A Frank Address And Statement on Recent Events and Revelations

[Egregious 1]

People of limited intelligence are amusing. 

[Mecher 0]

"We know that several of these individuals have pasts in which they have done things that are disagreeable to the community. "

it is an important character trait to let bygones be bygones and ignore the fact that the best indicators of future actions are past actions

i for one forgive radeghost and make a testiment to his fantastic character by buying his powerleveling service for real money offered literally less than 2 months ago

what a fucking joke, this place is a hugbox

Edited February 17, 2017 by Mecher

[Ickus 40]

Keep chugging guys. It's not your fault CF has some scumbags on their team. Personally I'd like to see you work with crogge and legacy craft and just say to hell with CF. Zzuk=human trash

[Xemni 0]

The whole emulation community is guilty of "shady" practices. Pretending that developers are pure hearted saints is actually laughable. Lets not forget that Private Servers were developed for the soul purpose of avoiding paying for the retail version of this game, or simply play content blizzard hasn't put out. You didn't go to a vanilla private server, when vanilla retail was still a thing to "relive the golden days". You did it because you didn't want to pay for your sub. Hell the very first WoW server was up in 2003, so people could play the WoW Alpha before blizzard could even release their product. 

Lets not pretend that server emulation is the pinnacle of morality. You hire hackers to fix hacks, you hire botters to fix bots. Its not rocket science. Software developers have been doing this for ages. AT&T Even holds a hacking festival every year, where they invite hackers to show off there stuff, so they can develop a more secure network for them selves. You can literally Google how many hackers were caught doing what they were doing being picked up by companies to help secure their websites / software. 

I'm not saying by any means that this runs no risk to blow up in the devs faces, but you can either take a risk to prevent this kind of thing from even happening on this server, or you can not take the risk, and change nothing. I'd rather see what comes of this, and hope they develop security measures strong enough to prevent botting, hacking, and exploiting, rather than them do nothing, and have something pop down the road that destroys the economy.

Life is a gamble. If you're unwilling to get up and take a risk, then you'll find you'll only go so far. I'd stop using Cucksensual as your morale compass, and start really thinking outside the box. If you're unhappy with the way they decided to tackle the issues at hand, maybe suggest a better method to achieve what it is they're trying to do, without enlisting the aid of these individuals?

I see A LOT of complaining, but I don't exactly see anyone offering up a solution. 

[Mecher 0]

11 minutes ago, Xemni said:

The whole emulation community is guilty of "shady" practices. Pretending that developers are pure hearted saints is actually laughable. Lets not forget that Private Servers were developed for the soul purpose of avoiding paying for the retail version of this game, or simply play content blizzard hasn't put out. You didn't go to a vanilla private server, when vanilla retail was still a thing to "relive the golden days". You did it because you didn't want to pay for your sub. Hell the very first WoW server was up in 2003, so people could play the WoW Alpha before blizzard could even release their product. 

Lets not pretend that server emulation is the pinnacle of morality. You hire hackers to fix hacks, you hire botters to fix bots. Its not rocket science. Software developers have been doing this for ages. AT&T Even holds a hacking festival every year, where they invite hackers to show off there stuff, so they can develop a more secure network for them selves. You can literally Google how many hackers were caught doing what they were doing being picked up by companies to help secure their websites / software. 

I'm not saying by any means that this runs no risk to blow up in the devs faces, but you can either take a risk to prevent this kind of thing from even happening on this server, or you can not take the risk, and change nothing. I'd rather see what comes of this, and hope they develop security measures strong enough to prevent botting, hacking, and exploiting, rather than them do nothing, and have something pop down the road that destroys the economy.

Life is a gamble. If you're unwilling to get up and take a risk, then you'll find you'll only go so far. I'd stop using Cucksensual as your morale compass, and start really thinking outside the box. If you're unhappy with the way they decided to tackle the issues at hand, maybe suggest a better method to achieve what it is they're trying to do, without enlisting the aid of these individuals?

I see A LOT of complaining, but I don't exactly see anyone offering up a solution. 

a solution was already named when they were removed from the team

a further future solution to this problem is to not publicly hire entirely disingenuous people like radeghost that was the driving member behind the scam of a server named playtbc, in case you had forgotten. you know, the server that was accepting donations for custom mounts before the server released, where the actual "release" was a low quality twitch stream where radeghost posted the realmlist in a notepad to a stock mangos server that crashed after 5 seconds and then was never heard of again

 

but the past is in the past right lol there's no alterior motive here

[Xemni 0]

4 hours ago, Shenna said:

 Radeghost joined Crestfall as a forum moderator only, and had no affiliation with the Elysium project.

Sounds like he's in a great position to cause some damage.

 

 

 

 

Kappa

[Mecher 0]

1 minute ago, Xemni said:

Sounds like he's in a great position to cause some damage.

 

 

 

 

Kappa

anywhere closer to the staff and the people associated with this server is too close for that degenerate

[Elizondo 0]

2 minutes ago, Wearfear said:

Hey lets all start another witch hunt on a already depressed guy cause apparently Elysium doesn't give a fuck about sending a whole community in his face, this is so fucking unprofessional it sickens me, they shouldn't call him out at all.

