It was all unwarranted.

[Geston 15]

So Alex took back the money and is offering a refund to anyone who donated if they ask...

Hmm thats odd because Paypal history makes it so you can just easily refund anything donated to you. Its almost like hes doing his best to save face AND keep as much $$$ as he can.

[Evir 2]

3 minutes ago, Geston said:

So Alex took back the money and is offering a refund to anyone who donated if they ask...

Hmm thats odd because Paypal history makes it so you can just easily refund anything donated to you. Its almost like hes doing his best to save face AND keep as much $$$ as he can.

Not everyone will want their money back, he advertised that he was only donating 50-75% of the money, depending on the amount he raised, on the stream where he collected the money, people knew what they were getting into.
Facts matter.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Evir

[potatocurry 0]

you said the D word, you gotta expect to be as cancer highschool-tier as they currently are

i'm a literal nobody but for what it's worth my friends and i think the elysium team is handling it very well. 

also miss me with that 'educate yourself' bullshit thanks

[potatocurry 0]

8 minutes ago, Wearfear said:

Heads up, they aren't handling it very well ^^, not even well at all.
This is simply a way to shoot at a guy who doesn't deserve this huge witch hunt as well, the post makes it sound a lot worse than it actually is (Read it again).
And by that they achieve only by the "UGHH HE REFUNDED 1000$" to move the witch hunt away from their catastrophe of a situation. 

Educate yourself.

i'm on break and this gave me a giggle so let's have a little chat fuckboi

just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they don't know how to read or they clearly don't have the massive cranial capacity that you clearly have. being the sparkling fucking genius that you obviously are i'm sure you understand that resorting to that shit "read it again" and "educate yourself" tactics are a sign that you're a little too emotionally invested in something that you have little to no control over.  or, GASP, that you're using several fucking fallacies in every single comment you've made? perish the thought eh?

 

in closing, nobody gives a shit what you're currently salty about, they just want to play some vanilla wow.

Edited February 17, 2017 by potatocurry

[Gehere 8]

6 weeks ago, on January 7th, Elysium opened a 4th. server, to meet the demand that were at hand.  They simply needed more room for the immense community, wanting to play on their server(s).  There were over 30.000 people, curious about this project.

Look at where things are today.  We're not exactly displaying the same numbers now.  A lot has happened since.

You can't blame everything on @Alexensual.  That simply isn't fair.

He, like many others, have seen the events, being presented to us, week after week after week.   He has heard the same excuses, we have.   Read the same words.

Now - he is a "public" figure.  He is in a position to affect people.  And he has.  No question about that.   But so has many other people, posting stuff on the internet.  Be it here.  On other boards.  Or even on Reddit.

What I feel is happening here, is him being made a scapegoat.   Because he has/had the nerve to question this vocally.  To raise a genuine concern, that actually holds quite a bit of truth.  Because of this - you are ready to burn him, like a witch?

"Let he who is innocent, cast the first stone.".

It is quite easy for Elysium to point fingers.  But when you point at someone, don't forget - three fingers point back at yourself.

Nothing is really a surprise any more, when people bring their findings to the table.   We've pretty much seen so many different issues/events here, that we're no longer truly shocked, when presented with the "latest news".

"I wonder what will happen tomorrow" - is often my last thought, when closing the door to my office.

I don't know you, @Alexensual - and you don't know me.    But I'm sorry.  This isn't fair.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Gehere

[Robroy 2]

Apparently people seriously believe that people with the bad background that were brought in as advisors would be left to access what they want without checks?

Get real people.

Remember the idiot you tuber wanted to shut down the original Nost realms. Nothing he says can be trusted.

He is just making money out of the gullible.

[potatocurry 0]

1 minute ago, Robroy said:

Apparently people seriously believe that people with the bad background that were brought in as advisors would be left to access what they want without checks?

Get real people.

Remember the idiot you tuber wanted to shut down the original Nost realms. Nothing he says can be trusted.

He is just making money out of the gullible.

*foghorn*

"EDUCATE YOURSELF"

Edited February 17, 2017 by potatocurry

[Faid 0]

6 hours ago, Nymis said:

I love the Elysium staff and everything they have done and continue to do for us. However, I believe this issue could've been avoided if someone would've just told us from the start that these people were working with you and under what conditions they were doing so. 

Leaving matters like these for the community to uncover WILL degenerate into what we have now. Even if their roles are not crucial, even with the balance of powers and everything you've put in place to secure the server, people need to hear these things from you and not attention seeking toxic players with no real regard or love for the community. 

THIS!

Had you informed the community ahead-of-time, you could've mitigated this issue. By not divulging this to the community, this is what happened, ppl WILL find out especially ppl who have dodgy pasts w/other classic servers.

Also, why shoot the messenger in this equation?

[Xemni 0]

[Ellipsea 36]

The issue here isn't/wasn't Alex's opinion of the server, the issue is he put us all in a tight spot because he removed funding from the servers.  Staff had been free with information and their time for him, in a mutually beneficial arrangement.  He got more viewers because of this, and Elysium, as a side benefit, got more money for the servers.

 

Here's the thing, that money wasn't donated to Alex for his OPINION of the servers, it was donated FOR the servers.  I'm sure it was not implicit in the donation that the funding would be removed if Alex changed his mind about Elysium.  He took it upon himself to act as judge and jury.  In the end, Elysium was able to recoup funding from us directly.

 

Alex wasn't the messenger, that info was already out there.  He is certainly entitled to his opinion of that information, I don't believe he is singly entitled to endanger our servers.