No i don't agree with Alex, but Elysium should act more professional on this part.

why? are they a company? trained professionals? NO. They are fucking dudes who do this shit in their free time. 

If Alexbastard tries to fuck with them, they gonna fuck back. easy.

[Xemni 0]

Pity for Alex? No. If he can't take a bit of shit on his face, would probably help if he didn't start flinging it like the monkey he is. 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Xemni

[Svetozar 0]

i want to see alex on a stake, who's with me

[AzAMOuS 2]

5 minutes ago, Wearfear said:

Hey lets all start another witch hunt on a already depressed guy cause apparently Elysium doesn't give a fuck about sending a whole community in his face, this is so fucking unprofessional it sickens me, they shouldn't call him out at all.

No i don't agree with Alex, but Elysium should act more professional on this part.

"An already depressed guy" -- seriously dude? Are you trying to seek sympathy here?

He went full scumbag, and there's repercussions for childish fit throwing, simple as.

[Xemni 0]

mfw charging back money that was given to him under the guise it was GOING TO THE SERVER isn't considered scummy. 

 

:^)

[Mecher 0]

can we rename this thread to Elysium Shills vs. Alencucks?

[Xemni 0]

If he can't take a bit of flak, he shouldn't be giving it. Simple as that. Maybe when he's done listening to a few albums of Jimmy eat world, and emoing out, he'll realize that he can't get away with smearing other people unscathed and he'll stop being a cuck. 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Xemni

[Stondus 1]

4 minutes ago, Mecher said:

mfw voicing genuine concerns in a calm manner is now going full scumbag

 

Genuine concerns? Checked - Confirmed - Agreed.

..In a calm manner - Checked - lolled-as-hell-for-this-one - Busted.

 

Yes, Shit has hit the fan peeps. But if Shenna's post (waiting for Alex's reply..) is correct, It's totally Alexensual's fault. If Elysium staff has tried to chat/reason with Alex-not-so-sensual and his reply has been just trollollollol - like, then he really deserves all shit that's dropping on him.

[Lorilay 12]

On every other server, charging back donations is grounds for a permanent ban across all accounts. Grow some balls and ban him and his drama.

[Xemni 0]

Meanwhile his community is still shit smearing Legacy Network :^)

The dude has influence, and he used it poorly. Now he's paying for it. Every action has a consequence. He's lucky it isn't worse. Shenna didn't condemn him, his actions did. I don't hate Alex, because Shenna made this post, I hate Alex, because he stirs up drama, everywhere he goes, and lo and behold, he's done it again. 

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Xemni

[Mecher 0]

4 minutes ago, Stondus said:

Genuine concerns? Checked - Confirmed - Agreed.

..In a calm manner - Checked - lolled-as-hell-for-this-one - Busted.

 

Yes, Shit has hit the fan peeps. But if Shenna's post (waiting for Alex's reply..) is correct, It's totally Alexensual's fault. If Elysium staff has tried to chat/reason with Alex-not-so-sensual and his reply has been just trollollollol - like, then he really deserves all shit that's dropping on him.

did you even watch the video that is inciting half this drama?

[Xemni 0]

Just now, Wearfear said:

No Shenna didn't condemn him, but he made it twice as bad.

For reiterating public knowledge? Lol. 

Alex himself already tweeted what he's doing, and already made the video voicing his opinion. Shenna simply reiterated what he did. The only addition made in Shennas post, was him declining to hear Elysium out. So I doubt it made it twice as bad, this shit storm was already raging before this post was made. 

[Stondus 1]

Just now, Mecher said:

did you even watch the video that is inciting half this drama?

Oh, I did. That's what I mean with the genuine concerns. What I mean with the "Calm manner", is the REAL shitstorm that hit after his "I-play-GOD-and-refund-the-money-I-collected" - post.

What people seem to forget, is he would NEVER have collected THAT amount of money without his promise to donate Elysium. First he gains personal profit (that 20%) way more then he normally does by promising donation, then he refunds, and *probably* gets even more money by doing so, 'cause many many ppl think that "Well, it's just 5 bucks, doesn't matter that much".

 

That sounds "Calm manner" to anyone?

[Barrek 0]

Ignorance is bliss.

Thanks for your hard work guys!

[Xemni 0]

I don't follow Alex either, but I sure heard it from friends and other shit posters. I honestly feel its better to hear it how it is from Shenna, than from some random forum troll. At least when its coming from Shenna there is no speculation. 

[Scrub 1]

Wonder what will happend with the money ppl donated to alex that he draw back? Will that little weasel keep it for himself?

[Xemni 0]

He's offered to refund it to the people who donated. They just need to dig up transaction ID's and hit him up.

Edited February 17, 2017 by Xemni

[Evir 2]

One of the guys, Radeghost, literally was selling power leveling and gold a month ago for this server, under the same name, was affiliated with playTBC, he was the guy that PlayTBC fired for doing that live stream for their launch and doing shady practices, and yet you hire him under the same name, then when people object, you blame the people that object?

People knew he had a shady past then, when playTBC launched, and yet you went on to hire Radeghost anyway?

Are you serious right now?!

Edited February 17, 2017 by Evir